Wow! Andre Ward retires!

[sanatogen]

I get the feeling that most of the people posting here are white British which is why Calzaghe is being ranked so highly. If he was African American he'd be getting just as much shit as Ward and Floyd (do on here) but people are bias. Anyone with any sense knows a prime Jones completely embarrasses any version of Calzaghe.

Don't go trusting your feelings then. If Joe Calzaghe was African American he would not be Joe Calzaghe would he? Ward and Floyd don't get shit because they are American or because they are black, there are scores of Black and American fighters whom people love. Floyd was great but he along with Ward is a bit of a dick. You can be born anywhere and still be a dick, which is how you mange despite being British.

Exactly! I cant wait to see how Rigondeaux performs in December. Finally a match worth of his talents is being made.

[mrbig1]

Smart move to retire. Good luck.

[GaMo]

Joe could have fought Ottke but the fight never happened. Both are to blame for that

Joe was at the end of his career and fought 2 legends which looks better on his record than Froch. If Joe beat him people like you would have said he was "green" and too early in Carl's career.

Hopkins fight was very close.
Hopkins would have got the nod if it wasn't for the white boy comment..then again, that comment made the fight.

Jones was done in the game and picking up pay checks...

Put the same Jones that fought Clinton woods against JC and you really think he would have lost?!

Triple jabs, double uppercuts, jumping uppercuts and hooks, stance switching and did we mention his counterpunch skills?!

Jones in his prime was a cartoon superhero with so many different attributes.

JC had fast hands and a heart full of Duracell but "timing" beats speed.

JC has to be one of the best at 168 (ever!) but lets really breakdown the facts before we put him above a prime Jones Jr.

Exactly! An old washed up Jones put Calzaghe down so imagine what he would've done to him in his prime.

[Master]

Joe could have fought Ottke but the fight never happened. Both are to blame for that

Joe was at the end of his career and fought 2 legends which looks better on his record than Froch. If Joe beat him people like you would have said he was "green" and too early in Carl's career.

Hopkins fight was very close.
Hopkins would have got the nod if it wasn't for the white boy comment..then again, that comment made the fight.

Jones was done in the game and picking up pay checks...

Put the same Jones that fought Clinton woods against JC and you really think he would have lost?!

Triple jabs, double uppercuts, jumping uppercuts and hooks, stance switching and did we mention his counterpunch skills?!

Jones in his prime was a cartoon superhero with so many different attributes.

JC had fast hands and a heart full of Duracell but "timing" beats speed.

JC has to be one of the best at 168 (ever!) but lets really breakdown the facts before we put him above a prime Jones Jr.

Exactly! An old washed up Jones put Calzaghe down so imagine what he would've done to him in his prime.

Roy is a great and prime Jones beats Joe but Jones put him down with a forearm and was completely outclassed in the fight.