I have to thank Evander Holyfield!

[ykdadamaja]

Do you know that if it were not for Evander Holyfield, we would not have had any connection with any of the greats to any meaningful extent?

We have to thank Evander for fighting Lewis twice; fighting Bowe three times; fighting Tyson twice; fighting Moorer twice; fighting a comeback Foreman; fighting Ray Mercer; and fighting a comebacking Larry Holmes. He did not have to do any of that shit. None of it. But he did. All except for Foreman (but not really) and Holmes were all in their prime.

Thanks to Evander for making the 90's extra for the heavyweights.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Do you know that if it were not for Evander Holyfield, we would not have had any connection with any of the greats to any meaningful extent?

We have to thank Evander for fighting Lewis twice; fighting Bowe three times; fighting Tyson twice; fighting Moorer twice; fighting a comeback Foreman; fighting Ray Mercer; and fighting a comebacking Larry Holmes. He did not have to do any of that shit. None of it. But he did. All except for Foreman (but not really) and Holmes were all in their prime.

Thanks to Evander for making the 90's extra for the heavyweights.

umm he fought the best opposition available at all times, he did the same at Cruiserweight, that's what REAL champions are supposed to do, not fight losers like Rios or Algieri

[Master]

It is a bit late to thank him now but yes he was a quality fighter who gave it his all.

He did have some bad showings against Moorer, should have finished Bowe in their 3rd fight and at the end was losing more fights than he won.

[tysonesque]

I agree that he was a true champion, but Tyson was by no means in his prime when they fought.

Prime Tyson v prime Holyfield would have been a great fight though.

[mikeeod]

I agree that he was a true champion, but Tyson was by no means in his prime when they fought.

Prime Tyson v prime Holyfield would have been a great fight though.

Prime Tyson is a great fight for any elite heavyweight in history. That being said, I feel like Evander is one of the worst style match ups for Mike. I feel like their first fight was great regardless, but prime vs prime would've been UNBELIEVABLE. Feel like Evander wins regardless though.

[Spicoli]

Last night he kept doing us favors by "knocking out" Mitt Romney in a charity event

It was pretty bad acting, but it beats him still stubbornly hanging on and being bashed up in the real ring.

Legend. Fact!

[ykdadamaja]

He must be thanked. Because while others were dodging and running from real fights, Lennox included, he made fights happen.

The only fight Lennox REALLY wanted was the Holyfield fight. But his attempts at Bowe and his earlier attempts with Tyson were half-hearted. At best.

No Foreman and no Moorer for Lewis either.

[Ron Swanson]

Who cares that Lennox didn't fight Moorer, Moorer was legendary at lighter weights but he wasn't a great heavyweight? And Foreman was a side show. Don't get me wrong, Foreman could still beat some people, hence Tysons crippling fear of him, but old George wasn't a great either.

And let's not forget your hero Evan Fields was a known steroid cheat.

[Bill Paxtom]

Who cares that Lennox didn't fight Moorer, Moorer was legendary at lighter weights but he wasn't a great heavyweight? And Foreman was a side show. Don't get me wrong, Foreman could still beat some people, hence Tysons crippling fear of him, but old George wasn't a great either.

And let's not forget your hero Evan Fields was a known steroid cheat.

Doctor Ron,

You are correct on 2 of the above 3 statements. That's batting .667 > which puts you in the
'Hall of Fame'.

But if you think that George Foreman was 'a joke', then you never saw him in Training.

[Ron Swanson]

Who cares that Lennox didn't fight Moorer, Moorer was legendary at lighter weights but he wasn't a great heavyweight? And Foreman was a side show. Don't get me wrong, Foreman could still beat some people, hence Tysons crippling fear of him, but old George wasn't a great either.

And let's not forget your hero Evan Fields was a known steroid cheat.

Doctor Ron,

You are correct on 2 of the above 3 statements. That's batting .667 > which puts you in the
'Hall of Fame'.

But if you think that George Foreman was 'a joke', then you never saw him in Training.

I didn't say joke, I said he wasn't a great anymore. I said side show because more people cared about his age than anything else.

There are very few greats, young George was one of them, I'm not going to elevate old George to that status because he landed one punch on Moorers sweet spot.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Who cares that Lennox didn't fight Moorer, Moorer was legendary at lighter weights but he wasn't a great heavyweight? And Foreman was a side show. Don't get me wrong, Foreman could still beat some people, hence Tysons crippling fear of him, but old George wasn't a great either.

And let's not forget your hero Evan Fields was a known steroid cheat.

Doctor Ron,

You are correct on 2 of the above 3 statements. That's batting .667 > which puts you in the
'Hall of Fame'.

But if you think that George Foreman was 'a joke', then you never saw him in Training.

I didn't say joke, I said he wasn't a great anymore. I said side show because more people cared about his age than anything else.

There are very few greats, young George was one of them, I'm not going to elevate old George to that status because he landed one punch on Moorers sweet spot.

in all honesty, I think Old George would have whooped Young George's ass, he came back a more well rounded (no pun intended) fighter, had an outstanding piston like jab that he didn't have before and anvil straight right hand rather than just his clubbing hooks and wide uppercuts of when he was young, he also paced himself a lot better and could still take a nuclear bomb on the chin without flinching, he was a great fighter period, didn't matter what time frame

[X]

Holyfield had one of the biggest hearts in boxing history, a real warrior.

I must say that the fact he was juicing through most of his elite pro career has got to count against him though. I remember being incredulous that he could keep up such a pace against Qawi, I marvelled at the way he put on weight to become a true heavyweight and I always admired the way he came on strong in the championship rounds.

The heart issues he suffered should have been a giveaway earlier on.

I can't abide dopers, and it was rife in boxing in the 90s. Unfortunately, Evander cheated.

[beenKOed]

Who cares that Lennox didn't fight Moorer, Moorer was legendary at lighter weights but he wasn't a great heavyweight? And Foreman was a side show. Don't get me wrong, Foreman could still beat some people, hence Tysons crippling fear of him, but old George wasn't a great either.

And let's not forget your hero Evan Fields was a known steroid cheat.

Doctor Ron,

You are correct on 2 of the above 3 statements. That's batting .667 > which puts you in the
'Hall of Fame'.

But if you think that George Foreman was 'a joke', then you never saw him in Training.

I didn't say joke, I said he wasn't a great anymore. I said side show because more people cared about his age than anything else.

There are very few greats, young George was one of them, I'm not going to elevate old George to that status because he landed one punch on Moorers sweet spot.

in all honesty, I think Old George would have whooped Young George's ass, he came back a more well rounded (no pun intended) fighter, had an outstanding piston like jab that he didn't have before and anvil straight right hand rather than just his clubbing hooks and wide uppercuts of when he was young, he also paced himself a lot better and could still take a nuclear bomb on the chin without flinching, he was a great fighter period, didn't matter what time frame

Can't agree about Foreman's jab. Young Foreman had the most punishing jab I've ever seen. Nothing about young Foreman impressed me as much as his jab. It made me wince when he used it.
You are absolutely right about Foreman being more rounded in his second career, fought smarter too.
Now go ahead and tell me about Holmes, Lewis, Wald and a dozen other heavyweights with great jabs and I'll still pick young Foreman's.