Karl Mildenberger ~ 'I Had The Formula To Beat Cassius Clay'

[Bill Paxtom]

its really amazing how you got access to both schmeling and Louis's scorecards. Were they actually judges or just sitting at ringside?

Both Champion's were sitting next to each other at Ringside, at the front-left and near
Karl Mildenberger's corner.

Joe Louis scored Round 1 for the Champion, and Round 2 for Karl Mildenberger.

Max Schmeling scored round 1 'Even', and Round 2 for Karl Mildenberger.

Both later stated, that Cassius looked 'completely puzzled' by the southpaw-stance and
squared-up style of the Challenger.

Oddly, Referee - Teddy Waltham scored Round 2 'Even'.

Judges > Nat Fleisher {United States} and Felix Ohlert {Germany} 'properly' scored Round 2 for Karl Mildenberger.

[Bill Paxtom]

Before the Round

Television Announcer - Howard Cosell made the statement, that he looked at the Sports
Reporters Scorecards at Ringside.

He stated that the Champion won Round 1, and that Round 2 was very close. But it looks
like many of the Journalists also scored the 2nd-Round for the Champion, though it was
close and could have been called 'Even'.

~ Round 3 ~

0:02 > Both meet at Center-Ring quickly.
0:04 > Cassius sends out a left-jab, and immediately goes to circling to his right
0:17 > Cassius has been 'flicking' out left-jabs, but they all are missing.
0:25 > Mildenberger is stalking.

0:27 > Cassius backs up to the back-right Corner.
0:29 > Mildenberger scores with a quick 'right-right-left' to the face.
0:30 > Mildenberger catches the Champion with a 'jarring' left-uppercut to the chin.
0:31 > Cassius is back-pedaling along the right-side Ropes.

0:32 > Cassius definitely hurt, as he backs up to the front-center Ring area.
0:34 > Cassius sends out a 'lazy' left-right as Mildenberger is moving in.
0:38 > Cassius sends out 'poking' left-jabs.
0:39 > Cassius moves to the left-side Ring area.

0:42 > Cassius is short with a left-hand, and circles 180* to the right-side Ring area.
0:44 > Mildenberger is short with a 'double' right-hand.
0:45 > Mildenberger scores with a solid right-hand to the Champion's face.
0:47 > Mildenberger is now chasing Cassius around the Ring.

0:49 > Mildenberger lands with a 'right-left' to the chin.
0:50 > Cassius moves to the front Ropes.
1:03 > The fighters move out to Center-Ring.
1:04 > Cassius flicks out a left-jab.

1:05 > Mildenberger lands a stiff right-hand to the body.
1:09 > Cassius is short with a right-hand lead.
1:10 > Cassius is short with left-jabs.
1:12 > Cassius moves to the back Ring area.

1:14 > Mildenberger scores with a straight left-hand lead as Cassius goes into the back Ropes.
1:16 > Cassis scores with a good 'chopping' right-hand counter to the head.
1:17 > Cassius circles 180* to Center-Ring.
1:19 > Cassius is sending out left-jabs.

1:21 > Mildenberger is bobbing-and-weaving, and doing a good job of avoiding the jabs.
1:27 > Both are flicking out measuring jabs.
1:38 > Both are now feinting each other, and not punching.
1:43 > Mildenberger scores with '5' straight right-jabs to the Champion's face.

1:47 > The Waldstadion Stadium erupts with 'roars'.
1:48 > Mildenberger lands with a straight right-hand, forcing the Champion to lean back.
1:50 > Cassius misses with a counter 'left-right'.
1:55 > Cassius scores with a slapping left-hook {open glove}.

1:56 > Cassius drops his hands low.
1:57 > Mildenberger scores with a 'hard' straight left-hand to the Champion's face.
1:58 > The Waldstadion Stadium 'erupts' again.
1:58 > Cassius bends low, and backs into the back-right Corner.

1:59 > Cassius puts his hands up near his head, and is 'hurt'.
2:00 > Mildenberger moves in close, and drives '4' hard left-uppercuts into the Champion's chin.
2:02 > Cassius back-pedals fast, and backs out to Center-Ring.
2:02 > Mildenberger steps forward, and scores with a 'right-left'.

