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    Default Floyd should have done more.

    I am a big fan of floyd mayweather but he should have done more in his last fight against manny.

    I had the fight 8-4 or 7-5 in his favour and watching the fight again a lot of floyds pitty pat Moseley jabs were taken on mannys gloves.

    He was the boss on the night and never looked in trouble but he never seemed to have manny in any serious trouble either but it was more frustration.

    I agree with floyd Sr that he should have pressed it a bit more with more combinations to cement the win.

    Winning is important whether it's an inch or a mile but floyd could have at least shown us a bit more than second gear!

    I know that's how he fights and he plays an excellent chess game but at least one of the rounds he could have shown alittle bit of the beast mode.

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    He won. That's what he always does.
    Look, I'm not falling for this BS of Floyd Sr. suddenly becoming critical of what Floyd does in the ring. The words were probably put in his mouth by Floyd.
    Part of Floyd's exit strategy? Maybe? I don't take anything at face value that comes from Floyd's camp.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Floyd did EVERYTHING.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Floyd total dominated manny I had it 9-3 and I only gave manny a 3rd round because I felt I needed too, really 1 sided fight not sure what else floyd could of done to be honest.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Floyd won the fight, without a doubt, and I can see a solid case for 9-3, or even 10-2. That being said, I feel that the fight and performance by both competitors was underwhelming. I know many will just say "that's just Floyd's style" and point to his defensive brilliance, and maybe they are right. For me, I compare his performance to Pernell Whitaker, another defensive whiz who took on his biggest threat in Julio Ceasar Chavez and Sweet Pea was much more impressive offensively. To put in perspective, Ehitaker was credited with landing 311 punches (and he stood right in front of Chavez and was so slick he shut down an offensive juggernaut) where Floyd landed 148. Floyd is extremely effective in the ring and a great boxer, but I don't see myself buying anymore of his fights or even caring much if he wins or loses, his last fight was enough for me.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    I would have loved to have seen him get aggressive and close the show, but he's at a point now where he's going to take ZERO risk and just focus on retiring undefeated.
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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Floyd won the fight, without a doubt, and I can see a solid case for 9-3, or even 10-2. That being said, I feel that the fight and performance by both competitors was underwhelming. I know many will just say "that's just Floyd's style" and point to his defensive brilliance, and maybe they are right. For me, I compare his performance to Pernell Whitaker, another defensive whiz who took on his biggest threat in Julio Ceasar Chavez and Sweet Pea was much more impressive offensively. To put in perspective, Ehitaker was credited with landing 311 punches (and he stood right in front of Chavez and was so slick he shut down an offensive juggernaut) where Floyd landed 148. Floyd is extremely effective in the ring and a great boxer, but I don't see myself buying anymore of his fights or even caring much if he wins or loses, his last fight was enough for me.
    Wasn't Parnell 10 years younger than floyd in that fight ? At floyds age pernell was getting stopped by Carlos bojorquez.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by g3org3 View Post
    Floyd total dominated manny I had it 9-3 and I only gave manny a 3rd round because I felt I needed too, really 1 sided fight not sure what else floyd could of done to be honest.
    What you did not give Manny the 4th round where he rocked Floyd?
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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Floyd should have done more!

    I am unsure if he was unable to because Manny is good or that he could not be bothered since he does not fancy it any more.

    Either way Floyd is not worth the money he is paid and he is laughing all the way to the bank because he is on a fat contract and getting away with his non-entertainment.
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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by g3org3 View Post
    Floyd total dominated manny I had it 9-3 and I only gave manny a 3rd round because I felt I needed too, really 1 sided fight not sure what else floyd could of done to be honest.
    What you did not give Manny the 4th round where he rocked Floyd?
    Yea I gave manny the 4th 6th and 10th but the 10th was close just saying manny only had two strong rounds

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    Was Holyfield ever a slick boxer known for his defensive skills? Bernard was fight a blown up jr welter who had illegal handwraps to give him power his whole career but Bernard knew he couldn't hurt him since he got caught cheating in the dressing room before the fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Was Holyfield ever a slick boxer known for his defensive skills? Bernard was fight a blown up jr welter who had illegal handwraps to give him power his whole career but Bernard knew he couldn't hurt him since he got caught cheating in the dressing room before the fight.
    I would say Tito was closer to Hops size than Manny was to Floyds. If Tito was a blown up Welter (he had just blown out the universally recognized #2 middleweight in his previous fight), then Manny is a blown up Flyweight. It's a stupid argument and insignificant post Rocco, quit trying to argue semantics. Bottom line- Floyds a great fighter but should've done more.

