Who do you WANT to WIN? Manny or Floyd?

[Gandalf]

This thread is to see who the populist choice for the past its sell by date fight of the century is. Personally, I want Manny to win simply because he is the man who fights live opponents, isn't scared to lose, and will take risks in order to get his job done. In other words he has incredible balls which must now make me a Pac nut hugger. We all cling on together with the hope that the act will be over prematurely in our favour. Go, go Manny!

[mrbig1]

Brothers and Sisters, I've saying for ten years Floyd is the best fighter in the world. He may suck as a human but he's still the best. So I pulling for Money.

[Ron Swanson]

This thread is to see who the populist choice for the past its sell by date fight of the century is. Personally, I want Manny to win simply because he is the man who fights live opponents, isn't scared to lose, and will take risks in order to get his job done. In other words he has incredible balls which must now make me a Pac nut hugger. We all cling on together with the hope that the act will be over prematurely in our favour. Go, go Manny!

Live opponents isn't a fair comparison because it's all relative. He fought Marquez 4 times. Mayweather would get brutalized if he did the same thing because Marquez has absolutely no chance to ever beat Floyd.

Alvarez would also beat Marquez so see how it doesn't work? He would also crush Algieri, beat the snot out of Rios and be a favorite against Bradley.

[Gandalf]

Well, Pac fought Marquez at different weights and P4P they are fair opponents for one another. Marquez was just far too small and unprepared to fight Mayweather who had been at the weight for a long time. Of course it would be bizarre for Mayweather to fight Marquez 4 times.

In terms of common opponents, is it not a fact that mini Manny has also beaten them far more ably and easily than Floyd who has been WW at above for a very long time? Not bad for a tiny little man. Cotto pounded. DLH dusted. Mosley massacred. Hatton hammered. But Marquez is to define this fight? I'm not so sure that is the case.

Manny was finally doing a number on Marquez in the 4th fight and just got sloppy. Manny has also shown more strings to his bow in recent years. Mayweather on the other hand is losing his legs and is getting tagged a lot. He cannot afford to have no legs and get tagged too much against Manny.

I think output and activity will be the difference in this one. Maybe a bit like Calzaghe/Hopkins except Pac can hit harder and Mayweather will perhaps try to spoil even more.

[walrus]

I truly want Manny to win. I lean towards pactardish but to be honest what I truly want to see is one of the greatest fights ever fought. I know that's asking a lot. Both of these guys peaked and are no longer at points where skills will improve but they may both be able to pull something beautiful out of their asses. Please, let it be a beautiful fight, I have a lot of respect for Floyd's boxing but I hope he's not on his bike all night and we get to see some engagement. I know it's not going to be toe to toe but I hope they both are willing to get down.

[beenKOed]

Conflicted describes the way I feel. I'd like to see Manny win, I like the man. I also want to see Floyd best that 49-0 record of Marciano's. It would be a shame to see Floyd get this close and fail.

[brocktonblockbust]

A win for Manny is a win for boxing. A refreshing breeze for the sport.

[ruthless rocco]

Manny is a steroid cheat. He's a fucking ratdog.

[p4pking]

I'd much rather just see a good fight, think that's more likely to happen if Manny could pull it off so I'll say him. The worst outcome would be a dull or one sided fight with both guys looking their age, considering the dog shit undercard and how many people new to boxing will watch it.

[brocktonblockbust]

Manny is a steroid cheat. He's a fucking ratdog.

Manny Rat-quiao. Haha

[ruthless rocco]

Utter scumbag piece of shit.
He could have killed someone with all the steroids and PEDs.
No class.
Complete lack of respect for the opponent and the sport.

I can't understand why everyone thinks he's some kind of saint.

[piye]

I'd like to see floyd win, if pac loses it doesn't make much of a difference to his legacy as he's lost multiple times before.

[brocktonblockbust]

Utter scumbag piece of shit.
He could have killed someone with all the steroids and PEDs.
No class.
Complete lack of respect for the opponent and the sport.

I can't understand why everyone thinks he's some kind of saint.

anybody who takes that s*** is a scumbag and should be put in jail. my only question is was he ever actually caught through testing? Or are we just assuming he was taking that because he looked so much bigger and had so much more power?

[ruthless rocco]

Utter scumbag piece of shit.
He could have killed someone with all the steroids and PEDs.
No class.
Complete lack of respect for the opponent and the sport.

I can't understand why everyone thinks he's some kind of saint.

anybody who takes that s*** is a scumbag and should be put in jail. my only question is was he ever actually caught through testing? Or are we just assuming he was taking that because he looked so much bigger and had so much more power?

Point form answer:
Who has ever gone from 106 LBs to 147 LBs and KO'd top level opponents the whole way?

Roach says Ariza is a "scumbag" & "dirty" & is "not to be trusted" claims he gave Pac shakes but refused to explain what was in them.

Pac has no knock outs since he stopped training with Ariza even though he has fought "lesser opponents" (Rios, Algieri)

Lance Armstrong never tested positive for steroids over his whole career even tho he has since admitted to using almost every kind of PED from 1995 onward.

Pac refused to be tested for Mayweather fight in 2009 despite career high payday. WHY??

Looks like shit, smells like shit... Probably shit.

[brocktonblockbust]

Utter scumbag piece of shit.
He could have killed someone with all the steroids and PEDs.
No class.
Complete lack of respect for the opponent and the sport.

I can't understand why everyone thinks he's some kind of saint.

anybody who takes that s*** is a scumbag and should be put in jail. my only question is was he ever actually caught through testing? Or are we just assuming he was taking that because he looked so much bigger and had so much more power?

Point form answer:
Who has ever gone from 106 LBs to 147 LBs and KO'd top level opponents the whole way?

Roach says Ariza is a "scumbag" & "dirty" & is "not to be trusted" claims he gave Pac shakes but refused to explain what was in them.

Pac has no knock outs since he stopped training with Ariza even though he has fought "lesser opponents" (Rios, Algieri)

Lance Armstrong never tested positive for steroids over his whole career even tho he has since admitted to using almost every kind of PED from 1995 onward.

Pac refused to be tested for Mayweather fight in 2009 despite career high payday. WHY??

Looks like shit, smells like shit... Probably shit.

valid point indeed. what kind of peds they have been taken that did not show up on the regular boxing commission before and after testing? perhaps those tests are not very stringent or he was taking some kind of masking drug