2:03 > Cassius counters with a good right-hand to the jaw.
2:04 > Cassius moves to the front Ring area near the Ropes.
2:05 > Cassius fires out a left-hook to the head as Mildenberger is moving in.
2:05 > Mildenberger 'slips', and almost falls down.

2:06 > Mildenberger counters with a right-hook and Cassius slides to his left and away from the Ropes.
2:07 > Cassius counters with a left-hook, and backs away.
2:07 > Mildenberger is still pursuing.
2:08 > Cassius tries a 'big' right-hand, but misses, as Mildenberger rolls away from the punch.

2:10 > Mildenberger scores with a light 'right-right-left'.
2:16 > Mildenberger moves in close.
2:18 > Cassius drapes his left-arm over Mildenberger's neck.
2:22 > Cassius is 'wild' with a 'left-right-left-right'.

2:27 > Mildenberger is moving side-to-side, while bobbing.
2:32 > Mildenberger is now moving backwards and away from any action.
2:35 > Cassius lands with a 'glancing' right-hand lead.
2:38 > Cassius is short with a right-hand.

2:40 > Mildenberger is looking like he is resting, and protecting his earlier Round dominance.
2:45 > Mildenberer moves to the left-side Ropes.
2:46 > Cassius moves in, and lands with '2' light left-jabs.
2:53 > Mildenberger is smartly moving, protecting his Round lead.
2:56 > Cassius is looking to fire a right-hand, but the opening does not come.

3:00 > Bell

Round 3 > Karl Mildenberger

Referee - Teddy Waltham scored Round 3 for Karl Mildenberger.

Announcer - Howard Cosell scored the Round 'Even', obviously showing bias and 'brown nosing'
for the Champion.

'Stars and Stripes' called the Round 'Even'.

Howard Cosell also made the statement that Joe Louis also scored the Round 'Even'. Which the
'Brown Bomber' did not. Joe Louis scored Round 3 for Karl Mildenberger, as did Max Schmeling.

[Bill Paxtom]

During Round 3

Howard Cosell, mentioned that he had scored the first 2-Rounds for Cassius Clay, but
had the 2nd Round very close.

Howard Cosell >
"Cassius told me that he was going to start very fast, and possibly take the Challenger
out of here right away. But, Cassius did not come out as fast as he had predicted."

'Mildenberger is presenting all sorts of problems for Cassius. He's making Cassius miss.
That left-handed stance is really causing a problem."

Howard did mention that Mildenberger 'hurt' the Champion on '2' separate occasions
in Round 3.
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Howard did ask Joe Louis on what he thought:

Joe Louis >
"Mildenberger is fighting better than I expected. He's taking it to Clay. He fought well in
Round 1, and he won Round 2."

Howard Cosell >
"It's because of his left-handed stance Joe."

Joe Louis >
"No, not really Howard. Mildenberger is not fighting like a true southpaw. He's squared up
Howard, so he's really fighting in-between left-handed and right-handed."

Howard Cosell >
"But he's leading with right-jabs, just like a southpaw."

Joe Louis >
"He is not afraid, and is willing to trade. I'm impressed. He's landed a few good punches into
Clay's face. But, he has no power at all. He's pushing his punches, but they're getting there."

Howard Cosell >
"But he's {Mildenberger} wide open for the right-hand, and he has been caught by a few."

Joe Louis >
"He's doing right by himself, as he is winning the Round in my view."

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Round 4 ~

0:02 > Both meet at Center-Ring.
0:04 > Each circle each other 180*.
0:06 > Cassius then circles 360* to his right.
0:07 > Mildenberger is pressing steadily.

0:12 > Mildenberger scores with a 'triple' right-jab.
0:14 > Mildenberger follows up with a stiff straight right-hand to the Champion's face.
0:17 > Cassius is at the back Ring area, and is still circling.
0:20 > Cassius moves to the front-left Corner area.

