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MAYWEATHER & THE DUMBASSES
Man some of the guys that e-mail you are F-N idiots. I think your p4p list is pretty fair, Floyd knows who Margarito is, he's just scared s__tless to get in the ring with the "Bad Ass", Judah has a real good chance of whippin the Pretty Boy, and I'll also go on record on this: If Oscar really does fight Floyd in September Floyd will get put to sleep that night, without a doubt, now put that on the boards....I can't stand some of these dumbasses who act like they know s__t about boxing......Thanx and keep up the good work. – Stephen OK, Stephen. Take it easy, bra, its Floyd and Zab who are getting ready to fight, not you. (Jeez, I’m glad you agree with my pound-for-pound list; I’d be scared if you didn’t.)
I’ll say this about you, Steve, I admire your willingness to go on record with your prediction BEFORE the fight takes place. We’ll find out in a matter of days if Judah can erase all the inconsistency and failed expectations of his career with one victory. Then we can talk about those other fights.
NO. 1 POUND-FOR-POUND IDIOT
doug man come on. floyd #4. how many world champs have moved 2 weight classes in the past year or two, and won by ko? winky #1? wtf? he is a lazy ass one naded fighter who gets tirde late in fights, he is not fun to watch, ya he beat tito, but tito was off for ever before beating a terrible no style fighter like mayorga, and know he is #1? hmmmmm, who has he beat since, sma soliman? WOW, he should be #1, sam soliman is a espn2 friday night fights fighter, who was damn close to beating winky on the cards, so thats pretty pathetic!! am i wrong? ok he beat sugar shane, but shane is washed up and had been before winky fought him. tell me this, why is every fighter floyd fights and soanks, a good fighter before he fights them and a good fighter after he fights them, but when he dismantles them, they are s__tty fighters? floyds talent alone is #1, he is too well schooled, he has masterted his art. there is no way in hell a lazy one handed fighter like winky wright is EVER gonna beat floyd. floyd is #1 p4p, winky 2, i agree with that. and too say that 97 out of 100 people are wrong, and you in the 3% is right, odds arent with ya or those numbers so maybe ya should, stop hating and give floyd his props and not just try and be different and start a stupid ass controvesary. doug floyd at 4? that is so f__kin unlogical it makes you look stupid as f__k bro. get with the real program. publish this on you next free mailbag, id like to see what response i get from you, im really curious- thans – greg rowe, Colorado
Greg, I decided not to edit your email (except for bleeping out your curse words) to show your fellow fans how deranged and confused you truly are. Why would you criticize Wright’s recent competition (and even the competition of his competition) when Mayweather has fought the likes of Sharmba Mitchell and Henry Bruseles in the past 16 months? You’re just opening your legs for a swift kick in the balls. Are you ready to get them nads crushed?
All Winky has done in the last two years is unify the 154-pound division (and what division did PBF even partially unify?) and beat two fighters who were ranked inside of everybody’s top 15. Every single boxing writer, website and publication that says Floyd Mayweather is the no. 1 fighter, pound for pound, ranked Mosley in their top 10 before Winky beat his ass in that first fight; and they all – from Dan Rafael to Mike Katz to Steve Kim to Greg Leon – ranked Trinidad between 11 and 15, pound for pound, before Winky spanked the Puerto Rican icon. That’s TWO top 15 P4P players the Winkster defeasted. When was the last time Mayweather fought a guy ranked in anyone’s top 15? Oh yeah, I remember now, it was three and half years ago, some Mexican guy; WBC lightweight title holder, right? I seem to recall that dude getting’ in Pretty Boy’s ass during the second half of that fight. I don’t know about those scorecards after the fight, bro-hams. Four and five points for your boy? Naaaaaah….. Maybe Mayweather won it by ONE point. MAYBE! Maybe he lost it by a point or two. And the rematch? Ugh. Whole lot of nothin’. PBF didn’t remind me of Sugar Ray Leonard in there.
The fact that you have to ask me what other champs have moved up two weight classes and won by KO tells me that you’re not even paying attention to the sport and you have NO IDEA how good or bad Mayweather’s opponents are.
