Originally Posted by
ross
Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
Originally Posted by
Silkeyjoe
I would expect Fury to shorten a bit before the start due to the patriot money but in all honesty its very hard to know. There isnt much interest in the fight from a betting POV yet but you would think once sky start hyping the fight everyone will punt on it.
Comparing this to the Haye v Klit fight where Haye opened over 2/1 and went off at 5/4 where there was huge volumes of money on Haye it doesnt look like we will see nearly as much money and as such not as big a move.
In these big fights it takes huge volumes of mug money to move the line as price confidence is high so early moves tend to be from smart business as opposed to just backing the popular selection. In general the patriot money comes the week of the fight.
Silks, thanks for the info , I appreciate it, and I can see you're being very diplomatic and don't want to get involved in this childish disagreement between Ross and Me.
some things I noted from your reply , are that:
1. there isn't interest betting wise, probably because the "smart money" wouldn't waste their dough on Fury.
2. the Haye price went down because there was a lot of activity from the "Smart Money" leading up to the fight , presumably because clever people thought that Haye had a better chance than Fury does. and you don't reckon you'll see anywhere near that sort of money on this fight because of the reasons above.
3. when you mention "Mug Money" , not wishing to put words into your mouth , and you don't have to answer , I'm assuming you mean people like Ross, who would lump on thinking the price is going to drop just because Fury stares down Wlad?
Thoughts Ross?
My thoughts are as everyone can see you tried to prove me wrong and failed you mug
You and that bigger thick mug Ron Swanson. Pair of twats. How does it feel to be proven wrong by me?
People like Silkyjoe who are paid to make the odds know that Tyson has a much better chance of beating Wlad than Povetkin did. You disagree because you know fuck all and would never get a job as an odds maker!
You have now found out that yes, the bookies actually give Tyson the best chance of beating Wlad since Haye. Ross wins there... And that also, Ross is right that the odds will shorten once Sky actually start the media hype which hasnt happened yet. Wait till this time tomorrow after the London press conference
Wait till Tyson wins. What shite will you be typing then
Fair Play Ross , you are such a fucking sap! ha.
1. you've proven nothing , as per usual, your argument is based on Conjecture!
2. I respect Silkeyjoe's views on odds making, however whether Fury has a better chance than Povetkin is a matter of opinion , again Conjecture!
3. by your warped line of thinking, Fury has the best chance since Haye of beating Wlad, BUT because Haye's odds were lower, a.) not as good a chance, meaning Haye is better than Fury, and b.) he hasn't got as good a chance as Haye, and Haye Lost anyway.
So "Ross wins there." what does Ross ACTUALLY win? answer , Absolutely fuck all , you fool.
So after tomorrow's press conference , the price will drop will it?
didn't you read Silkeyjoe say there hasn't been much interest betting wise on this fight? why ? because nobody thinks Fury will win.
and didn't you read when Silkeyjoe said "in these big fights it takes huge volumes of mug (Ross) money to move the line as price confidence is high" now, as there hasn't been that much interest betting wise , how is there going to be "Huge Volumes of Money" put on ?
so stop picking out little crumbs of comfort to try and justify your futile argument and start coming up with some facts. or are you going to do what you normally do and when you can't answer something , ignore it and hijack another thread and spout off the same old conjecture based horse shit!
just in case you don't know what Conjecture means , I found this in the Oxford English Dictionary:
Conjecture - Something with no facts, proof or substance that saps like Ross use to try to prove their point because they think people are fucking stupid enough to fall for it!!!
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