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    Tito just bet the number 2 with LOADED GLOVES. Bernard made sure Tito had normal regulation wraps for their fight. So he knew he could go after him.

    Also I'd argue that Manny is a more multidimensional fighter than Tito. You have to worry about Manny's movement, his angles, his speed his combos. Tito needed to be set up on the front foot to throw. Bernard put on a masterful performance never letting him set to throw but as I said before Bernard knew that there would be less power on Tito's punches because of the legal wraps.
    Last edited by ruthless rocco; 05-14-2015 at 06:21 AM.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Tito just bet the number 2 with LOADED GLOVES. Bernard made sure Tito had normal regulation wraps for their fight. So he knew he could go after him.

    Also I'd argue that Manny is a more multidimensional fighter than Tito. You have to worry about Manny's movement, his angles, his speed his combos. Tito needed to be set up on the front foot to throw. Bernard put on a masterful performance never letting him set to throw but as I said before Bernard knew that there would be less power on Tito's punches because of the legal wraps.
    Are you REALLY trying to argue this?!?!?!? Manny had recently been knocked out, was past his prime, much smaller and fighting with a TORN ROTATOR CUFF!!!! Tito was in his prime, just as big as Hop, undefeated and coming off the annihilation of #2 guy at 154 (Vargas) and 160 (Joppy) and was a HUGE favorite to blow Bernard out!!!!

    Again, question was should Floyd have done more than land 148 punches (most insignificant) and the answer is YES!!!! Previous fight of the century was Ali vs Frazier 1. Watch that fight and compare to the Floyd vs Manny farce. Watch Taylor vs Chavez 1 and then compare to that farce. Watch Hearns vs Leonard/Hagler n compare those to that farce. Watch Evander vs Bowe/Tyson n compare. Carbajal vs Gonzalez. You get the idea. Floyd's great, but could care less about the fans. For almost $200m for the last fight, he should've cared and done more.

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    Default Re: Floyd should have done more.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Tito just bet the number 2 with LOADED GLOVES. Bernard made sure Tito had normal regulation wraps for their fight. So he knew he could go after him.

    Also I'd argue that Manny is a more multidimensional fighter than Tito. You have to worry about Manny's movement, his angles, his speed his combos. Tito needed to be set up on the front foot to throw. Bernard put on a masterful performance never letting him set to throw but as I said before Bernard knew that there would be less power on Tito's punches because of the legal wraps.
    Are you REALLY trying to argue this?!?!?!? Manny had recently been knocked out, was past his prime, much smaller and fighting with a TORN ROTATOR CUFF!!!! Tito was in his prime, just as big as Hop, undefeated and coming off the annihilation of #2 guy at 154 (Vargas) and 160 (Joppy) and was a HUGE favorite to blow Bernard out!!!!

    Again, question was should Floyd have done more than land 148 punches (most insignificant) and the answer is YES!!!! Previous fight of the century was Ali vs Frazier 1. Watch that fight and compare to the Floyd vs Manny farce. Watch Taylor vs Chavez 1 and then compare to that farce. Watch Hearns vs Leonard/Hagler n compare those to that farce. Watch Evander vs Bowe/Tyson n compare. Carbajal vs Gonzalez. You get the idea. Floyd's great, but could care less about the fans. For almost $200m for the last fight, he should've cared and done more.

    You seem to lack the ability to grasp the reality of THIS fight and the fighters involved and are instead comparing the words used in promoting the fight like "fight of the century" to past fights fought by different fighters. They chose "fight of the century" because it was going to generate the more money than any other fight this or last or any century(probably all combined). Floyd is not Hagler or Leonard. He is not Holyfield or Bowe. He is not anyone but himself. He fought exactly the same fight he always fights. So how can you say he should have done more? Pacquiao should have done more. Pacquiao is the one who threw 500 less punches. Pacquiao was the one who connected with less than 82 punches. Pacquiao was the one who made little to no effort to cut off the ring or attack recklessly to take his opponent down. Mayweather fought to the blueprint he always fights.

    You look like a fool suggesting that Floyd be someone that he's not. Hes the highest paid athlete in the world 3 years running. He's the highest paid boxer ever. He's the reason everyone bough the fight. He must be doing everything just fine. It's chumps like you that are still trying to put the blame on him for dominating Pacquiao that are a fucking farce.

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