So what if a guy as talented as Mayweather moves up in weight and scores KOs? It doesn’t mean much if he’s going after hand-picked opposition. If Manny Pacquiao moved from 122 pounds to 126 and took on Manuel Medina and Derrick Gainer instead of Marco Antonio Barrera and Juan Manuel Marquez, his jump in weight wouldn’t have meant that much would it? (I know YOUR silly ass wouldn’t have given him any credit.) If Pac jumped from 126 to 130 to take on Mike Anchondo or Jorge Barrios instead of Erik Morales, it wouldn’t have meant as much would it? When Mayweather moved to 140 pounds in May of ’04, he didn’t take on Kostya Tszyu, the undisputed champ at the time, he fought former WBO title holder DeMarcus Corley. OK, that’s cool. Nice win. Then PBF beat Bruseles (who cares aside from you?) and Gatti (who had a title that was stripped from Tszyu). The Gatti win made Floyd a belt holder at 140, and probably the top contender, but not the champ. He didn’t beat “the man”; he didn’t beat a top five pound for pound guy, get it? (Probably not.)
I know Mayweather looked great smashing Gatti at 140 pounds, but does that compare with what Pac did at featherweight? I don’t think so. Pacquiao went up in weight to fight the universally recognized champ at 126 (Barrera) and he destroyed him. Pac followed up by taking on JMM, who held two alphabet titles. To equal what Pac did at featherweight, PBF would have had to take on Tszyu in his first fight at 140 (and destroy him), and then fight a top-ranked title holder at the time (Zab Judah or Vivian Harris). After the Marquez fight, Pac jumped to 130 pounds and fought Morales. To equal that, Mayweather would have had to go from 140 to 147 and take on a big, strong battle tested badass like Antonio Margarito; he didn’t do that. PBF fought Sharmba Mitchell. If Mayweather took on Margarito at 147 and lost (the way Pac did vs. Morales in their first fight) I would have given him more credit than I did for his victory vs. Mitchell. If Mayweather KO’d Margarito in a rematch the way Pac did vs. ‘El Terrible’, I would have jumped PBF to no. 1.
There’s a reason I have Wright and the PacMonster in my first two P4P slots and not your hero. (And you still probably don’t understand why.) Honestly, he’s lucky to be at no. 4 on my list. It’s only because of my respect for his truly special blend of natural talent, dedication to his craft and his past accomplishments that I even have him in my top 5.
NOT ANOTHER NUT-HUGGER -- REALLY!
Doug again congrats for the site, I never got the T but hey!!
We've exchanged e-mails before always a pleasure, you take the time and I appreciate that and what is more is that I respect your opinions and angles on boxing! You bring out the best and worst of us in this "sanguine" sport where tempers can flare as in nothing else in the world. Besides Soccer in Europe no other sport brings so much emotion and involvement then boxing!!
Enough praises lol!
I don't know what went down with the negotiations between Hatton and PBF, but Mayweather would totally expose Hatton and the fight would be stopped on cuts by the 10th max.
And Margarito?? I think it would be easier then Hatton, much easier, lets face it Corrales I love the dude but he's a stiff no lateral movements there to be hit. A proud warrior indeed "take it dish it". Mayweather destroyed him 5 knockdowns etc...
This is not a nuthuggin fest on my part, just that Hatton is gettin a paycheck then he knows he will have to face Floyd he will never touch him!! It's not Mayweather's fault if Judah lost his last fight!
He will never turn down anyone noway. And let me ask this question:
How come no promoters is actually using this situation to publicly challenge Mayweather's integrity in the sense of calling him out like in the old days!! I tell you why cuz they are milking, they get a pay day with Hatton maybe another fight then Floyd destroys him easy. Simple as that!
Much love and respect! – Denis, MontrealDenis, I don’t think you’re nut-hugger but I don’t think you understand how added weight and styles impact fights. It’s silly to compare Corrales to Margarito. Mayweather fought Chico at 130 pounds, his prime weight. If PBF fights Margarito it will be at 147 pounds. Believe me, his punches won’t have the effect on Tony that they had on Mitchell (and will probably have on Judah). And more to the point, Margarito doesn’t fight like at all like Corrales! Chico is a stalker who looks for one big shot and doesn’t cut off the ring. Margarito is a volume-punching pressure fighter, who actually has a jab! It’s a different fight! Mayweather’s fought one true pressure fighter in his career – Jesus Chavez. I thought he looked awesome in that bout, but it sure wasn’t an easy win. That makes me wonder what would happen if he took on a strong young man like Hatton, who has a good chin, knows how to close the gap and cut off the ring, and puts on even more pressure and throws more punches than Chavez did at 130 pounds. I think it’s an even fight, same with Margarito. I’m not saying Mayweather can’t win both bouts, but I don’t think he’ll do it easy – and that’s why I want to see those two fights.
