Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

[Batman]

I agree with almost everything Fenster said. I'm pretty sure he is stating what the trolls will say with "overrated Euro hype job" but my question to them is what does that make Canelo if GGG wins?

Maybe it's a question for Gamo. He is so sure Canelo wins and that it will be easy. Does GGG become his new hero or do we have to put him on suicide watch?

Waste of time, GaMo doesn't want a conversation with anyone so I wouldn't expect an answer from him.

[Fenster]

I agree with almost everything Fenster said. I'm pretty sure he is stating what the trolls will say with "overrated Euro hype job" but my question to them is what does that make Canelo if GGG wins?

Maybe it's a question for Gamo. He is so sure Canelo wins and that it will be easy. Does GGG become his new hero or do we have to put him on suicide watch?

Waste of time, GaMo doesn't want a conversation with anyone so I wouldn't expect an answer from him.

Like all trolls he's probably too busy dealing with the constant attention from Master (the daddy troll of repetitive multi-spam tosh) to converse with anyone else.

[powerpuncher]

This is easily the most significant boxing history fight in recent times.

Canelo, for all that hardcore/nerds think of him, is the biggest star in America (ignoring Floyd's sparring sessions), his TV numbers/PPV and gates (50,000 with no-names like Liam Smith) currently destroy everyone else (he's the only guy in town doing a million PPV buys and filling up Vegas casinos).

Golovkin will cement his place amongst the greats by having a "star" on his ledger. Hagler, Hopkins and to a lesser extent, being a Brit, Calzaghe, spent years as great dominant champions without a "star" name to make them crossover (they were all b-side too in their breakout fight). Golovkin wins he becomes a bonafide HOF all-time great, loses he is forever known as an overrated Euro hype job.

I think that results tend to make fights more significant. For example, if Canelo won, it could become a very significant fight. If GGG wins and Canelo never really makes it in the MW division then this fight turns into not much.

IMO ward vs Kovalev fight was much more significant. Both fighters were better than GGG and Canelo and IMO was for best fighter in the world.

[Fenster]

This is easily the most significant boxing history fight in recent times.

Canelo, for all that hardcore/nerds think of him, is the biggest star in America (ignoring Floyd's sparring sessions), his TV numbers/PPV and gates (50,000 with no-names like Liam Smith) currently destroy everyone else (he's the only guy in town doing a million PPV buys and filling up Vegas casinos).

Golovkin will cement his place amongst the greats by having a "star" on his ledger. Hagler, Hopkins and to a lesser extent, being a Brit, Calzaghe, spent years as great dominant champions without a "star" name to make them crossover (they were all b-side too in their breakout fight). Golovkin wins he becomes a bonafide HOF all-time great, loses he is forever known as an overrated Euro hype job.

I think that results tend to make fights more significant. For example, if Canelo won, it could become a very significant fight. If GGG wins and Canelo never really makes it in the MW division then this fight turns into not much.

IMO ward vs Kovalev fight was much more significant. Both fighters were better than GGG and Canelo and IMO was for best fighter in the world.

Beating a current "star" far outweighs the benefit of beating a legit threat when it comes to general historical significance.

Danny Jacobs may well be a far superior middleweight threat than Canelo, however, should Golovkin win it will be his standout dish. The fight people bring up first. Again, just look at the history of boxing - Hagler, Hopkins, Barrera, Lewis etc. I could name dozens of all-time greats remembered for their most high-profile wins not necessarily best.

Ward-Kovalev was much smaller in terms of it's appeal to the general boxing/sports fan. Seriously, this dwarfs it in terms of business (gate/TV numbers/worldwide appeal). You can probably argue it was between "better," higher rated fighters though. But that's personal preference.

[Mind_Wave]

I also believe that GGG will win this fight against Canelo.

The two fearsome fighters will meet in the ring on September 16, 2017 - ie this weekend. The fight will be held at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, America.


Thanks.

[Master]

I also believe that GGG will win this fight against Canelo.

The two fearsome fighters will meet in the ring on September 16, 2017 - ie this weekend. The fight will be held at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, America.


Thanks.

PK?

[GaMo]

Ward-Kovalev was much smaller in terms of it's appeal to the general boxing/sports fan. Seriously, this dwarfs it in terms of business (gate/TV numbers/worldwide appeal). You can probably argue it was between "better," higher rated fighters though. But that's personal preference.

I agree that Ward and Kovalev were both more accomplished as fighters but it lacked the excitement because of Ward’s negative style of fighting. Canelo has a crowd-pleasing style and GGG likes to come forward (he’s not hard to find) so people are expecting a good fight. Most people would rather see a great fight than a significant or important one which is dull.

