How much time is actually devoted to stamina and cardio by boxers of today?

[Sleepwalker]

It seems as if more and more fighters are burning out/fatiguing in early stages of fights these days.

Do they spend most of their time in the gym and do "a little running here and there", thus underestimating its importance?

[Scrap]

This could a very interesting thread.

[brocktonblockbust]

long distance running (Marciano would run 10 miles per day in the week before the fight) has been dissed and dissed badly ion the past 12 months by major health experts and trainers for actually tearing down the immune system and causing repetitive joint and tendon injuries/weakening joiints. The young plumpy boys fighting now aged 20-30- are really loving that announcement and cutting back on their roadwork. Focusing on "strength training" and less on cardio

this is a fact as I have visited 2 gyms in the Brooklyn area this past month and heard this directly from trainers.

[cnote111]

I've always thought road work was meant to fill in the gaps, but not be the primary source of stamina in the ring. I feel your bag work, sparring and other boxing relate activities should have more bearing on your stamina/cardio in the ring. I look forward to reading this thread.

[ross]

It seems as if more and more fighters are burning out/fatiguing in early stages of fights these days.

Do they spend most of their time in the gym and do "a little running here and there", thus underestimating its importance?

@Sleepwalker from what iv seen alot of it is to do with the trainers not understanding what the judges are looking for.

Iv been a judge in amateur and asked some coaches what they think we need to see. They told me that the punches have to knock the head back!! Thats rubbish. As a judge you are looking for punches that have had effort put in them and not just a pawing jab. Those punches also need to land with the knuckle on the scoring area.

They are teaching their fighters to put everything in to every punch so they come out like Mike Tyson in the first round and blow themselves out. They load up on everything and inevitably most of it doesnt land or score anyway amd they are exhausted for the rest of the fight.

Some of this also comes from not being taugt defense enough. Lots of people who call the,selves trainers like to replicate what they have seen on telly with Mayweather and Pacquiao on the pads and they think this makes them good trainers.

Their fighters are not confident in their ability to defend against punches and will not stand in punching range. They launch themselves with loaded up punches and it just looks messy, tires them and gets them no where on the scoring.

What they should be doing is make the pm feel comfortable standing in punching range and concentrating on landing scoring punches in sparring. Replicate a fight by having the other fighters sat ringside with the clicker counters scoring this sparring. This way everyone gets a good understanding of whats being scored and what the judges need to see rather than just the blind leading the blind.

[Scrap]

Cardio,is the most important aspect, of fitness. Heart is the highway to everything in the body, without cardio, not a lot will improve to apply everything else, from strength balance, explosive fitness or stamina and skill, the ability to apply skill and thought, without a high Vo2 max simple.

[red fox]

It seems as if more and more fighters are burning out/fatiguing in early stages of fights these days.

Do they spend most of their time in the gym and do "a little running here and there", thus underestimating its importance?

@Sleepwalker from what iv seen alot of it is to do with the trainers not understanding what the judges are looking for.

Iv been a judge in amateur and asked some coaches what they think we need to see. They told me that the punches have to knock the head back!! Thats rubbish. As a judge you are looking for punches that have had effort put in them and not just a pawing jab. Those punches also need to land with the knuckle on the scoring area.

They are teaching their fighters to put everything in to every punch so they come out like Mike Tyson in the first round and blow themselves out. They load up on everything and inevitably most of it doesnt land or score anyway amd they are exhausted for the rest of the fight.

Some of this also comes from not being taugt defense enough. Lots of people who call the,selves trainers like to replicate what they have seen on telly with Mayweather and Pacquiao on the pads and they think this makes them good trainers.

Their fighters are not confident in their ability to defend against punches and will not stand in punching range. They launch themselves with loaded up punches and it just looks messy, tires them and gets them no where on the scoring.

What they should be doing is make the pm feel comfortable standing in punching range and concentrating on landing scoring punches in sparring. Replicate a fight by having the other fighters sat ringside with the clicker counters scoring this sparring. This way everyone gets a good understanding of whats being scored and what the judges need to see rather than just the blind leading the blind.

Well I'm on the national team and every coach/trainer who I have seen teaches fighters to rest your gloves on your chin and lift the elbows. Think of an elastic band how it goes out slowly and comes back quickly. Now if a fighter has elasticity hooks are going to land on his gloves and if his punches are short (6 inches) straight punches from the opponent won't get through. There's no need to turn the left shoulder or head movement or even foot movement for that. Therefore running won't help make your legs strong.

[Scrap]

It seems as if more and more fighters are burning out/fatiguing in early stages of fights these days.

Do they spend most of their time in the gym and do "a little running here and there", thus underestimating its importance?

@Sleepwalker from what iv seen alot of it is to do with the trainers not understanding what the judges are looking for.

Iv been a judge in amateur and asked some coaches what they think we need to see. They told me that the punches have to knock the head back!! Thats rubbish. As a judge you are looking for punches that have had effort put in them and not just a pawing jab. Those punches also need to land with the knuckle on the scoring area.

They are teaching their fighters to put everything in to every punch so they come out like Mike Tyson in the first round and blow themselves out. They load up on everything and inevitably most of it doesnt land or score anyway amd they are exhausted for the rest of the fight.

Some of this also comes from not being taugt defense enough. Lots of people who call the,selves trainers like to replicate what they have seen on telly with Mayweather and Pacquiao on the pads and they think this makes them good trainers.