0:22 > Mildenberger steps in, and lands a solid left-hand into the Champion's head.
0:23 > The Waldstadion fans erupt with roars.
0:31 > Cassius is back to circling-and-dancing to his right.
0:33 > Cassius is showing 'respect'.

0:35 > Cassius lands a good hard left-jab to Mildenberger's right-eye.
0:39 > Mildenberger counters with double right-jab to the mid-section.
0:40 > Mildenberger lands a right-hand to the body.
0:42 > Mildenberger 'feints' with a right-hand, then lands a solid straight-left into the Champion's face.

0:43 > More loud roars from the Waldstadion fans.
0:44 > Cassius moves to the left-side of the Ring while now circling to his left.
0:45 > Mildenberger steps in,and lands a solid straight left to the Champion's face.
0:46 > Mildenberger follows up with a 'jarring' left-uppercut to the chin while in-close.

0:46 > The Waldstadion fans roar.
0:47 > Cassius reels backwards towards the back-right Corner.
0:47 > Cassius is definitely 'shaken'.
0:48 > Cassius back-pedals into the back-right Corner.

0:50 > Mildenberger fires in a fast 'triple' right-jab, and straight left-hand to the Champion's face.
0:53 > Cassius back-pedals out, and moves across the Ring backwards to the front Ropes.
0:55 > Cassius fires out a left-jab, and scores.
0:58 > Cassius fires, but misses with a hard 'left-right' as Mildenberger ducks low.

1:02 > Cassius comes back with another 'double' left-jab, but again misses.
1:10 > Now it's Mildenberger who goes to circling-and-moving.
1:16 > Both fighters move to Center-Ring.
1:17 > Mildenberger is smartly 'bobbing-and-weaving'.

1:20 > Mildenberger lunges forwards, and scores with an awkward 'double' right-hand to the head.
1:22 > Both exchange hard punches, Cassius with a right-lead, and Mildenberger with a straight-left.
1:23 > Mildenberger gets the better of the exchange, as Cassius backs away to his left.
1:26 > Cassius moves to the left-side Ring area, and scores with '2' poking left-jabs to the face.

1:30 > Mildenberger goes back to circling.
1:32 > Mildenberger lands with a 'light' right-jab.
1:34 > Cassius lands with a 'grazing' right-hand to the head.
1:40 > Mildenberger starts to press forward, to put the pressure on the Champion.

1:43 > Cassius catches Mildenberger coming in with a 'light' left-right to the face.
1:46 > Mildenberger goes back to 'bobbing-and-weaving'.
1:51 > Mildenberg scores with '2' right-jabs to the face.
1:52 > Both fighters are now at Center-Ring.

1:53 > Cassius goes back to dancing on his toes.
1:57 > Cassius lands with several left-jabs to the face.
2:01 > Cassius fires out with '5' fast left-jabs, but only '1' lands.
2:03 > Mldenberger sticks in a 'stiff' right-hand into the Champion's belly.

2:04 > Cassius goes back to circling to his left.
2:05 > Cassius is now at the back Ring area.
2:06 > Mildenberger steps in, and lands a big sweeping right-hook into the Champion's face.
2:07 > Mildenberger follows with a 'jarring' left-hand to the chin.

2:07 > The Waldstadion fans erupt with 'roars'.
2:08 > Cassius reels backwards to the back right Corner.
2:09 > The noise in the Waldstadion Stadium is 'deafening'.
2:10 > Mildenberger moves in.

2:10 > Cassius fires a quick right-hand lead to the head, to catch Mildenberger coming in.
2:11 > Mildenberger counters the Champion, by firing with a straight left-hand to the face.
2:12 > Cassius holds Mildenberger by the neck.
2:14 > Cassius moves out to Center-Ring.

2:17 > Cassius 'misses' with a big right-hook.
2:20 > Mildenberger goes back to 'dancing', and moves to the back-center Ropes.
2:22 > Each score with 'jabs' to each other's mid-section.
2:23 > Cassius moves to the left-side Ring area.

