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    Quote Originally Posted by Donny View Post
    Hi;
    Wow, a boxer from an actual national team!
    I was just wondering if you could help me out by explaining some of your points in greater detail, as I think a clearer explanation could be really interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Well I'm on the national team and every coach/trainer who I have seen teaches fighters to rest your gloves on your chin and lift the elbows. Think of an elastic band how it goes out slowly and comes back quickly. Now if a fighter has elasticity hooks are going to land on his gloves and if his punches are short (6 inches) straight punches from the opponent won't get through. There's no need to turn the left shoulder or head movement or even foot movement for that. Therefore running won't help make your legs strong.
    1. National Team! Cool! Which one?
    2. If you rest your gloves on your chin and lift your elbows, wouldn't that leave most of your head unprotected? and all of your body? Isn't that kinda dangerous?
    3. Maybe I'm not advanced enough to understand your technique... your description was too complicated for me... But how does that clarify that running doesn't make your legs strong?
    Don't all military's internationally use running to enhance endurance in the legs?

    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    They don't care about supination and pronation movements I.e hold a bowl of soup in your hand that is supination and the reverse in pronation. All the docs care about is feeding fighters a cocktail of human growth hormone and testosterone and winny. The specialist asked me what the difference between a 9 km run vs a 10km run. Point being they don't believe in cardio.
    4. How does supination and pronation relate to the cardiovascular system?
    5. Human growth hormone; sorry for the rookie question; but wouldn't HGH be counterproductive in boxing; as enducing hypertrophy would see guys climbing weight without actual increases in force development?
    6. Is synthetic testosterone use common in boxing?
    7. Is Winstrol commonly used by fighters? I would've thought that this would have been very easily detected by any level of testing?
    8. They don't believe in cardio? Wow, could you explain that to me in detail; I can't seem to grasp your thought process here.
    @red fox

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    Default Re: How much time is actually devoted to stamina and cardio by boxers of today?

    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Donny View Post
    Hi;
    Wow, a boxer from an actual national team!
    I was just wondering if you could help me out by explaining some of your points in greater detail, as I think a clearer explanation could be really interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Well I'm on the national team and every coach/trainer who I have seen teaches fighters to rest your gloves on your chin and lift the elbows. Think of an elastic band how it goes out slowly and comes back quickly. Now if a fighter has elasticity hooks are going to land on his gloves and if his punches are short (6 inches) straight punches from the opponent won't get through. There's no need to turn the left shoulder or head movement or even foot movement for that. Therefore running won't help make your legs strong.
    1. National Team! Cool! Which one?
    2. If you rest your gloves on your chin and lift your elbows, wouldn't that leave most of your head unprotected? and all of your body? Isn't that kinda dangerous?
    3. Maybe I'm not advanced enough to understand your technique... your description was too complicated for me... But how does that clarify that running doesn't make your legs strong?
    Don't all military's internationally use running to enhance endurance in the legs?

    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    They don't care about supination and pronation movements I.e hold a bowl of soup in your hand that is supination and the reverse in pronation. All the docs care about is feeding fighters a cocktail of human growth hormone and testosterone and winny. The specialist asked me what the difference between a 9 km run vs a 10km run. Point being they don't believe in cardio.
    4. How does supination and pronation relate to the cardiovascular system?
    5. Human growth hormone; sorry for the rookie question; but wouldn't HGH be counterproductive in boxing; as enducing hypertrophy would see guys climbing weight without actual increases in force development?
    6. Is synthetic testosterone use common in boxing?
    7. Is Winstrol commonly used by fighters? I would've thought that this would have been very easily detected by any level of testing?
    8. They don't believe in cardio? Wow, could you explain that to me in detail; I can't seem to grasp your thought process here.
    @red fox
    First off I won't tell you my team for good reasons! Look if you got power than why use your legs. If your a ko artist than just lift your elbows, why go the full 12 inches in reach when you can ko your opponent with a 6 inch punch.

