Why are PEDs viewed differentlt in boxing than say baseball?

[Alpha]

Guys like Virgil Hill and Holyfield get into the boxing hall of fame, when guys Bonds and Clements have thus far been shunned and never failed a test. Does boxing not even really care about PED's?

[Master]

Was Holyfield "officially" caught.

It does really destroy your confidence in boxers failing drug test, especially when you are a fan of theirs. So I tend to not believe it is true because it is more convenient that believing that most take PED.

I genuinely believe it should be a criminal offence because you intend to harm the opponent in front of you and taking PED means you are carrying a gun/knife into the fight.

[Alpha]

No Holyfield was not officially caught but that's what I'm saying. Bonds & Clements never failed a test either but have remained out of baseball's hall thus far.

[Master]

No Holyfield was not officially caught but that's what I'm saying. Bonds & Clements never failed a test either but have remained out of baseball's hall thus far.

I am sure Bonds and Clements can sue then.

[TitoFan]

No Holyfield was not officially caught but that's what I'm saying. Bonds & Clements never failed a test either but have remained out of baseball's hall thus far.

I am sure Bonds and Clements can sue then.

In Bonds' case the growth in body mass was HUGE, in comparison with earlier in his career. Hell.... his head alone probably doubled in size.

In addition, Bonds went from being a fast, nimble hitter for average.... to a behemoth home run hitter. It's all way too suspicious.

Also it was in an era when lots of baseball players were 'roiding.

Most telling was the change in Bonds' demeanor. He went from being somewhat friendly and approachable to being this surly dude, which everyone in baseball hated.

Personally, I'd hold him out of the HOF as long as possible.

[Kirkland Laing]

No Holyfield was not officially caught but that's what I'm saying. Bonds & Clements never failed a test either but have remained out of baseball's hall thus far.

I am sure Bonds and Clements can sue then.

In Bonds' case the growth in body mass was HUGE, in comparison with earlier in his career. Hell.... his head alone probably doubled in size.

In addition, Bonds went from being a fast, nimble hitter for average.... to a behemoth home run hitter. It's all way too suspicious.

Also it was in an era when lots of baseball players were 'roiding.

Most telling was the change in Bonds' demeanor. He went from being somewhat friendly and approachable to being this surly dude, which everyone in baseball hated.

Personally, I'd hold him out of the HOF as long as possible.

His head grew enormously. He looked like his bobblehead doll. I'm sure I read his cap size went up a couple of numbers. Lots of guys roided for a couple of years till they got a huge guaranteed contract and then stopped roiding the minute they signed it and their numbers immediately went to shit. Jason Giambi comes to mind.

Steroid use should be treated much more severely in boxing because in baseball you're hitting a ball, in boxing you're hitting somebody else's head. The thing is with boxing the people running it are interested in making money first and the sport aspect of it comes well down the list. If PEDs are meaning big ticket/PPV sellers are able to stay around for more fights then nobody gives a fuck about how they're doing it and nobody wants to catch them. If Vegas really wanted they could have brought in strong random testing protocols last century but they're only interested in making money so they don't.

[J_Undisputed]

Probably because boxing is an obscure non team sport in the grand scheme of money rolling national entertainment/ marketing platforms. The nfl, mlb, and nba are racking up huge bank on the marketing and merchandising alone. Boxing is not really exploring those markets. Mostly i think the lack of a central governing body/org who would have a marketing team and guidelines for sponsors, and image shaping would be integral for any guilt/ responsibility on behalf of the league.

The public reactions tell the tale: Bonds gets popped for roids and there are protests of hall of fame entry, people stop buying jerseys, people stop buying tickets, fans implore the team to bench him, the league to ban him, individual sponsors walk away (league gets a cut of that if the player appears in his uniform, or teams logos appear in the background, etc.) It becomes a public embarrassment for the sport, not to mention the teammates whose wins/ championships etc he tainted. The team doctors are investigated, etc. The collateral damage is huge.

Now lets say, holyfield gets popped. No team, no jerseys (maybe signed gloves, but the only people splitting that money are him and the merchant who set that up), His trainer maybe who can deny he knows anything. Without the constant required involvement of a doping agency employed by the central governing body of the sport, its all chalked up to individual errors in decision making. It's only after you've been caught and someones been injured that could maybe be prosecuted for a felonious assault or attempted murder etc. similar to a resto, james butler kind of situation. Otherwise, everyone who stood to make money off a win, made their money and probably spent it by the time the news gets out.

The fallout from the balco incident as far as how it landed on mosely vs. bonds shows the disparity