2:25 > Cassius sends out '3' left-jabs that partially land.
2:27 > Cassius 'misses' with a straight right-hand, as Mildenberger ducks low.
2:28 > Mildenberger scores with fast right-jab to the face.
2:30 > Cassius moves to the back Ring area.

2:32 > Mildenberger is 'bobbing-and-weaving' as he tries to move in.
2:35 > Cassius 'misses 'badly' with a right-hook.
2:37 > Cassius moves over to the right-side Ring area.
2:39 > Cassius fires out '4' fast left-jabs, but only '1' lands.

2:41 > Cassius comes back with a 'left-left-right'.
2:42 > Mildenberger counters with a fast left-hand lead to the face of the Champion.
2:43 > The punch sends Cassius off-balance to his left.
2:45 > Cassius lands a good left-jab to the face.

2:46 > Both fighters move to Center-Ring.
2:47 > Cassius starts sending out 'pecking' left-jabs.
2:48 > Mildenberger leans away to avoid the punches.
2:50 > Mildenberger moves backwards to the front-center Ropes.

2:51 > Cassius lands with a glancing right-hand to the Challenger's left-shoulder.
2:54 > Cassius is short with a 'left-right'.
2:57 > Mildenberger dances away to the right-side Ring area.
3:00 > Bell

Round 4 > Is clearly Karl Mildenberger's, based upon effective aggression, as well as
landing the sharper and harder punches.

Joe Louis >
"Karl Mildenberger is putting up a much better fight than anyyone thought. Many
expected him be out of here in the 1st or 2nd Round."

Howard Cosell >
"The Champion won the 1st-Round, and the 2nd-Round was close. But Mildenberger
has done very well in the last 2-Rounds. This is a surprisingly even bout."

Karl Mildenberger was showing signs of slight puffiness under both eyes, but looked
confident.

[Master]

Spoiler alert Ali stops him in the last round.

[Bill Paxtom]

Spoiler alert; Karl Mildenberger was as fast as Cassius Clay.

Former Champion's Scorecards

..................Joe Louis ........... Max Schmeling.......Howard 'The Shill' Cosell..
Round 1 ...... Clay ........................ 'Even' .......................... Clay
Round 2 ...... Mildenberger............ Mildenberger ................ Clay
Round 3 ...... Mildenberger ........... Mildenberger ............... 'Even'
Round 4....... Mildenberger ........... Mildenberger ............... Mildenberger

[Master]

[QUOTE=Bill Paxtom;1308973]

Spoiler alert; Karl Mildenberger was as fast as Cassius Clay.

But not as strong, powerful and great.

[brocktonblockbust]

[QUOTE=Master;1308981][QUOTE=Bill Paxtom;1308973]

Spoiler alert; Karl Mildenberger was as fast as Cassius Clay.

He sang a song of flowers at eight.

Am I seeing things.[QUOTE=Dia Bando]

[Master]

[Bill Paxtom]

What We Have Here

Is a very ordinary southpaw German Heavyweight out-boxing the so-called 'Greatest'.

Karl did have fast-hands, but had absolutely 'Zero' power in his fists.

And he was backing up Cassius in the majority of each session.

Jack Dempsey >

"Ohhh, would I have loved to get that Clay in the Ring. He is no Gene Tunney, not by a
long shot."

"He drops his hands, and has no real strength."

[Master]

What We Have Here

Is a very ordinary southpaw German Heavyweight out-boxing the so-called 'Greatest'.

Karl did have fast-hands, but had absolutely 'Zero' power in his fists.

And he was backing up Cassius in the majority of each session.

Jack Dempsey >

"Ohhh, would I have loved to get that Clay in the Ring. He is no Gene Tunney, not by a
long shot."

"He drops his hands, and has no real strength."

Dempsey would never fight Ali, he was the wrong colour.

[Max Power]

or ridicuous depending on your perspective

Well atleast nobody can accuse old Bill of not being dedicated lol

[Bill Paxtom]

In Between Rounds,

The Waldstadion Stadium fans are chanting > "Milde, Milde, Milde"

~ Round 5 ~

0:02 > Both meet at Center-Ring, and touch gloves.
0:04 > Cassius immediately circles to his right 180*.
0:07 > Both are circling at Center-Ring.
0:17 > Mildenberger is shooting out right-jabs.

