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    There is a great irony that while the US essentially invented modern industry policy, many there still view it as a dangerous subject. Under Alexander Hamilton, founder of America’s first national bank, politicians directed US industrialisation. Presidents including Kennedy also supported a state role in directing capital flows. But since Reagan, trickle-down and laissez-faire have ruled, despite evidence markets do not allocate capital to the most productive places. There is a sense that monetary policy can no longer support US growth, and that the country may be heading for a recession. The private sector is uninterested in low return public infrastructure projects, or investment in education and training needed to bolster underlying growth in the real economy. This has made government-led industrial policy a major topic on the Democratic presidential campaign trail, with candidates such as Senator Elizabeth Warren advocating for some modern industrial planning. Ms Warren points out that despite distrust around state planning, which is viewed by many Americans as dangerously “socialist”, the US government already does make economic choices. For example, it has chosen to support a debt-driven, two-speed economy rather than one that prioritises income and industry. Ms Warren’s response would be to create a new “Department of Economic Development,” to increase federal funding for core research. It would ensure companies that benefit would manufacture in the US, especially if they plan to sell to government. Taxpayers would receive a cut of corporate profits from state funding. The workforce would also be better trained as part of the effort to build a worker-led economy, not a consumer-led one. Other liberals such as Joe Biden and Kirsten Gillibrand are also considering adopting aspects for their own platforms. But interest stretches beyond the Democratic party to some members of the GOP. In May, Senator Marco Rubio, chair of the Senate small business committee, issued a report on the challenges to capital investment in the US. The report acknowledged that capital markets were no longer helping non-financial business and that the policy of putting shareholders’ priorities above all else should stop. It suggested that public policy could play a role in directing capital to more productive places — Main Street, not Wall Street. None of this implies an easy bipartisan solution. Republicans and Democrats alike agree that the country desperately needs better infrastructure, but cannot agree on how to pay for it. Still, the fact that some important conservatives like Mr Rubio are now willing to concede that the market system simply is not serving American business is a real sea change. The question now is how to ensure that a strategy to boost jobs at home does not become a zero-sum effort that would further alienate allies abroad, or trigger more nationalism and protectionism. Ms Warren’s own plan for “economic patriotism” includes some misguided measures, such as allowing for currency manipulation. As the events of the past few weeks have shown, both trade and currency wars are a losing proposition for all of those involved in them. Simply copying parts of President Trump’s “America first” rhetoric is not a winning strategy for Democrats, either politically or economically. Their presidential candidates in particular need to articulate a plan that can connect the dots between domestic job creation, trade and more constructive foreign policy. The future of the US, and the world economy, depends on it.





    This is the editorial in the Financial Times today. Truly things are changing in the world.

