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    Default Re: Errol Spence Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Here is a semi realistic progression towards a Spence vs Crawford showdown. Both of their next three fights

    Spence:
    Peterson
    Thurman
    D. Garcia

    Crawford:
    Collazo
    Horn
    Porter

    If both of them could make those fights all before 2019, then in 2019 we could have a mega fight.
    I think Thurman beats Spence but hopefully we'll find out
    I think that too but we are in the minority.
    Then we'll be set to win some money then when it happens

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    Default Re: Errol Spence Jr.

    Depends on Thurman's activity. Crawford could target the proposed Horn/ Vargas winner or Pac. Mikey might swoop in and snatch Pac.

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    Default Re: Errol Spence Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Here is a semi realistic progression towards a Spence vs Crawford showdown. Both of their next three fights

    Spence:
    Peterson
    Thurman
    D. Garcia

    Crawford:
    Collazo
    Horn
    Porter

    If both of them could make those fights all before 2019, then in 2019 we could have a mega fight.
    Like your program, but think Porter is a horrible match up for Crawford. He would make it an ugly fight and manhandle the smaller man, in my opinion. Think Crawford would match up better vs. Thurman or Garcia than Porter. Either way, I think Spence beats them all. Brook fought a great fight and it wasn't enough, so don't see any of the other guys having anything for him.
    I think that porter is an awkward matchup for most people because of his style. I think that Crawford could counter him with hard shots as he figured him out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Here is a semi realistic progression towards a Spence vs Crawford showdown. Both of their next three fights

    Spence:
    Peterson
    Thurman
    D. Garcia

    Crawford:
    Collazo
    Horn
    Porter

    If both of them could make those fights all before 2019, then in 2019 we could have a mega fight.
    I think Thurman beats Spence but hopefully we'll find out
    I think that too but we are in the minority.
    Then we'll be set to win some money then when it happens
    I honestly would be shocked if Thurman beat Spence.

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    Default Re: Errol Spence Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Here is a semi realistic progression towards a Spence vs Crawford showdown. Both of their next three fights

    Spence:
    Peterson
    Thurman
    D. Garcia

    Crawford:
    Collazo
    Horn
    Porter

    If both of them could make those fights all before 2019, then in 2019 we could have a mega fight.
    I think Thurman beats Spence but hopefully we'll find out
    I think that too but we are in the minority.
    Then we'll be set to win some money then when it happens
    I honestly would be shocked if Thurman beat Spence.
    Thurman has beaten Garcia, Porter and Guerrero
    Whereas Spence beat beaten Brook and Algieri.

    I can't see what makes Spence such a huge favorite

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    Default Re: Errol Spence Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
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    Here is a semi realistic progression towards a Spence vs Crawford showdown. Both of their next three fights

    Spence:
    Peterson
    Thurman
    D. Garcia

    Crawford:
    Collazo
    Horn
    Porter

    If both of them could make those fights all before 2019, then in 2019 we could have a mega fight.
    I think Thurman beats Spence but hopefully we'll find out
    I think that too but we are in the minority.
    Then we'll be set to win some money then when it happens
    I honestly would be shocked if Thurman beat Spence.
    Thurman has beaten Garcia, Porter and Guerrero
    Whereas Spence beat beaten Brook and Algieri.

    I can't see what makes Spence such a huge favorite
    His ability to judge distance and make opponents pay by setting traps and responding on the fly. Thurman does not even finish the fight on his feet if he meets Spence.
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    Default Re: Errol Spence Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    His ability to judge distance and make opponents pay by setting traps and responding on the fly.
    Against who His best win is against Brook
    And Brook isn't anything special. Thurman is a massive step up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    His ability to judge distance and make opponents pay by setting traps and responding on the fly.
    Against who His best win is against Brook
    And Brook isn't anything special. Thurman is a massive step up.
    Brook is better than Thurman IMO and Spence is a stylistic matchup problem for Thurman. Thurman has problems with people who throw a lot of punches and not let him get his punches off.

    Thurman only throws one punch at a time. He doesn't throw combinations. Spence will easily win rounds by just staying active. Thurman has shown he can be hurt to the head and body. I think Spence stops him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    His ability to judge distance and make opponents pay by setting traps and responding on the fly.
    Against who His best win is against Brook
    And Brook isn't anything special. Thurman is a massive step up.
    Brook is better than Thurman IMO and Spence is a stylistic matchup problem for Thurman. Thurman has problems with people who throw a lot of punches and not let him get his punches off.