I'd watch Canelo like a hawk. He's not used to fighting guys on a fair and level weight playing field. This is unknown territory for him. Watch for diuretics (tips from JCC Jr.), and other weight-related shenanigans. Everyone knows that Canelo could rightfully fight at 168 or even 175 if he wanted to. I see GGG-Canelo going pretty much like Fonfara-Chavez Jr.

Canelo looks naturally smaller than GGG when I’ve seen them face to face (like after the Chavez fight) Alvarez has spent most of his career at 154 and even went below that for the Mayweather fight so I don’t think he needs to cheat to make weight. He’s no light heavyweight! He’s only 5’9 which is very short even for a middleweight (he’s not as big as you make out) and I can’t remember him ever failing to make weight in a fight?

I agree with almost everything Fenster said. I'm pretty sure he is stating what the trolls will say with "overrated Euro hype job" but my question to them is what does that make Canelo if GGG wins?
Maybe it's a question for Gamo. He is so sure Canelo wins and that it will be easy. Does GGG become his new hero or do we have to put him on suicide watch?
If Canelo wins easy I'm getting the lottery numbers for next week from Gamo.

Golovkin isn’t a terrible fighter, in fact he’s a very good fighter but he’s spent most of his career fighting terrible fighters. Take Jacobs from his record and you’re left with a list of C- fighters.

If GGG somehow pulls off the miracle then I’ll give him credit. He won’t become my hero because I don’t enjoy his style and I think he’s a bit of a twat but I’ll give him credit for beating a Alvarez. It won’t happen though so it doesn’t matter. This fight won’t be close and Alvarez will win so your questions are irrelevant but I’m looking forward to being proven right.

[Master]

You do not like GGG action packed style and think he is a twat but like Floyd?

You are something else.

[GaMo]

You do not like GGG action packed style and think he is a twat but like Floyd?

You are something else.

GGG plods forward and throws slow punches, it’s all very predictable and it lacks creativity.

[Alpha]

Ward-Kovalev was much smaller in terms of it's appeal to the general boxing/sports fan. Seriously, this dwarfs it in terms of business (gate/TV numbers/worldwide appeal). You can probably argue it was between "better," higher rated fighters though. But that's personal preference.

I agree that Ward and Kovalev were both more accomplished as fighters but it lacked the excitement because of Ward’s negative style of fighting. Canelo has a crowd-pleasing style and GGG likes to come forward (he’s not hard to find) so people are expecting a good fight. Most people would rather see a great fight than a significant or important one which is dull.

I'd watch Canelo like a hawk. He's not used to fighting guys on a fair and level weight playing field. This is unknown territory for him. Watch for diuretics (tips from JCC Jr.), and other weight-related shenanigans. Everyone knows that Canelo could rightfully fight at 168 or even 175 if he wanted to. I see GGG-Canelo going pretty much like Fonfara-Chavez Jr.

Canelo looks naturally smaller than GGG when I’ve seen them face to face (like after the Chavez fight) Alvarez has spent most of his career at 154 and even went below that for the Mayweather fight so I don’t think he needs to cheat to make weight. He’s no light heavyweight! He’s only 5’9 which is very short even for a middleweight (he’s not as big as you make out) and I can’t remember him ever failing to make weight in a fight?

Alvarez generally tends to come in between 170 - 175 on fight night. I'm pretty sure he was 172 against Trout on the unofficial HBO scales.

[Master]

You do not like GGG action packed style and think he is a twat but like Floyd?

You are something else.

GGG plods forward and throws slow punches, it’s all very predictable and it lacks creativity.

So was Mike Tyson.

[Beanz]

You do not like GGG action packed style and think he is a twat but like Floyd?

You are something else.

GGG plods forward and throws slow punches, it’s all very predictable and it lacks creativity.

If he was that slow and predictable you would think one of the supposedly C-Level Fighters that litter his career would have been able to beat him ? If there is one thing he lacks it is certainly not creativity, that is just complete hokum. All the fighters he has faced are surprised at not only how quickly and efficiently he cuts down the ring but at the range of punches, often from weird angles they find themselves unable to defend against. When was the last time you saw somebody poleaxed by a left hook to the top of the head? (Rubio) and his jab and punch picking is often immaculate. The liver shot that bent Macklin in half the fact that he is always in position to throw fight ending shots from all kinds of angles would again suggest his footwork is exceptional and that he can put together combinations that unlock defenses. He is much better than you will ever give him credit for being.

[Alpha]

Perfectly said Beanz. To rational tho for some to comprehend. Logic does not seem a high priority for GaMo.

[erics44]

right im bored of talking about it now, im ready for the fight

[Master]

right im bored of talking about it now, im ready for the fight

If you talk too much about it you begin to doubt yourself and think maybe Canelo can win this.