    Elasticity principle fully extend a rubber band than have it retract. If your arms possess elasticity in your punches than your hand should come back faster than it went out. Providing that the punches are straight how could one penetrate it. The hand is going to come back to my chin before your glove lands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Donny View Post
    Hi;
    Wow, a boxer from an actual national team!
    I was just wondering if you could help me out by explaining some of your points in greater detail, as I think a clearer explanation could be really interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Well I'm on the national team and every coach/trainer who I have seen teaches fighters to rest your gloves on your chin and lift the elbows. Think of an elastic band how it goes out slowly and comes back quickly. Now if a fighter has elasticity hooks are going to land on his gloves and if his punches are short (6 inches) straight punches from the opponent won't get through. There's no need to turn the left shoulder or head movement or even foot movement for that. Therefore running won't help make your legs strong.
    1. National Team! Cool! Which one?
    2. If you rest your gloves on your chin and lift your elbows, wouldn't that leave most of your head unprotected? and all of your body? Isn't that kinda dangerous?
    3. Maybe I'm not advanced enough to understand your technique... your description was too complicated for me... But how does that clarify that running doesn't make your legs strong?
    Don't all military's internationally use running to enhance endurance in the legs?

    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    They don't care about supination and pronation movements I.e hold a bowl of soup in your hand that is supination and the reverse in pronation. All the docs care about is feeding fighters a cocktail of human growth hormone and testosterone and winny. The specialist asked me what the difference between a 9 km run vs a 10km run. Point being they don't believe in cardio.
    4. How does supination and pronation relate to the cardiovascular system?
    5. Human growth hormone; sorry for the rookie question; but wouldn't HGH be counterproductive in boxing; as enducing hypertrophy would see guys climbing weight without actual increases in force development?
    6. Is synthetic testosterone use common in boxing?
    7. Is Winstrol commonly used by fighters? I would've thought that this would have been very easily detected by any level of testing?
    8. They don't believe in cardio? Wow, could you explain that to me in detail; I can't seem to grasp your thought process here.
    @red fox
    First off I won't tell you my team for good reasons! Look if you got power than why use your legs. If your a ko artist than just lift your elbows, why go the full 12 inches in reach when you can ko your opponent with a 6 inch punch.

    Elasticity principle fully extend a rubber band than have it retract. If your arms possess elasticity in your punches than your hand should come back faster than it went out. Providing that the punches are straight how could one penetrate it. The hand is going to come back to my chin before your glove lands.
    @Donny
    @red fox. Absolute gibberish stud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Donny View Post
    Hi;
    Wow, a boxer from an actual national team!
    I was just wondering if you could help me out by explaining some of your points in greater detail, as I think a clearer explanation could be really interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Well I'm on the national team and every coach/trainer who I have seen teaches fighters to rest your gloves on your chin and lift the elbows. Think of an elastic band how it goes out slowly and comes back quickly. Now if a fighter has elasticity hooks are going to land on his gloves and if his punches are short (6 inches) straight punches from the opponent won't get through. There's no need to turn the left shoulder or head movement or even foot movement for that. Therefore running won't help make your legs strong.
    1. National Team! Cool! Which one?
    2. If you rest your gloves on your chin and lift your elbows, wouldn't that leave most of your head unprotected? and all of your body? Isn't that kinda dangerous?
    3. Maybe I'm not advanced enough to understand your technique... your description was too complicated for me... But how does that clarify that running doesn't make your legs strong?
    Don't all military's internationally use running to enhance endurance in the legs?