PPV ON THE INTERNET
dougie,
im going to be in colombia MO doing some dent repair and im afraid im going to miss the mayweather judah fight. Is there anyway i can watch it over the internet?? Please let me know. If you could respond back to my email if you wouldnt mind. Also, who do u like? I have to lean towards Mayweather for a couple of reasons. One: hes never really been hurt. He has a good beard. Two: he may very well have hands just as fast as judah. Three: Judah has to fight a perfect fight. One mistake and he will get tko'd. The only way judah wins this fight is land a big punch or box like he did against spinks in the rematch. Four: and my final point. Judah is considered the bigger puncher of the two, but judah's chin is going to make mayweather the boss in the ring and i guarantee he's going to hit zab. Ironically, im pulling for judah. But i believe that mayweather is going to be our generations Sugar Ray.
love your site. and im extremely jealous. im a rabid boxing fan among no fans of the sport. i have never been to a pro fight. i bought tickets to the castillo v corrales rubbermatch and of course, my man got hurt. I have always disliked mayweather for destroying my boy chico. mayweather really made a name for himself after that fight and has had my attention every since. thanks for your time. – jackie hill, dent magic, san angelo, txThere’s no way to watch the fight on the Net, Jackie, but there might be a bar or club in town that is carrying the fight. Columbia is a college town (home of Mizzou and a darn good journalism masters program) so there are a lot of sports bars that you can call up and check on. If not, maybe someone you know in town will be willing to buy the PPV if you pay for it (or at least go in with them and bring some beer).
THE OTHER DOUGIE
I read all the major sites and I have been reading them for awhile, out of all of them you’re my favorite writer. Although some of the stuff you say I don't agree with (Jeremy Williams beating Roy Jones, or a completely untested Valero knocking out Morales) I do agree with most.
I got PBF 3rd on my P4p list ahead of Barrera. You can find me in the boxingtalk chat rooms giving him s__t about his competition every Monday. I usually go under the neme rocbox, but last week i went under your name it was fun i was s__tin on those floyd cheerleaders. I was surprised in your mailbag that you didn't mention Kosta Tysu as someone Floyd should of fought. I am in law school right now studying entertainment law and plan on becoming the next Bob Arum, so I'm confident our paths will cross some day. I have a friend doing a lot of the leg work for me right now establishing a lot of contacts for when the time comes. Peace – Jon
So YOU’RE the imposter Dougie! Stop that you rascal! I don’t need any extra beef with the Pretty Boys or the good folks over at BoxingTalk.
I have mentioned Kostya Tszyu as a fighter I would have loved to see Floyd take on (along with Joel Casamayor, Acelino Freitas, and Steve Johnston) in the past. By the way, I still think J-Will could have zapped RJ at cruiser or heavyweight, and that my son could have taken out El Terrible. Good luck with law school.
DOUGIE ON BT
Dougie –
I have been a member of Max for about 3-4 years and it is the premium site on boxing. However, I always venture to some of the other sites (especially the interview one - BTalk). I came across a chat transcript with Bob Arum and one of the posters had your name and asked the following question:
douglas_fishcer: In a beyond the glory interview you said Roy Jones was the best fighter of this era. Now you claim Mayweather’s the best. Can I assume you a bias b/c you are his promoter? I remember you saying Cotto would chase him (PBF) out of the ring.
Arum responded saying RJ was the best of his era but Floyd has blossomed. He continued to state that Floyd is the best since Ali… high praise indeed.
Two questions:
1. Was that you at Btalk?
2. Is Floyd the best since Ali?
I continue to wish you success with the site. – AC1. No.
2. HELL no!
I don’t think I’ve even been on a MaxBoxing chat. I guess I have fans who like to chat with promoters on BoxingTalk. It’s all good. If I ever did participate in a chat with Bob Arum I wouldn’t bother with such a naïve question. Bob’s a promoter, he says what ever is necessary to hype a particular boxing event that he’s involved with. When Oscer De La Hoya was his franchise player, the Golden Boy was as great as Hagler, Leonard, Hearns, etc. I know that he knows better. Bob has a brilliant business AND boxing mind.
I’ll say this about Mayweather and Ali; PBF has a more complete boxing game and better technique than “the Greatest” possessed, but he is not cut from the same mold. I don’t think he’s as tough as Ali, and despite his constant bravado, I don’t believe he has the same level of self-belief as the former three-time heavyweight champ had – but then, who does?
WHY IS MAXBOXING HATIN’ SO MUCH?
Dougie:
Just wanted to chime in on the lack of enthusiasm for the Mayweather-Judah bout on April 8. I feel like asking "what seems to be the problem here?". Is Judah not the fastest fighter that Mayweather has EVER fought? Doesn't he have explosive KO power and loads of natural ability?
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