Roman Gonzalez vs Srisaket Sor Rungvisai - full fight Video 2017 WBC
I was watching it live on my phone but I had to throw someone out of the club so I missed it. Didn't bother watching it again but I'm going to watch it later
Last edited by Tam Seddon; 03-23-2017 at 02:32 PM.
Ward arguably lost to Kovalev, most had Gonzalez winning his last fight. I agree we could lose 108 & 105 but the same could be said of 154. "do not have fear power as much" tell that to the guys fighting Inoue. You only have to look at 115 to see how competitive and stacked the division is.
Don't have to fear power? This is a nonsense argument. The very fight this thread was made about is between two geezers that had 80+% KO ratios. The whole reason weightclasses exist is to make FAIR fights between men generally the same size.
You might as well argue that all fights under heavyweight are pointless as no-one, no matter how talented, would beat a good heavyweight.
It also highlights what a complete and utter nonsense P4P is. Chocolatito loses a close, disputed decision, therefore is dropped from the no.1 spot. Ward wins a close, disputed decision yet is elevated in the rankings.
What top "P4P," great fighter has Crawford beat? None! His best wins are Beltran, Postol and Gamboa. Without even ripping apart their records, none are future hall of famers, they're solid world-class fighters between 135-140. That's it.
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I am not even really talking about who pound for pound best is anymore i am talking about which division are weaker in there pool of talent. We have no idea who is going to go to hall of fame Choco and as far as Crawford oppents he has beat there still not done with there career yet there are a lot of weaker guys who made the hall so i do not see your point there. Fenster saying who cares about pound for pound when this is your thread talking about a fighter being the pound for pound best.
Jesus fucking christ!!!
Just forget it mate. Yeah the little fellas are not as good as the little-big fellas who are better than the big-big fellas. Crawford is the bestest in the whole world. Done.
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Well thank Mr140 for keeping your thread alive fenster.
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I can never put my head around the idea that smaller divisions are less capable of carrying real power in the same league as heavies or below. Simply as they are hitting and being hit by fighters at same weight and not trying to knock over a 200 lb guy. The speed and delivery is obviously faster and any man vs an equal can punch with authority. Also a guy 115 isn't afforded the luxury of "unlimited" lbs or rehydrating to an additional 12-20 plus pounds like we see in more 'popular' divisions. Nearly every fighter comes in with some added weight sure but that much is near a fifth of their body weight.
I don't really understand where @Mr140 is coming from either. You can see talent and skill when you watch a fighter no matter what weight they are. Just because there might be more fighters in a certain division does not mean they will necessarily be more skilled than those in others. Just because you don't know a fighter does not mean he is unskilled. If you take your heavyweight top 10 and match it against the 115 top 10 it is clear to see that 115 is extremely deep with talent, while the heavies struggle to barely make 10. A fighter should be ranked on his accomplishments and against the opposition he faced.
Mr 140 is not alone in his disdain for the lower classes. Many boxing fans feel the same way (I don't). For some reason, the adage "bigger is better" seems to extend to boxing. But for me, I've seen way too many heavyweights who substitute raw power for skill and/or training, in the hopes one big shot can end their fights. I've seen way too many blubbery, lumbering heavyweights plod their way around. People like them, much in the same way Japanese love their sumos. Beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that stuff, I guess. For my money, give me an evenly matched pair of bantamweights, lightweights, or whatever. Plenty of stars have come out of those divisions. It's also cultural and national, I think. Most little guys are either Asian or Hispanic. So naturally U.S. fans don't care as much. There's the rare exception, such as Chocolatito, but again it's rare. Meanwhile, we've got uncoordinated, lazy oafs like Tyson Fury getting all the attention.
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