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    Russian intelligence agents working in New York City met with Carter Page, a one-time foreign-policy adviser to President Donald Trump, and attempted to recruit the business consultant as a spy in 2013.
    While the effort was ultimately unsuccessful as the FBI broke up the spy ring in 2015, the meetings between Page and the Russian intelligence officers constitute one of the most substantive ties to date between a member of the Trump camp and Russian intelligence. Those meetings will likely add to the urgency of the multiple ongoing investigations of the administration’s ties to Moscow and the campaign’s possible coordination with Russian intelligence to tip the election in Trump’s favor.
    In a 2015 complaint describing the FBI’s investigation of the spy ring, Page is only identified as “Male-1.” BuzzFeed first reported that Page is the business consultant in question, and he has confirmed it.
    The new revelations will almost certainly mean more scrutiny for Page, an otherwise obscure figure who catapulted to prominence last year after Trump said the former investment banker was advising the campaign.
    In 2013, though, Russian intelligence took a dim view of Page. In the 2015 complaint that details an FBI investigation into a three-man Russian spy ring, the foreign agents describe their attempt to recruit Page, describing him as an ambitious climber eager to make money in Russia’s energy sector.
    “He got hooked on Gazprom,” Victor Podobnyy, an officer of the SVR, Russia’s foreign intelligence agency, told his boss, Igor Sporyshev. “It’s obvious that he wants to earn lots of money.”
    Podobnyy, officially an attaché to the Russian mission of the U.N., told the Page that he would work with Sporyshev, as Russia’s trade representative in New York, to win contracts for Page. “He went to Moscow and forgot to check his inbox, but he wants to meet when he gets back,” Podobnyy told Sporyshev on April 8, 2013. “I think he is an idiot and forgot who I am.” Podobnyy noted that Page wrote him emails in Russian “to practice,” and said “he flies to Moscow more than I do.”
    But Podobnyy never intended to deliver on those promises and instead pumped Page for information.
    “This is intelligence method to cheat, how else to work with foreigners? You promise a favor for a favor,” Podobnyy told his supervisor. “You get the documents from him and tell him to go f-ck himself.”
    According to a summary of the allegations against the Russian spies, Page provided Podobnyy with his views on the future of the energy industry, as well as related documents. Collecting such information about the Western outlook on the energy industry, the lynchpin of the Russian economy, would represent one key task for Moscow agents stationed in the United States. All three defendants in the complaint worked in the economics division of the SVR.
    Based on the FBI complaint, it appears Page never realized his Russian contact worked on behalf of Moscow’s intelligence services.


    Some context.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/04...-was-an-idiot/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    , their strategy to attract the white racist vote, and this is the best evidence that you can come up with to prove that the GOP didn't make any attempt to attract the white racist vote. Fantastic.
    Would you be so kind as to explain why the GOP needed or would want the "white racist vote" ?

    Seems to me the party opposed to slavery, opposed to segregation, opposed to Jim Crow.... Would hurt itself and erode it's very foundation by courting that vote.

    Also seems to me that IF such a switch had happened then wouldn't Southern states (presumably where all those racists are) have been immediately electing Republican state Houses and Governors? You know what with all their Southern Strategy and all?


    Keep on thinking those FISA warrants are on the up and up. Did you enjoy Mueller in front of Congress? Didn't he drop the hammer on Trump? No he was a pathetic old man covering a report he didn't even write.

    Where is your next savior? Who will bring down Trump now? Are we going to have to wait for the election? Who are you cheerleading for? Warren?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Interestingly in white rural areas that have been devastated by the Reagan/Bush/GOP free market pro business policies that have decimated American jobs, the heroin/fentanyl problem and so on high school dropout rates, births out of wedlock and crime rates in white communities have risen to the same level as in the most unfortunate urban black communities.
    There is massive drug (opiod - meth) problem in the white community. All over states many whites are like this.







    White folks get K&A looking like skid row. They have programs giving them clean needles and a program to pick up the needles these beasts discard on the ground. Plus they beg 24/7 with their dusty ass signs in the street and subway. When it’s a white problem, it's a problem.



    But of course because opiod is white drug they'll go soft on em



    They don’t want the little white Timmys of the world to hit that cell.

    That's why when story of the dead opiod addict last year (Maddie Linsenmeir) came out - You would think she was getting to be buried in Arlington with all this press around her death.



    And Bill Clinton saying



    Whose this "us" ? Are black people in that "us" ? Na. I think not

    Drugs don't sick with black folk. Heroin ended in the 60s. Coke the 70s. Crack the 80s. The only thing left is weed. But when black folks put that down watch "them" make Newport illegal to smoke.

    I attended college in one of the “blackest” cities in the U.S., demographically and culturally, and worked in virtually all-black public housing projects, including developments that were at that time considered the “worst” and most dangerous in the country and I saw fewer drugs in those communities in a year than I saw in one week in my freshman dorm at University in the states: lots of them, as it turns out, being taken and sold by guys from the suburbs.

    And this is true despite the fact drugs, gambling, cigarettes is pushed into black communities more than anyway else

    Don't compare the drug problem in the white community with the black community.