0:18 > Cassius is dancing with his hands low.
0:25 > Mildenberger is 'stalking'.
0:27 > Cassius 'misses' with a left-right.
0:32 > Cassius flicks out '3' left-jabs to Mildenberger' right-eye.

0:34 > Cassius flicks out '3' more left-jabs, but they all miss.
0:39 > Cassius pecks away with '4' light left-jabs.
0:41 > Mildenberger now has a 'slight cut' under his right eye.
0:43 > Cassius lands a good left-jab to Mildenberger's left-eye.

0:44 > Mildenberger counters with a hard right-hand to the mid-section.
0:45 > Cassius circles to his right, near the front-right Ring area.
0:49 > Cassius fires in a hard left-jab.
0:53 > Cassius sends in another hard left-jab.

1:00 > Mildenberger is still pursuing.
1:01 > Cassius 'misses' with a double left-jab.
1:03 > Cassius lands with another good left-jab.
1:06 > Cassius 'misses' with a left-jab.

1:08 > Cassius 'misses' again with a left-jab.
1:13 > Mildenberger is moving in-and-out, avoiding the incoming left-jabs.
1:17 > Mildenberg lands a right-jab.
1:19 > Mildenberger lands with a good 'right-right-left'.

1:20 > Cassius is forced to back up to the back-center Ring area.
1:22 > Cassius spins 180* as Mildenberger moves in.
1:24 > Cassius is now at Center-Ring.
1:26 > Mildenberger moves in.

1:27 > Cassius fires in with a 'left-left-right'.
1:27 > Mildenberger ducks to avoid the punches.
1:30 > Both fighters are at Center-Ring.
1:37 > Mildenberger scores with a right-hand to the body.

1:45 > Mldenberger comes up short with '3' right-jabs.
1:50 > Cassius sticks out his left-hand like a 'measuring-pole'.
1:52 > Mildenberger side-steps, and delivers a 'jolting' left-hook into the Champion's chin.
1:54 > Both fighters are at Center-Ring.

1:55 > Mildenberger scores with a right-hand to the mid-section.
1:56 > Cassius counters with a high left-jab.
1:57 > Cassius puts his hands up high for defense.
1:58 > Mildenberger lands with a 'light' right-hand
.
1:59 > Mildenberger steps forward, and lands with a 'sharp' right-left into the Champion's chin.
2:00 > Cassius backs up to the back-right Corner, as Mildenberger moves in.
2:02 > Cassius grabs {clinches} Mildenberger, and then spins 180* to his left, and out of the corner.
2:03 > Mildenberger is now on the back Ropes.

2:14 > Both spend the next 10-Seconds parrying each others jabs at Center-Ring.
2:17 > Cassius lands with a 'light' left-right to the face.
2:19 > Mildenberger slides over to the right-side Ropes, and leans on the Ropes.
2:21 > Both move out to Center-Ring.

2:23 > The fighters 'clinch'.
2:25 > The fighters break clean,
2:27 > Mildenberger scores with a lightning-fast 'right-left to the Champion's face, but the punches have no power.
2:29 > Mildenberger lands with a solid left-hand to the Champion's left-eye.

2:32 > Mildenberger digs in with a lead left-hand to the chest.
2:34 > Mildenberger is now carrying the fight.
2:36 > Mildenberger lands with a 'right-left'.
2:37 > Cassius moves to the left side Ropes.

2:39 > Cassius fires off '2' left-jabs.
2:41 > Cassius moves to his left, to the back Ring area.
2:44 > Cassius 'misses' with '3' left-jabs.
2:49 > Mildenberger is still pressing, and forces Cassius out to Center-Ring.

2:51 > Mildenberger circles to his right 180*, and is now at the left-center Ring area.
2:55 > Cassius puts his hands up high in defense.
2:57 > Mildenberger 'paws' with a high right-jab.
2:58 > Cassius comes over the top with a lightning-quick chopping right-hand to Mildenberger's left temple.

