Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
Ha ha! how am I being paranoid ?
I think somebody who accuses somebody else of criticizing Wlad's whole career just because he was shit last time out is probably a better bet for paranoia.
I made a few observations and you came back in a hissy fit .
To Sum up, Wlad has had a great career, he was shit in his last fight, he probably has lost his desire, but has enough to beat a Browne , but no wish to fight the likes of Joshua IMO. I don't think that is classed as losing your bottle, I totally understand why a 40 year old would not want to risk his legacy further by losing to a Young buck and possibly getting beat up bad.
Wlad will beat Browne to become champion again, fight a mandatory or 2 and either will never fight AJ or Wilder to unify , (not because he's ducking, but because he has no need to.) and if he does fight one of them, he will lose or retire.
Yes, you're being paranoid. Saying Wlad has ducked big punchers paired with he was shit in his last fight seems to me like you're not dissing just one fight but a portion of Wladimir's career. Wlad has not ducked anybody, AJ and Wilder are young and inexperienced and holy shit Deontay Wilder just got done fighting Cris Arreola...in 2016, not 2009. Artur Szpilka, Johann Duhaupas, Eric Molina, Jason Gavern.....not exactly a Murderer's Row. Wilder has had almost 40 fights and you'd be hard pressed to find 10 guys who had a legitimate chance against Deontay. Not saying Deontay is bad, I'm saying he's not had the most dangerous of matches.....yeah but Wlad is the one with no intention to fighting Deontay? Dude, when Wlad was being begged by his brother to retire Wlad went out and fought an undefeated Sam Peter who at the time was looking damn near unbeatable. I don't think Wlad looks at any heavyweight out there and says to himself "Gee, I had better not fight that guy"....he was the heavyweight champion for a decade for a reason.
No wish to fight Joshua? Ok, I mean I don't know what Wlad is going to do, again, he has had a longer than usual layoff, longest of his career perhaps. Wlad fights twice a year typically, it's October his last fight was in November of 2015.....you think he might want to knock the ring rust off? I don't know. Maybe the numbers aren't to his liking, maybe the numbers aren't to Joshua's liking, who knows what the REAL hold up is, but I don't think a guy who was champion for a decade and has 68 professional fights under his belt is worried about who his opponent is....call it a hunch.
Why would Wlad's legacy be damaged if he lost to Anthony Joshua? #1 We as boxing fans have no idea what Anthony Joshua is going to become, he could remain undefeated for his entire career (unlikely, but it's still an attainable goal at this point). #2 Wlad is over the hill for a boxer, anything he achieves now is icing on the cake he has nothing to prove to anyone. It's like RJJ's career after losing to Tarver that doesn't undo what RJJ achieved in the sport his legacy isn't damaged.
I'm not so much attempting to defend Wlad as I'm playing Devils Advocate here. You think Wlad is ducking or avoiding or whatever, alright....I doubt that, but alright. You think he was shit in his last fight, I don't believe you'll find many INCLUDING Wlad who will disagree with that assessment. So the problem you have with my posts?? I don't know, do you want me to not respond? I can not respond if you don't like having to defend your opinion....but I kind of thought the forum was here for debate and discussion
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