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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Golovkin is the outsider in this one. A thoroughly decent guy and a great fighter who has never got the paydays he deserved.
    I think he comes across very arrogant and full of his own hype
    He hasn’t deserved the big paydays because he hasn’t stepped up
    He could’ve gone to 168 and fought Ward (HBO would’ve paid him)
    Even Abraham or Froch would have been career high paydays for him
    Personally, I can’t wait to see Canelo beat this guy up and end the hype.
    You are taking the piss, if anyone is overhyped and protected it is Canelo.
    What? Canelo has beaten the far better fighters...

    Alfredo Angulo
    Shane Mosley
    Erislandy Lara
    Miguel Cotto
    Austin Trout
    Liam Smith
    Kermit Cintron
    Julio Cesar Chavez Jr

    The only good fighter Golovkin has beaten is Jacobs (barely)
    You'll bring up Brook but he was a welterweight (I didn't add Khan for that reason)
    I think Khan is better than Brook anyway but I'm sure you'll disagree.

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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

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    awe you two

    im hoping for a GGG Canelo @Master @Batman sandwich
    @erics44 do you remember that fight before when we were all gunna land at your mates house to watch it...what was his name?

    was it Kev or Nev or sommet like that?

    I'm sure it was your mate, I wanna watch the fight with him anyway, me and Primo were gunna supply the cocaine and hookers if I remember correctly.
    Yeah, and his missus had big tits!
    That's the badger

    @erics44 tell kev or nev that I'm round his for the fight, I'm a bit low on cash so if someone else supplies the birds and the coke I'll supply the marmite
    I just remembered, it was Nige !
    Well done Primo, I knew there was a reason we kept you around.

    That's the plan then, everyone except for Master is cordially invited to our Nige's
    ahh but which fight was it tho?

    I was out with nige last night couple of beers in the white horse
    Does not matter, Batman would be sitting in the corner with his book eating pizza when everyone else would have their heads buried in cocaine and tits.
    Sounds to me like @Master is sulking because he hasn't had an invite to Nige's party of the century.

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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

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    awe you two

    im hoping for a GGG Canelo @Master @Batman sandwich
    @erics44 do you remember that fight before when we were all gunna land at your mates house to watch it...what was his name?

    was it Kev or Nev or sommet like that?

    I'm sure it was your mate, I wanna watch the fight with him anyway, me and Primo were gunna supply the cocaine and hookers if I remember correctly.
    Yeah, and his missus had big tits!

    That's the badger

    @erics44 tell kev or nev that I'm round his for the fight, I'm a bit low on cash so if someone else supplies the birds and the coke I'll supply the marmite
    I just remembered, it was Nige !
    Well done Primo, I knew there was a reason we kept you around.

    That's the plan then, everyone except for Master is cordially invited to our Nige's
    ahh but which fight was it tho?

    I was out with nige last night couple of beers in the white horse
    Does not matter, Batman would be sitting in the corner with his book eating pizza when everyone else would have their heads buried in cocaine and tits.
    Sounds to me like @Master is sulking because he hasn't had an invite to Nige's party of the century.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    I'd favour Canelo over Jacobs.

    I think Jacob's was flattered a bit by Golovkin. I don't really think it was as close as many do and also think he benefited from Golovkin's forcing style which allowed him to look good in eye-catching bursts. Canelo fights at a much more safety first/sedate pace which would either force Jacobs to be more assertive or get blamed for being too negative.
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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    awe you two

    im hoping for a GGG Canelo @Master @Batman sandwich
    @erics44 do you remember that fight before when we were all gunna land at your mates house to watch it...what was his name?

    was it Kev or Nev or sommet like that?

    I'm sure it was your mate, I wanna watch the fight with him anyway, me and Primo were gunna supply the cocaine and hookers if I remember correctly.
    Yeah, and his missus had big tits!

    That's the badger

    @erics44 tell kev or nev that I'm round his for the fight, I'm a bit low on cash so if someone else supplies the birds and the coke I'll supply the marmite
    I just remembered, it was Nige !
    Well done Primo, I knew there was a reason we kept you around.