2:59 > Mildenberger goes down to a squat, and puts both hands on the Ring canvas.
3:00 > Mildenberger is up immediately, but it is ruled a 'Flash Knockdown'.
3:00 > 'Bell'

Round 5 > Goes to the Champion.

Karl Mildenberger fought well, and carried the fight to the Champion over the second-half of the Round.

The Challenger held the Champion 'Even' in this Round, until getting caught just before the 'Bell.

That was the difference in the Round.

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Round 6 ~

0:02 > Both meet at Center-Ring.
0:05 > Cassius immediately goes to 'stalking', and is looking to end it.
0:09 > Mildenberger circles to his right and moves to the front-center Ring area.
0:13 > Cassius moves in by flicking in left-jabs.

0:16 > Cassius 'misses' with a big right-hand.
0:22 > Cassius is still stalking, while Mildenberger moves and circles.
0:30 > Mildenberger catches the Champion coming in with a good right-hand counter.
0:32 > Cassius is 'loading up'.

0:35 > Mildenberger is using pecking right-jabs to keep Cassius outside.
0:43 > Mldenberger is now pressing forward.
0:45 > Mildenberger lands with a god right-hand to the face.
0:47 > Cassius lands a good left-jab to the face.

0:50 > Mildenberger's right-eye is cut and bleeding.
1:02 > Mildenberger is moving fast while circling.
1:04 > Mildenberger scores with a good left-hand lead.
1:06 > Blood is now coming out from the corner of Mildenberger's left eye.

1:10 > Mildenberger is smartly moving 'in-and-out', presenting a difficult target.
1:16 > Cassius is winging right-hands, but is not connecting.
1:24 > Cassius lands with a sharp 'left-left-right'.
1:27 > Cassius pecks away with a 'left-left-right'.

1:30 > Mildenberger moves to the back Ring area.
1:31 > Cassius moves in but misses with a 'left-left-right-left'.
1:33 > Mildenberger moves to the left-side Ropes.
1:35 > Mildenberger goes back to circling to his right.

1:37 > Mildenberger is showing that he is a 'game fighter'.
1:38 > Cassius misses again with a 'left-left'.
1:40 > The fighters move to Center-Ring.
1:41 > Mildenberger lands with a sharp right to the face.

1:42 > Both remain at Center-Ring.
1:45 > Mildenberger circles to his right, and is doing a good job of avoiding any incoming punches.
1:54 > Cassius continues to fire, but is missing.
1:58 > Cassius lands with a good left-jab.

2:07 > Mildenberger counters with a left-hand lead.
2:08 > Cassius lands with a 'glancing' right-hand lead.
2:10 > Mildenberger moves to the left-side Ropes.
2:17 > Mildenberger moves out to Center-Ring.

2:20 > Cassius is trying to end it, but cannot land anything flush.
2:22 > Mildenberger backs up to the front-center Ropes.
2:24 > Cassius steps forward, and lands a 'jarring' left-hook the chin.
2:25 > Mildenberger moves to the right-side Ring area.

2:29 > Cassius is sending out measuring left-jabs to the face.
2:33 > Mildenberger continues to circle to his right, and darts side-to-side as well.
2:40 > Cassius starts to put on more pressure as he moves forward.

2:45 > Cassius is firing, but he is missing with nearly everything he throws.
2:50 > Mildenberger continues to bob-and-weave while moving.
3:00 > 'Bell'

Round 6 > Goes to Cassius Clay

Both former Champions > Joe Louis and Max Schmeling score Round 6 for the Champion, stating that
Cassius had his best Round.

Max Schmeling >
"Karl took a pasting, but showed that he is a game fighter. He made the Champion miss with 80% of
his punches. Still, Clay had his best Round."

Joe Louis >
"Clay is the Champion, and fought Round 6 like he was in charge. He tried like Hell to end it, but that
Mildenberger is putting up a great effort."

[Master]

or ridicuous depending on your perspective

Well atleast nobody can accuse old Bill of not being dedicated lol

They can accuse him of being mentally unstable about Ali.