    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    They don't care about supination and pronation movements I.e hold a bowl of soup in your hand that is supination and the reverse in pronation. All the docs care about is feeding fighters a cocktail of human growth hormone and testosterone and winny. The specialist asked me what the difference between a 9 km run vs a 10km run. Point being they don't believe in cardio.
    4. How does supination and pronation relate to the cardiovascular system?
    5. Human growth hormone; sorry for the rookie question; but wouldn't HGH be counterproductive in boxing; as enducing hypertrophy would see guys climbing weight without actual increases in force development?
    6. Is synthetic testosterone use common in boxing?
    7. Is Winstrol commonly used by fighters? I would've thought that this would have been very easily detected by any level of testing?
    8. They don't believe in cardio? Wow, could you explain that to me in detail; I can't seem to grasp your thought process here.
    @red fox
    First off I won't tell you my team for good reasons! Look if you got power than why use your legs. If your a ko artist than just lift your elbows, why go the full 12 inches in reach when you can ko your opponent with a 6 inch punch.

    Elasticity principle fully extend a rubber band than have it retract. If your arms possess elasticity in your punches than your hand should come back faster than it went out. Providing that the punches are straight how could one penetrate it. The hand is going to come back to my chin before your glove lands.
    @Donny
    @red fox. Absolute gibberish stud.
    Greys nobody teaches fighters to throw across the body since it leaves the floating ribs open. What's worse is lowering the head while throwing the straight right.

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    What are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    What are you talking about?
    Rest your gloves on your the sides of the chin and lift the elbows! Bend the knees to protect against body punches!

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    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    What are you talking about?
    Rest your gloves on your the sides of the chin and lift the elbows! Bend the knees to protect against body punches!
    Gibberish

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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    What are you talking about?
    Rest your gloves on your the sides of the chin and lift the elbows! Bend the knees to protect against body punches!
    Gibberish
    Greys termite Watkins asked me to ask you why would you want to work with a fighter who needs a big ol' long punch to get the job done? Aiba boxing is the discovery of talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    What are you talking about?
    Rest your gloves on your the sides of the chin and lift the elbows! Bend the knees to protect against body punches!
    Gibberish
    Greys termite Watkins asked me to ask you why would you want to work with a fighter who needs a big ol' long punch to get the job done? Aiba boxing is the discovery of talent.
    Termite Watkins did no such thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    What are you talking about?
    Rest your gloves on your the sides of the chin and lift the elbows! Bend the knees to protect against body punches!
    Gibberish
    Greys termite Watkins asked me to ask you why would you want to work with a fighter who needs a big ol' long punch to get the job done? Aiba boxing is the discovery of talent.
    Termite Watkins did no such thing.
    Kenny Weldon aligns the ankles inorder to do the pendulum or as Kenny calls it kicking your heels out. But termite says that most boxers shoulders are to thick for the T-stance.

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    I am very familiar with Kenny Weldon.
    Why don't you address some of the questions posted by Donny- an actual honest to God pro fighter- instead of making things up and speaking in non sequiturs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    I am very familiar with Kenny Weldon.
    Why don't you address some of the questions posted by Donny- an actual honest to God pro fighter- instead of making things up and speaking in non sequiturs?
    Why don't you answer my question why would you want to work with a fighter who needs a big ol' long punch to get the job done. Why would you want to work with a nine punch combo fighter when you could work with a one-two combo fighter? If your fighter has power why move? Why would you stand in the T-stance where the body is wide open. Freddie Roach told me that one! I've answered the boxing questions to the best of my ability. As far as medication goes shouldn't a pro have a doc? Greys your knothing more than a bag of tricks coach and I hate that shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by red fox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    I am very familiar with Kenny Weldon.
    Why don't you address some of the questions posted by Donny- an actual honest to God pro fighter- instead of making things up and speaking in non sequiturs?
    Why don't you answer my question why would you want to work with a fighter who needs a big ol' long punch to get the job done. Why would you want to work with a nine punch combo fighter when you could work with a one-two combo fighter? If your fighter has power why move? Why would you stand in the T-stance where the body is wide open. Freddie Roach told me that one! I've answered the boxing questions to the best of my ability. As far as medication goes shouldn't a pro have a doc? Greys your knothing more than a bag of tricks coach and I hate that shit!
    Freddie Roach told you no such thing. None of what you say makes sense, then you say silly things like that.

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