Scott v Joshua

[ross]

I don't think Arreola or Stiverne are any more credible than Malik Scott is right now, or any more likely to ask any serious questions of AJ, honestly. I understand the Wilder fight makes Scott look useless and AJ looks more than capable of doing him in the same style, but where does this idea that Arreola is still a good fighter come from? He would be a heavy bag for Joshua at best.

Yeah hes struggling and getting hurt with everyone now. Stiverne is only rated off his wins over Arreola and got dropped himself recently, hes been stopped before also. They do have name value and will make any contender look good. They wont really be threat though.

[erics44]

arreola or stiveren would be a good defence for AJ, nothing wrong with that

and scott may well be every bit as good s those two but his fights against chiz and wilder make it a less credible defence

least the other two would take a bit of batter before falling over

[Silkeyjoe]

This is how I see it. Malik Scott is nowhere in the IBF rankings, so f he is AJ's next fight, it's probably a voluntary. Not unlike Sky/Matchroom did with Brook fighting Gavin. Obviously yet another piss take, and if they make it PPV at Wembley like they've been hinting , fans should vote with their wallets , especially in light of the other fight on Box Nation on the same night.
If he has to fight a mandatory , then surely the IBF should make him fight the Takam/Parker winner within 90 days, as they are next in line in their rankings. Failing that the next 2 in the rankings are Chisora and Pulev, so the winner fights AJ. I don't know how bad Glazkov's Knee injury is, but there is another possibility as he was unlucky to lose his shot in that manner.
My real worry isn't so much that he fights Scott, it's that he keeps fighting stiffs and Sky/Matchroom keep conning the public.

Scott would still need to be in the IBFs rankings to be a voluntary.

The amount of money the IBF will make from his fights theyd let him fight me if Hearn wants

[Silkeyjoe]

Forget Scott!

AJ needs to fight someone who will go rounds with him.

Arreleo is a good shout.

Stiverne will take AJ the distance.

Agree completely with those two fighters as choices to help him grow and gain credibility as THE champion eventually.

Scott is an ok, passable choice for a voluntary defense. Once.

These 2 are complete puddings now. Seriously lads get a grip. Chisora would be a tougher test than these guys now.

[Primo Carnera]

Forget Scott!

AJ needs to fight someone who will go rounds with him.

Arreleo is a good shout.

Stiverne will take AJ the distance.

Agree completely with those two fighters as choices to help him grow and gain credibility as THE champion eventually.

Scott is an ok, passable choice for a voluntary defense. Once.

These 2 are complete puddings now. Seriously lads get a grip. Chisora would be a tougher test than these guys now.

bit of a stretch , but I take your point.

[Master]

Stiverne and Arreleo would be better than Chisora who looks like a pudding.

[erics44]

Stiverne and Arreleo would be better than Chisora who looks like a pudding.

id like to see chiz in with any of them two, would be an interesting fight

[Master]

Stiverne and Arreleo would be better than Chisora who looks like a pudding.

id like to see chiz in with any of them two, would be an interesting fight

I think Chisora has nothing left to offer and is not even a gate keeper after his performance against Fury. It was awful.

[erics44]

Stiverne and Arreleo would be better than Chisora who looks like a pudding.

id like to see chiz in with any of them two, would be an interesting fight

I think Chisora has nothing left to offer and is not even a gate keeper after his performance against Fury. It was awful.

yes he did look shot that day

[Master]

Stiverne and Arreleo would be better than Chisora who looks like a pudding.

id like to see chiz in with any of them two, would be an interesting fight

I think Chisora has nothing left to offer and is not even a gate keeper after his performance against Fury. It was awful.

yes he did look shot that day

Chisora may have been carrying an injury that day but his recent outings have not shown me can achieve the heights of his fight with Helenius which was years ago. In fact he has lived far too long from that fight as well as the one with Vitali.

[ross]

Think youll find anyone is going to look awful against a 6,9" skilled fighter

Chisora depending on how he does against Pulev is at least on equal terms with Arreola and Stverne currently who have both looked worse than Chisroa has recently.

[Master]

Think youll find anyone is going to look awful against a 6,9" skilled fighter

Chisora depending on how he does against Pulev is at least on equal terms with Arreola and Stverne currently who have both looked worse than Chisroa has recently.

We shall see what Chisora has left. If he beat Pulev then fair enough he is not as shot as I think he is.

[Silkeyjoe]

Stiverne and Arreleo would be better than Chisora who looks like a pudding.

id like to see chiz in with any of them two, would be an interesting fight

I think Chisora has nothing left to offer and is not even a gate keeper after his performance against Fury. It was awful.

yes he did look shot that day

Chisora may have been carrying an injury that day but his recent outings have not shown me can achieve the heights of his fight with Helenius which was years ago. In fact he has lived far too long from that fight as well as the one with Vitali.

Id imagine Master that living in England youve seen more of Chisoras recent fights then Stiverne and Arreola.

Arreolas last 3 fights have been against Kauffman, Kassi and Harper and has looked muck in all 3. He also failed a drug test after his latest. I dont believe a drug cheat should be rewarded with a career high pay day against Joshua in a fight he would last 2 or 3 rounds in.

Stiverne, possibly not as bad as Arreola, went 10 with Derric Rossy and looked absolutely useless getting dropped in Round 1. This is a chap Audley stopped in prizefighter.

I honestly believe there is a massive gulf in class between US and European heavies at the moment. Apart from Wilder (who I think will be found out against Povetkin) the rest would all struggle at British level against guys like Chisora, Whyte and Price let alone AJ, Haye or Fury. I dont even know who the US heavy hopes are? Your man Breazeale looks pretty average too (think people were saying him and Martin was a 50/50 before that got cancelled). Washington and Ruiz Jr are other unbeaten US fighters who never look world beaters when they fight.

[Silkeyjoe]

Think youll find anyone is going to look awful against a 6,9" skilled fighter

Chisora depending on how he does against Pulev is at least on equal terms with Arreola and Stverne currently who have both looked worse than Chisroa has recently.

We shall see what Chisora has left. If he beat Pulev then fair enough he is not as shot as I think he is.

But Pulev isnt shit so a good performance losing to him is nothing to be ashamed about.

[Primo Carnera]

Think youll find anyone is going to look awful against a 6,9" skilled fighter

Chisora depending on how he does against Pulev is at least on equal terms with Arreola and Stverne currently who have both looked worse than Chisroa has recently.

We shall see what Chisora has left. If he beat Pulev then fair enough he is not as shot as I think he is.

But Pulev isnt shit so a good performance losing to him is nothing to be ashamed about.

Yeah, he could put that on his ever growing list of "not shit" HW's that he's lost to.
Of course , the list of not shit HW's that he has beat is not quite so long.
And anyway, if Pulev did beat Chisora , wouldn't Pulev be ahead of Chisora in the reckoning for Fighting AJ? or doesn't it work like that, perhaps he's not British enough.