    That's the plan then, everyone except for Master is cordially invited to our Nige's
    ahh but which fight was it tho?

    I was out with nige last night couple of beers in the white horse
    Does not matter, Batman would be sitting in the corner with his book eating pizza when everyone else would have their heads buried in cocaine and tits.
    Sounds to me like @Master is sulking because he hasn't had an invite to Nige's party of the century.
    don't worry @Master, I might be able to get you a ticket
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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    By ticket you mean free ticket?
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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
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    awe you two

    im hoping for a GGG Canelo @Master @Batman sandwich
    @erics44 do you remember that fight before when we were all gunna land at your mates house to watch it...what was his name?

    was it Kev or Nev or sommet like that?

    I'm sure it was your mate, I wanna watch the fight with him anyway, me and Primo were gunna supply the cocaine and hookers if I remember correctly.
    Yeah, and his missus had big tits!

    That's the badger

    @erics44 tell kev or nev that I'm round his for the fight, I'm a bit low on cash so if someone else supplies the birds and the coke I'll supply the marmite
    I just remembered, it was Nige !
    Well done Primo, I knew there was a reason we kept you around.

    That's the plan then, everyone except for Master is cordially invited to our Nige's
    ahh but which fight was it tho?

    I was out with nige last night couple of beers in the white horse
    Does not matter, Batman would be sitting in the corner with his book eating pizza when everyone else would have their heads buried in cocaine and tits.
    Sounds to me like @Master is sulking because he hasn't had an invite to Nige's party of the century.
    don't worry @Master, I might be able to get you a ticket
    Nige doesn't even like you @erics44 he only puts up with you because he feels sorry for you

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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    how do you know? has he been slagging me behind my back?
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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Golovkin is the outsider in this one. A thoroughly decent guy and a great fighter who has never got the paydays he deserved.
    I think he comes across very arrogant and full of his own hype
    He hasn’t deserved the big paydays because he hasn’t stepped up
    He could’ve gone to 168 and fought Ward (HBO would’ve paid him)
    Even Abraham or Froch would have been career high paydays for him
    Personally, I can’t wait to see Canelo beat this guy up and end the hype.
    You are taking the piss, if anyone is overhyped and protected it is Canelo.
    What? Canelo has beaten the far better fighters...

    Alfredo Angulo
    Shane Mosley
    Erislandy Lara
    Miguel Cotto
    Austin Trout
    Liam Smith
    Kermit Cintron
    Julio Cesar Chavez Jr

    The only good fighter Golovkin has beaten is Jacobs (barely)
    You'll bring up Brook but he was a welterweight (I didn't add Khan for that reason)
    I think Khan is better than Brook anyway but I'm sure you'll disagree.
    GGG has fought better middleweights and that is where the fight will happen. That is all that matters.

    Canelo has barely beaten the good names on your list with help from hometown judges and cheating at the weight.
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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
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    Golovkin is the outsider in this one. A thoroughly decent guy and a great fighter who has never got the paydays he deserved.
    I think he comes across very arrogant and full of his own hype
    He hasn’t deserved the big paydays because he hasn’t stepped up
    He could’ve gone to 168 and fought Ward (HBO would’ve paid him)
    Even Abraham or Froch would have been career high paydays for him
    Personally, I can’t wait to see Canelo beat this guy up and end the hype.
    You are taking the piss, if anyone is overhyped and protected it is Canelo.
    What? Canelo has beaten the far better fighters...

    Alfredo Angulo
    Shane Mosley
    Erislandy Lara
    Miguel Cotto
    Austin Trout
    Liam Smith
    Kermit Cintron
    Julio Cesar Chavez Jr

    The only good fighter Golovkin has beaten is Jacobs (barely)
    You'll bring up Brook but he was a welterweight (I didn't add Khan for that reason)
    I think Khan is better than Brook anyway but I'm sure you'll disagree.
    The Lara win is comparable to the Jacobs win for GGG. People make the the same complaint about that win for Canelo that they do about GGG's over Jacobs, although I believe that Canelo and GGG beat them in close but comfortable decisions.