    Thurman only throws one punch at a time. He doesn't throw combinations. Spence will easily win rounds by just staying active. Thurman has shown he can be hurt to the head and body. I think Spence stops him.
    You are making out Thurman is limited when he has beaten fighters that have the style that you claim would beaten him. Porter is very active and lost.
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    Default Re: Errol Spence Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Here is a semi realistic progression towards a Spence vs Crawford showdown. Both of their next three fights

    Spence:
    Peterson
    Thurman
    D. Garcia

    Crawford:
    Collazo
    Horn
    Porter

    If both of them could make those fights all before 2019, then in 2019 we could have a mega fight.
    Like your program, but think Porter is a horrible match up for Crawford. He would make it an ugly fight and manhandle the smaller man, in my opinion. Think Crawford would match up better vs. Thurman or Garcia than Porter. Either way, I think Spence beats them all. Brook fought a great fight and it wasn't enough, so don't see any of the other guys having anything for him.
    I think that porter is an awkward matchup for most people because of his style. I think that Crawford could counter him with hard shots as he figured him out.
    I think Porter will be the odd man out. He's hard to look good against and you could be risking cuts because of his approach. He takes away the room to punch which takes the polish off both spence and crawford. Which makes me feel the cold shoulder will send him north to 154.

    I'm not really sold on spence yet. Brook highlighted a few holes in his armor. Hes a likeable kid, and he's quite a technician for his age. I just don't see him as this unstoppable force yet and im not seeing the hunger (which seems to be a trend among hayman fighters)

    Thurman, loves to look good against outmatched opponents and he hits hard. Once he eats something he doesn't like, he loses his appetite and packs it in trying to pick from the outside at his leisure. I don't think spence allows him to do that and eventually finds him. Thurman sensing that, wont go down swingin' and becomes more flight than fight. Maybe claims injury afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    His ability to judge distance and make opponents pay by setting traps and responding on the fly.
    Against who His best win is against Brook
    And Brook isn't anything special. Thurman is a massive step up.
    Brook is better than Thurman IMO and Spence is a stylistic matchup problem for Thurman. Thurman has problems with people who throw a lot of punches and not let him get his punches off.

    Thurman only throws one punch at a time. He doesn't throw combinations. Spence will easily win rounds by just staying active. Thurman has shown he can be hurt to the head and body. I think Spence stops him.
    You are making out Thurman is limited when he has beaten fighters that have the style that you claim would beaten him. Porter is very active and lost.
    Thurman is like a less athletic Roy Jones. Not a ton of skillful fighting but athleticism brings him to the top. Thurman is super athletic but isn't the complete athletic freak that Jones was.

    I definitely think that Thurman is a good fighter and I like him. I just don't see him as an elite fighter whatsoever. Top 10 p4p? Perhaps. But a top 5? No way. Spence may not be there yet but he will get there soon I think

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    Default Re: Errol Spence Jr.

    Thurman is quiet as a mouse.

    If he wants these big paydays he needs to start making up some noise in the divison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
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    His ability to judge distance and make opponents pay by setting traps and responding on the fly.
    Against who His best win is against BrookAnd Brook isn't anything special. Thurman is a massive step up.
    Brook is better than Thurman IMO and Spence is a stylistic matchup problem for Thurman. Thurman has problems with people who throw a lot of punches and not let him get his punches off.Thurman only throws one punch at a time. He doesn't throw combinations. Spence will easily win rounds by just staying active. Thurman has shown he can be hurt to the head and body. I think Spence stops him.
    I like Thurman but I second that Brook is a better boxer than Thurman.Keith seems to find a way to win, do you can never count him out.Still I'd favor the body punching and talented Spence.

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    Default Re: Errol Spence Jr.

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Brook is better than Thurman IMO.
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    I second that Brook is a better boxer than Thurman.
    You what take Porter away from Kell's record and what's he done?
    Not to mention he quit in back to back fights in his own backyard!
    Thurman has beaten better and so far he's not lost (let alone quit)

    Brook probably wouldn't even beat Khan let alone Thurman
    In 13 years and after 38 fights, Brook has one good win on his record
    Thurman has had 10 less fights and has already beaten better and done more.

    Kell Brook is shit! I know there's a lot of Brits posting on here
    But come on guys let's be honest. Kell has fallen far short at elite level.

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    That is harsh on Kell, who is a very decent fighter and can hold his own against the top US fighters.

    Anyone at welterweight who steps in the ring with GGG would be damaged.
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