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    Yeah I wonder where all these drugs are coming from

    CBP Officers Seize Largest Amount of Fentanyl in CBP History
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-m...yl-cbp-history

    It's a real mystery.



    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback
    Drugs don't sick with black folk. Heroin ended in the 60s. Coke the 70s. Crack the 80s. The only thing left is weed. But when black folks put that down watch "them" make Newport illegal to smoke.

    I attended college in one of the “blackest” cities in the U.S., demographically and culturally, and worked in virtually all-black public housing projects, including developments that were at that time considered the “worst” and most dangerous in the country and I saw fewer drugs in those communities in a year than I saw in one week in my freshman dorm at University in the states: lots of them, as it turns out, being taken and sold by guys from the suburbs.

    And this is true despite the fact drugs, gambling, cigarettes is pushed into black communities more than anyway else

    Don't compare the drug problem in the white community with the black community.
    Sure they don't it's why Chicago is one of the most peaceful places on Earth. I guess the whole "gang warfare" is about something other than who owns what corner to sell off of...nah nah they're just fighting over which color they like best red or blue

    Well I guess that makes you an expert on all things Black and American. Why pray tell would the public housing projects be "virtually all-black"? Were these people FORCED into Section 8 housing? Were they rounded up and marched there or do they live there willingly?

    Ah yes cigarettes and tobacco weren't pushed on white people at all


    ....wow all those black people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Sure they don't it's why Chicago is one of the most peaceful places on Earth. I guess the whole "gang warfare" is about something other than who owns what corner to sell off of...nah nah they're just fighting over which color they like best red or blue
    The police are behind many of these shootings and blame it on gang violence..

    Multiple people shot and killed and no one coming forward to say anything ?

    Or are you so deeply soaked in a white supremacist way of thinking that you think “well, ya know, that’s what those blacks are like”

    There was another one of these shootings a few months bk in Chicago where multiple suspects randomly shot into a crowd of people, and miraculously there are NO SUSPECTS APPREHENDED



    Everyone has camera phones and they record everything except these mass Chicago shootings

    When the white cops are parking trucks filled with jordans to bait black ppl in, its hard to believe anything coming from the people who work for the shitstem. They do this so they can capture and brutalize black people in places like this



    Police and white supremacists are behind the "gang warfare" in Chicago. Here are screen captures from video of a white man (cop) doing a so called "drive by" to instigate violence in Chicago. Cops, militia, and random whites are doing these killings. Same in Philly, NY, Baltimore, and Ferguson.




    All several hundred witnesses to these shootings are not keeping silent out of a no snitch code. No snitch code goes out the window when children are being killed. You saw how fast the black community came forward in the murder of Tyshawn Lee ?

    Even a jailhouse informant, a convicted felon came forward and turned the killer in.

    Because there is no one standing for that.

    There is no way possible in the 3rd largest city in America. The most powerful nation on earth; that multiple killings can happen this often.

    There is no way possible for all that killing to go on without some dirty cops being involved.

    Most of these kids can barely afford a burger from McDonald’s. How can can they afford these guns?

    The guns they have can’t even be barely legally, not only that, there are no gun shops in Chicago.

    Where do they get the bullets from?

    Also city taxes pay for camera’s on every block and when a shooting takes place no one is in custody, nor do they have leads.

    But let one of their own get murdered ? They'll know the killer their in less 48 hrs.

    A lot of the gang wars were initially instigated by police and government agents to destabilize the communities and drive down property values for eventual gentrification and ethnic cleansing. So Chicago has long been a place of violent criminal activity and it was started perpetrated by white people.

    Also it was white people who got this ball rolling in Chicago.

    People like Al Capone, John Dillinger, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson. Also events like the Valentine’s Day Massacre. What’s ironic is that people like the ones mentioned are applauded, romanticized as heroes and have films and documentaries made about them.