Their fighters are not confident in their ability to defend against punches and will not stand in punching range. They launch themselves with loaded up punches and it just looks messy, tires them and gets them no where on the scoring.

What they should be doing is make the pm feel comfortable standing in punching range and concentrating on landing scoring punches in sparring. Replicate a fight by having the other fighters sat ringside with the clicker counters scoring this sparring. This way everyone gets a good understanding of whats being scored and what the judges need to see rather than just the blind leading the blind.

Well I'm on the national team and every coach/trainer who I have seen teaches fighters to rest your gloves on your chin and lift the elbows. Think of an elastic band how it goes out slowly and comes back quickly. Now if a fighter has elasticity hooks are going to land on his gloves and if his punches are short (6 inches) straight punches from the opponent won't get through. There's no need to turn the left shoulder or head movement or even foot movement for that. Therefore running won't help make your legs strong.

Why not.

[red fox]

It seems as if more and more fighters are burning out/fatiguing in early stages of fights these days.

Do they spend most of their time in the gym and do "a little running here and there", thus underestimating its importance?

@Sleepwalker from what iv seen alot of it is to do with the trainers not understanding what the judges are looking for.

Iv been a judge in amateur and asked some coaches what they think we need to see. They told me that the punches have to knock the head back!! Thats rubbish. As a judge you are looking for punches that have had effort put in them and not just a pawing jab. Those punches also need to land with the knuckle on the scoring area.

They are teaching their fighters to put everything in to every punch so they come out like Mike Tyson in the first round and blow themselves out. They load up on everything and inevitably most of it doesnt land or score anyway amd they are exhausted for the rest of the fight.

Some of this also comes from not being taugt defense enough. Lots of people who call the,selves trainers like to replicate what they have seen on telly with Mayweather and Pacquiao on the pads and they think this makes them good trainers.

Their fighters are not confident in their ability to defend against punches and will not stand in punching range. They launch themselves with loaded up punches and it just looks messy, tires them and gets them no where on the scoring.

What they should be doing is make the pm feel comfortable standing in punching range and concentrating on landing scoring punches in sparring. Replicate a fight by having the other fighters sat ringside with the clicker counters scoring this sparring. This way everyone gets a good understanding of whats being scored and what the judges need to see rather than just the blind leading the blind.

Well I'm on the national team and every coach/trainer who I have seen teaches fighters to rest your gloves on your chin and lift the elbows. Think of an elastic band how it goes out slowly and comes back quickly. Now if a fighter has elasticity hooks are going to land on his gloves and if his punches are short (6 inches) straight punches from the opponent won't get through. There's no need to turn the left shoulder or head movement or even foot movement for that. Therefore running won't help make your legs strong.

Why not.

My trainer says that it comes to fibre muscles endurance is activates muscle fibre 1. Fibre 2. Is the fast twitch which is activated by weight and resistance exercises not by running.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EKpRKcSb2OQ

[Scrap]

It seems as if more and more fighters are burning out/fatiguing in early stages of fights these days.

Do they spend most of their time in the gym and do "a little running here and there", thus underestimating its importance?

@Sleepwalker from what iv seen alot of it is to do with the trainers not understanding what the judges are looking for.

Iv been a judge in amateur and asked some coaches what they think we need to see. They told me that the punches have to knock the head back!! Thats rubbish. As a judge you are looking for punches that have had effort put in them and not just a pawing jab. Those punches also need to land with the knuckle on the scoring area.

They are teaching their fighters to put everything in to every punch so they come out like Mike Tyson in the first round and blow themselves out. They load up on everything and inevitably most of it doesnt land or score anyway amd they are exhausted for the rest of the fight.

Some of this also comes from not being taugt defense enough. Lots of people who call the,selves trainers like to replicate what they have seen on telly with Mayweather and Pacquiao on the pads and they think this makes them good trainers.

Their fighters are not confident in their ability to defend against punches and will not stand in punching range. They launch themselves with loaded up punches and it just looks messy, tires them and gets them no where on the scoring.

What they should be doing is make the pm feel comfortable standing in punching range and concentrating on landing scoring punches in sparring. Replicate a fight by having the other fighters sat ringside with the clicker counters scoring this sparring. This way everyone gets a good understanding of whats being scored and what the judges need to see rather than just the blind leading the blind.

Well I'm on the national team and every coach/trainer who I have seen teaches fighters to rest your gloves on your chin and lift the elbows. Think of an elastic band how it goes out slowly and comes back quickly. Now if a fighter has elasticity hooks are going to land on his gloves and if his punches are short (6 inches) straight punches from the opponent won't get through. There's no need to turn the left shoulder or head movement or even foot movement for that. Therefore running won't help make your legs strong.

Why not.

My trainer says that it comes to fibre muscles endurance is activates muscle fibre 1. Fibre 2. Is the fast twitch which is activated by weight and resistance exercises not by running.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EKpRKcSb2OQ

Dont think you grasp what He is actually saying, let me know when you do.

[greynotsoold]

@red fox

[red fox]

@red fox

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[greynotsoold]

What are you talking about?

[red fox]

What are you talking about?

Rest your gloves on your the sides of the chin and lift the elbows! Bend the knees to protect against body punches!

[greynotsoold]

What are you talking about?

Rest your gloves on your the sides of the chin and lift the elbows! Bend the knees to protect against body punches!

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