    The rest of Canelo's wins are no better or worse than GGG's. If anything, Canelo also has stayed away from punchers. GGG has not (see Lemiuex and Stevens); indicative that the Canelo braintrust might have questions about Canelo's durability. Makes sense considering Cotto's brother stunning Canelo at 154 back in the day. GGG hasn't been shook up in any fight.

    With that said, the speed of Brook clearly troubled GGG for a bit in their fight. Canelo is faster than Brook. Canelo's reflexes are better than Brook too.

    There is a blueprint to beat GGG and it requires size and good footwork. Jacobs was successful at boxing and moving albeit he too hit the canvas. Although an exceptional boxer, Canelo is flat footed, doesn't move exceptionally well, and isn't taller/bigger than GGG.

    The caveat here is whether the decline in GGG is genuine or a product of good competition. He's a 35 year old middleweight and drug-tested. At some point, he has to slow down a little bit.

    At the end of the day, it is a good, competitive fight. No way to think otherwise.

    Everything said, GGG faces Canelo in Vegas in front of a largely pro-Canelo crowd; it is tough to imagine GGG winning a decision. Safe bet therefore seems to be Canelo on the cards hedged with GGG by knockout.

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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    It's my mates 40th birthday next Saturday and I was expected to go.
    It's going to be an all day event with plenty of drinking.

    Unfortunately it'd cost me about £40 quid to get home in a taxi and there is no one that I can blag an overnight stay with...looks like I'm going to have to miss it which means I'll have to stay in and watch the fucking boxing all night...im absolutely devastated that I can't make it :-)

    In all fairness it could have been next door and I still wouldn't have gone, no fucking way am I missing this fight for anyone.

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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I'd favour Canelo over Jacobs.

    I think Jacob's was flattered a bit by Golovkin. I don't really think it was as close as many do and also think he benefited from Golovkin's forcing style which allowed him to look good in eye-catching bursts. Canelo fights at a much more safety first/sedate pace which would either force Jacobs to be more assertive or get blamed for being too negative.
    @Fenster is one of the more prolific posters at Saddo and I tend to agree with him. However, Canelo struggled a bit with Lara, and the style Jacobs was able to impose with some success on GGG was the same style Lara used with Canelo, and Jacobs walks into the ring weighing 180 pounds and has 3 inches in hight and more in reach on Lara. I don't see it.

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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    If anything, Canelo also has stayed away from punchers. GGG has not (see Lemiuex and Stevens)
    So Kirkland, Cotto, Cintron and Angulo all can’t punch?
    They all have very decent knockout percentages.

    Curtis Stevens is a big puncher based on what?
    I know HBO hyped him up before the GGG fight
    But let’s be honest, he’s just an average fighter.

    Lemieux is a decent puncher but who has he knocked out?
    Three of his last six fights have gone the distance.

    Jacobs punches hard than both Lemieux and Stevens IMO

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    GGG has fought better middleweights and that is where the fight will happen. That is all that matters.

    Canelo has barely beaten the good names on your list with help from hometown judges and cheating at the weight.
    Of course, he’s beaten the better fighters at 160
    He’s spent his whole career at middleweight.

    However, Alvarez beat Cotto, who beat Martinez
    Who was the Middleweight champion of the world.

    I don’t think Alvarez has ever cheated or been gifted a win
    The Lara fight was close but so was the Jacobs fight for GGG.

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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Forget the lineal nonsense, GGG is the true champion and Cotto and Saul both avoided fighting GGG for a simple reason that he would beat them.

    Now Canelo and GBP think that GGG is getting old and looked slow against Jacobs they feel confident that that they can win in Vegas.

    GGG is going to destroy Canelo.
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    Default Re: Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    GGG is going to destroy Canelo.
    Not a chance he might win a few rounds on workrate
    But he'll be out classed for most of it. Looking forward to the excuses
    I'm sure we'll hear loads from the GGG fans after their boy gets owned.

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