    These peoples planted the seeds of street crime.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Why pray tell would the public housing projects be "virtually all-black"? Were these people FORCED into Section 8 housing? Were they rounded up and marched there or do they live there willingly?
    Well you know the answer to these questions and the clueless way you ask you them does not escape the fact that you know

    These areas and places were created because historical racism.

    Whites qualified for the Homestead Act, the G.I. Bill and FHA loans – Because they were White.
    White could live in richer neighbourhoods and go to more well resourced schools – Because they were White.

    So yes whites can force a sizeable % black people economically to live in certain areas and in section 8 housing because the blackness of section 8 and certain areas increased as a direct result of the institutionally racist policies of the government, in concert with private sector discrimination, which kept black folks locked in crowded urban spaces, even as whites could come and go as they pleased.

    Where as white flight was directly subsidized by the government, which spent billions of dollars on highway construction (which helped whites get from work in the cities to homes in the ‘burbs) and low-cost loans, pretty much available to whites in those newly developing residential spaces.

    And I'm pretty sure you know this

    You see finding areas in the US that are economically strong and free of white people is a tough task. So even if a black person wanted to avoid whites in their neighborhoods they'll find themselves limited to the poorest, most crowded areas of town because the system of white supremacy - racism MAKES SURE those areas are poor and over crowded. So our ability to move will always be directly constrained by the larger opportunity structure that has skewed power and resources in whites direction.

    Whites seeking to avoid blacks ?



    They can do that easy with the help of mortgage discrimination, redlining, zoning laws and so-called “market forces” pricing many blacks out of the better housing markets (even though whites only got into those markets because of government subsidies and preferences).

    Your talking points sound good when your around buddies and family. They sound good when no-one is there to check them.
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    Yeah the world would be completely at peace if not for the white man

    OK for your assertion that "the cops are shooting people and blaming it on gang warfare"....#1 I wouldn't be all that shocked if there are crooked cops involved with the gangs and #2 So 100% of all cops are white?

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback
    When the white cops are parking trucks filled with jordans in the to bait black ppl in
    How difficult is it to NOT steal something? I have a pretty easy time NOT stealing things, but I guess that's due to the melanin content of my skin


    You twist and turn and pretzel logic everything up in order to show that black people are ALWAYS the victim. That is horrible, you're denying their ability (and perhaps your own) to make decisions for themselves, you're basically denying their free will, you're setting a locus of control which is well beyond their reach meaning that black people are only acted upon by people, events, life....is that how your life is? Are you merely acted upon? You've got no say in what you do on the day to day? If there's a semi full of Nike's you're drawn to it like a moth to the flame and there's nothing you can do to NOT steal? ....and you call ME racist! Some nerve to do that.


    I believe humans in general and in this case black people specifically have free will, I believe they make choices which have consequences both positive and negative. I think in a city like Chicago or Baltimore the government is Democrat and they see it as a boon to their voting bloc to continue to have community issues like drugs and violence so that those politicians can promise solutions to hapless victims and show them a boogeyman of not just white people but of those better off than they are financially.


    White people leave a crime riddled area it's "white flight", property values plummet...white people come back and attempt to dress up an impoverished area it's "gentrification" and property values (and taxes) rise....so it's damned if they do damned if they don't.



    I force nobody to do a damn thing, but here you are and apparently my very being is an assault on you....it's a very pathetic way to view life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback View Post

    People like Al Capone, John Dillinger, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson. Also events like the Valentine’s Day Massacre. What’s ironic is that people like the ones mentioned are applauded, romanticized as heroes and have films and documentaries made about them.



    Ah yes... all white boys. What about Frank Lucas though? Granted, he operated out of New York, but he had a movie made about him just the same. He also appeared in Drug Lords, so there's that. Does that count?

    Didn't want you to think it was just white bad boy outlaws who got all the headlines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Interestingly in white rural areas that have been devastated by the Reagan/Bush/GOP free market pro business policies that have decimated American jobs, the heroin/fentanyl problem and so on high school dropout rates, births out of wedlock and crime rates in white communities have risen to the same level as in the most unfortunate urban black communities.
    There is massive drug (opiod - meth) problem in the white community. All over states many whites are like this.







