Quiting

[Maravilla2012]

So I've seen many guys quit in the corner and shit but some are labeled as not having heart and others or not. One example is that Victor Ortiz quit against Maidana and against Lopez and was labeled as not having any heart and as being a quitter in the sport. Daniel Geale has twice told a ref that he didn't wanna continue. Against GGG and against Cotto and no one is saying anything about it. What makes one fighter a quiter and heartless and the other not ?

[Beanflicker]

I think, in this case, it has more to do with the fact that nobody gives a flying fuck about Geale. He was brought in to lose and he did his job, whereas Victor Ortiz was being pushed as the next Oscar de la Hoya and quit against Maidana because, in his words, he was young and didn't deserve to be getting beat up like that - not exactly the words of a champion prizefighter.

There are a lot of degrees of quitting, and quitting takes a lot of different forms. You see a lot of guys quit mentally without actually verbally quitting. Guys go in with a game plan, it doesn't work out, they start getting hit and then they just quit mentally and either look for a nice place to fall on the canvas or go into survival mode to get to the final bell. I've seen many times where I believe quitting was justified - guys who are losing by a landslide, are physically broken and have nothing left in the tank who would just be getting off their stools to take more punishment.

That warrior's spirit can't be taught or learned, you either have it or you don't. That's what separates the men from the boys in boxing.

[powerpuncher]

It also depends how you are doing in the fight. Geale was losing every round and knew by that time he didn't really have a chance to win so he would just keep getting beat up. Being a quitter is when you are in the fight and then quit because it gets too tough. For example, when freitas quit against Corrales. Freitas was winning every round then gets knocked down twice and quits. That's what makes you a quitter.

[Master]

Geale was weak at the weight so deserves some credit.

[IamInuit]

There is an old boxing maxim which states, given two men of equal skill and ability but different size, the bigger man wins. Robinson never asked for catches because he was the more skilled man along with many others. You know, the real p4p fighters. Why did the more skilled fighter in Cotto need to weaken the less skilled Geale?

Why does Geale now face the wrath of people for being forced to fight as half a man and then finishing like one?

[Beanflicker]

Geale was losing every round and knew by that time he didn't really have a chance to win so he would just keep getting beat up.

Well let's be real, it was only round 4. People have come back from worse to win. Geale quit and is a quitter, plain and simple, but that's why he was brought in to fight Cotto. They knew he didn't hit hard and he'd fold under the kind of pressure Cotto could put on him.

I think it's more shameful when the (so called) elite quit, like Freitas as you mentioned.

[Silkeyjoe]

I thought the quit last night was shocking. Wasnt really hurt badly. Could have been completely drained and just had no strenght or energy to throw punches.

[powerpuncher]

Geale was losing every round and knew by that time he didn't really have a chance to win so he would just keep getting beat up.

Well let's be real, it was only round 4. People have come back from worse to win. Geale quit and is a quitter, plain and simple, but that's why he was brought in to fight Cotto. They knew he didn't hit hard and he'd fold under the kind of pressure Cotto could put on him.

I think it's more shameful when the (so called) elite quit, like Freitas as you mentioned.

I think that geale knew that he was done. He could probably feel the effects of the weight drain and knew that his energy was already gone and he had no chance.

[Beanz]

What happened last night was bad for the image. reputation and integrity of the sport. It calls it into disrepute and makes a mockery of all the brave men that have battled through unbelievable hardship, and seemingly insurmountable odds to pull a victory out of the fire. Still with any luck Canelo will spark the twat out or Golovkin will finally get the chance to retire the bloke for good at a weight not dictated by Michelle Cotto.

Geale surprised me by saying he had enough but then even a few rounds of sparring is unwise and terribly punishing after the equivalent of a bad bout of diarrhea or a similar dehydrating unnecessary loss of weight.

[Manos de Piedra]

I think, in this case, it has more to do with the fact that nobody gives a flying fuck about Geale. He was brought in to lose and he did his job, whereas Victor Ortiz was being pushed as the next Oscar de la Hoya and quit against Maidana because, in his words, he was young and didn't deserve to be getting beat up like that - not exactly the words of a champion prizefighter.

There are a lot of degrees of quitting, and quitting takes a lot of different forms. You see a lot of guys quit mentally without actually verbally quitting. Guys go in with a game plan, it doesn't work out, they start getting hit and then they just quit mentally and either look for a nice place to fall on the canvas or go into survival mode to get to the final bell. I've seen many times where I believe quitting was justified - guys who are losing by a landslide, are physically broken and have nothing left in the tank who would just be getting off their stools to take more punishment.

That warrior's spirit can't be taught or learned, you either have it or you don't. That's what separates the men from the boys in boxing.

That.

[imp]

Duran was the most popular boxer to have quit.

Boxing is the toughest sport in the world..people quit in other sports so perhaps we should really be a bit more lenient to those that quit in the ring considering your life is on the line.

[g3org3]

So I've seen many guys quit in the corner and shit but some are labeled as not having heart and others or not. One example is that Victor Ortiz quit against Maidana and against Lopez and was labeled as not having any heart and as being a quitter in the sport. Daniel Geale has twice told a ref that he didn't wanna continue. Against GGG and against Cotto and no one is saying anything about it. What makes one fighter a quiter and heartless and the other not ?

Good post. I watched the cotto geale fight and soon as he said he didn't want to continue I shouted fucking coward at my TV. It's shocking to see any boxer quit under any circumstances IMO. Boxing is a hard sport when the going gets tough you can't just quit and if you do quit I think it's time to seriously find another sport.

[Maravilla2012]

So I've seen many guys quit in the corner and shit but some are labeled as not having heart and others or not. One example is that Victor Ortiz quit against Maidana and against Lopez and was labeled as not having any heart and as being a quitter in the sport. Daniel Geale has twice told a ref that he didn't wanna continue. Against GGG and against Cotto and no one is saying anything about it. What makes one fighter a quiter and heartless and the other not ?

Good post. I watched the cotto geale fight and soon as he said he didn't want to continue I shouted fucking coward at my TV. It's shocking to see any boxer quit under any circumstances IMO. Boxing is a hard sport when the going gets tough you can't just quit and if you do quit I think it's time to seriously find another sport.

The part that shocks me about the way Geale quit is that both times he makes the count then says he doesn't wanna continue. If he wants out just don't make the count , save some face instead of outright saying he doesn't want anymore.

[Hulk]

So I've seen many guys quit in the corner and shit but some are labeled as not having heart and others or not. One example is that Victor Ortiz quit against Maidana and against Lopez and was labeled as not having any heart and as being a quitter in the sport. Daniel Geale has twice told a ref that he didn't wanna continue. Against GGG and against Cotto and no one is saying anything about it. What makes one fighter a quiter and heartless and the other not ?

Good post. I watched the cotto geale fight and soon as he said he didn't want to continue I shouted fucking coward at my TV. It's shocking to see any boxer quit under any circumstances IMO. Boxing is a hard sport when the going gets tough you can't just quit and if you do quit I think it's time to seriously find another sport.

The part that shocks me about the way Geale quit is that both times he makes the count then says he doesn't wanna continue. If he wants out just don't make the count , save some face instead of outright saying he doesn't want anymore.

I hadn't thought of that.

Apparently, neither had Geale.