Re: Ray Robinson vs Floyd Maweather @ 147 or 154
Originally Posted by
Beanflicker
It's funny because I've been on a huge SRR kick this last week or so, I've gone back and watched a lot of the old fights that I haven't seen in many years.
Sugar Ray was a great fighter, a true ATG legend in the sport, and actually stayed very good even into his late 30s and early 40s!
That being said... I think he benefits greatly from the "era bias", where the "experts" pass down this message that he was the greatest fighter who ever lived until it becomes gospel that everyone recites. People watch the highlight videos, they read the great stories of victory but they don't study the old fights with a critical eye.
As far as being the greatest in-ring talent of all time... I don't buy it. I think there were better technicians in the ring - Floyd and Pernell included.
And I'll say that other than having a clear punching power advantage over Floyd, I really don't see what he did better than Floyd in the ring. Floyd was the superior talent and I would pick him to win a (probably boring) decision in a fight that would largely be a fencing match.
I'll agree mostly with this. Even barring any rule, contract, promotion or other manipulations... Floyd has the defensive experience and strategy on "winning" 12 round boxing matches and benefits from evolutionized training, nutrition, medicine, supplements and other modern conveniences. He specializes in pot shotting and staying away long enough to win a 12 round decision. Boxer vs. Fighter...Floyd decisively earns a decision in the ring. Ray Robinson wins a fight to the death anywhere else.
They want your @$$ beat because upsets make news. News brings about excitement, excitement brings about ratings. The objective is to bring you up to the tower and tear your @$$ down. And if you don't believe that, you're crazy.
Roy Jones, Jr. "What I've Learned," Esquire 2003
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