    White folks get K&A looking like skid row. They have programs giving them clean needles and a program to pick up the needles these beasts discard on the ground. Plus they beg 24/7 with their dusty ass signs in the street and subway. When it’s a white problem, it's a problem.



    But of course because opiod is white drug they'll go soft on em



    They don’t want the little white Timmys of the world to hit that cell.

    That's why when story of the dead opiod addict last year (Maddie Linsenmeir) came out - You would think she was getting to be buried in Arlington with all this press around her death.



    And Bill Clinton saying



    Whose this "us" ? Are black people in that "us" ? Na. I think not

    Drugs don't sick with black folk. Heroin ended in the 60s. Coke the 70s. Crack the 80s. The only thing left is weed. But when black folks put that down watch "them" make Newport illegal to smoke.

    I attended college in one of the “blackest” cities in the U.S., demographically and culturally, and worked in virtually all-black public housing projects, including developments that were at that time considered the “worst” and most dangerous in the country and I saw fewer drugs in those communities in a year than I saw in one week in my freshman dorm at University in the states: lots of them, as it turns out, being taken and sold by guys from the suburbs.

    And this is true despite the fact drugs, gambling, cigarettes is pushed into black communities more than anyway else

    Don't compare the drug problem in the white community with the black community.
    White America reaping what they sowed in the black community. And now it is them through their Big Pharma companies doing it to themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    White America reaping what they sowed in the black community. And now it is them through their Big Pharma companies doing it to themselves.

    The only color which matters in this case is the color of money. Those poor bastards didn't cause government agencies to turn a blind eye to things happening in a certain part of town anymore than you did. There's a culture to pill popping (which is how one starts down the road of heroin addiction) and it can take ANYONE regardless of their lot in life.


    I'd ask you to speak to a few of my friends, but they're busy being dead right now due to this very epidemic. One of my friends from college, a black kid with a big heart, he'd give you the shirt off his back and he had his whole life ahead of him....gone. Another a white kid from an affluent family, likewise a good friend with a tender heart and a caring soul, he strayed from that path, he became a very different person because of those drugs (he wasn't even one to smoke pot at all, in hindsight that could have been a major flaw) and he's gone too. There's plenty more I know about and I'm sure others know of more or have worse stories of friends or family members getting lost in addiction.

    Those guys did nothing bad to ANY community, they had their weaknesses exploited over a period of time and sadly it cost them their lives.


    People know full well the dangers of tobacco and alcohol....what we're dealing with right now is similar to 'A Scanner Darkly' Big Pharma makes the killer drugs, Big Pharma makes the saving grace remedy, Big Pharma makes all the money. Do you think Big Pharma cares about race? Or religion? Or sexuality? Or gender? Or socioeconomic status? Or victimhood? Or social justice? No it just feeds the till.


    Keep it in mind for your own next injury or surgery, I know I do. It doesn't take much for that switch to get flipped from "using as needed" to "completely and hopelessly addicted". I've never felt a high from an opioid and I never want to.
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    Ah yes... all white boys. What about Frank Lucas though? Granted, he operated out of New York, but he had a movie made about him just the same. He also appeared in Drug Lords, so there's that. Does that count?

    Didn't want you to think it was just white bad boy outlaws who got all the headlines.
    All the major drug dealers on the planet are white or non black.

    Chinese triads and Japanese Yakuza and Latin american drug cartels don't identify with blacks. La Eme is an openly racist organization. .

    Russian mafia gangs and the Vory V Zakone brotherhood are white, though some uzbeks and other ethnic minorities are presented among their ranks.

    Italian organized crime is exclusive : Napolitan Camorra, Sicilian Cosa Nostra Mafia, Calbrian Ndragheta and Puglian Sacra are all true blue Italian organisations. Same goes with the US Cosa Nostra.

    European organized crime in general is white. They form a underworld of crime that beats street gangs easily in power, prestige and money.

    Turkish babas and organizations are exclusive. Balkan crime groups are also exclusive. In France there are strong Algerian immigrant gangs and organisations but the upper echelon of French organizations are usually white. Very few black criminals have risen to the top there or in Britain.

    These crime groups are responsible for the flow of drugs into USA and Europe. They are also players in the financial fraud scene. They smuggle weapons and supply the street criminals with weapons and drugs. And of course, they are the ones who operate together with corrupt officials and politicians. This is why you don't see them in crime stats.

    You have to understand the economics of this real big crime.

    There are no funds in the black ghetto areas which could pay up the tons of drugs they import annually into USA. It is the huge white middle and upper classes that consume casually the majority of the narcotics. They have the capital for it. That is the economical fact. This is good to remember. The same goes for Europe too.

    Then, there are the Wall street jugglers who are also criminals and who are the main reason why the average white Americans are in the deep shit, loose their homes, insurances etc. They affect to the security of the white middle class many many times more than any black street mugger or dope smoking gangabanger.

    Also one has to remember that black street gangs can not operate openly in the suburbia where as the white organized criminals live there in peace

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    You SURE you're not an Israelite?


    Frank Lucas
    Freeway Rick Ross
    Nicky Barnes
    Christopher Coke
    Frank 'Black Caesar' Matthews

    Those guys made bank.



    It's not typically a lifestyle with a pretty end, but it's certainly a celebrated lifestyle among various kinds of people rich, poor, middle class, black, white, brown, yellow...Gangster movies wouldn't do so well unless people enjoyed them and they started out in the 1930's and are still going strong.




    So back to Trump then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    You SURE you're not an Israelite?
    Nope I'm not.

    The Black Hebrew Israelite are 100% right though in pretty much everything they say. They tell the truth to the white supremacist's face. So I gottta respect that. But they're just about debating really and they're good debaters. But that's it.

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    How difficult is it to NOT steal something? I have a pretty easy time NOT stealing things, but I guess that's due to the melanin content of my skin
    No it's due to the fact that you benefit from system of white racism - white supremacy. If you think putting bait trucks full of nikes in black areas to entrap black ppl is good policing than your to far gone to take seriously but chicago police are known to do this. They are known to confiscate & hide surveillance tapes...

    Chicagoans, former & current, also know about mercenaries killing under the guise of "gang violence". Plenty proof of white men dressed in Black face masks committing murders too. 500+ killed on avg for decades. That's why blk people need to stop participating in those gun buyback programs for a $100 gift card and a pat on the head. All white supremacists do is recycle those weapons back into the streets.

    They expect us to believe that Black people are professional assassins who can murder without being caught? If that were true, Black people would not be the victims.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    You twist and turn and pretzel logic everything up in order to show that black people are ALWAYS the victim.
    Black people are victims. This is were whites try to get creative and play to your ego "Stop being a cry baby" "Stop acting like a victim"

    We are victims.

    And by the way. Havent you heard ? White's are the victims now.

    All these pussy ass, alt-right ass, incel ass, over pampered white boys on 4chan and reddit shooting up malls, acting like they're victims of big government, immigrants, reverse discrimination, “radical Islam,” you name it. Whites loves victimhood, so long as they’re the ones who get to choose which victims count.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    That is horrible, you're denying their ability (and perhaps your own) to make decisions for themselves,
    To tell my son that he can be anything he wants to be if he tries hard enough is nice, but unless I warn him about the obstacles in his path. I'm ill-suiting him for the real world. I'm doing him no favors, but setting him up for a fall, once he comes upon the hurdles for which I had failed to prepare him. On the other hand, by discussing those obstacles, blk ppl who are the targets of racism can accomplish in spite of those headwinds.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    you're basically denying their free will,
    There is a big difference between being prepared for injury and wallowing in victimhood.

    When you buy insurance you are preparing for the possibility of something bad happening to you. Or putting a seat-belt on in a car. Are you paranoid when you do this ? Locked in a victim mentality? Neurotic? No, just cautious. Being prepared does not paralyze you. Black people think about the potential of racist injury, and given the possibility of such injury, doing so is no less rational than to contemplate other forms of ill-fortune.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    you're setting a locus of control which is well beyond their reach
    Well here's the thing, if what I'm saying is B.S, then there won't be no problem but you can't find me hardly any black person who has not had to face systematic white supremacy

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    meaning that black people are only acted upon by people, events, life
    Look - If you can't swim and you get in a boat with me and we row far off-shore and I throw you over and you drown

    What was the cause of your death?

    I said,“El Kabong died because he was too lazy to take the time to learn how how to swim.

    But the real answer is that you died because you was pushed.

    Any other answer is dealing only with secondary circumstances. YES, knowing how to swim might have been a solution to your dilemma, once you was in the water, but NOT knowing how to swim was not the CAUSE of his dilemma. The CAUSE was me who set upon you.

    Because there is this tendency to try and avert attention from the racist cause of the current effects of Black ppl with statements that basically boil down to this:

    The cause of your condition is your lack of willingness to implement my solution

    This is, of course, is a logical misrepresentation. A solution and a cause are two separate concepts.

    If a bully is beating up a 3rd grader, the CAUSE of his black eye is not that he didn’t try hard enough to fight back. The CAUSE is not that he couldn’t run fast enough to get away. The CAUSE was not he couldn’t negotiate a deal with the bully not to hurt him. Those all represent SOLUTIONS, not causes.

    Similarly, the CAUSE of the present condition of Black people in the U.S. is not that we haven’t availed ourselves of any number of possible solutions, the CAUSE (for the most part) is still racism.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    is that how your life is? Are you merely acted upon? You've got no say in what you do on the day to day?
    My life is fine

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    If there's a semi full of Nike's you're drawn to it like a moth to the flame and there's nothing you can do to NOT steal? ....
    Well if I put you and your family in a room and starve you for two days and then outside when you leave. I put a truck full of McDonalds, KFC, Treats, cakes and drinks out. How would you react ? See you can talk all this moral talk when bks not up against the wall and besides The people there did not take the bait. They recognized that it was clearly a bait truck and informed others.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    and you call ME racist! Some nerve to do that.
    This isn’t personal, it’s business. All whites are racist. But for you, I'd say your more on the extreme end. Not Richard Spencer but miore Donald Trump type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback
    The Black Hebrew Israelite are 100% right though in pretty much everything they say.
    OK, well that explains a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback
    No it's due to the fact that you benefit from system of white racism - white supremacy. If you think putting bait trucks full of nikes in black areas to entrap black ppl is good policing than your to far gone to take seriously but chicago police are known to do this. They are known to confiscate & hide surveillance tapes...

    Chicagoans, former & current, also know about mercenaries killing under the guise of "gang violence". Plenty proof of white men dressed in Black face masks committing murders too. 500+ killed on avg for decades. That's why blk people need to stop participating in those gun buyback programs for a $100 gift card and a pat on the head. All white supremacists do is recycle those weapons back into the streets.

    They expect us to believe that Black people are professional assassins who can murder without being caught? If that were true, Black people would not be the victims.
    Again, so my skin color prevents me from stealing? You say the "system" is "white racism" and I'm telling you there could be a truck full to the brim of Jordans parked in front of my house and I wouldn't steal it I'd have it towed away....and you're telling me my SKIN makes that choice for me Wow.

    Yes there are SOME corrupt cops I don't deny that at all, I too live in a city with corrupt cops....no Al Jolson blackface wearing assassins though....what even?!?! Care to provide this "plenty of proof" in regards to that?

    I too disagree with gun buyback programs as I believe in the 2nd Amendment.

    "All white supremacists do is recycle those weapons back into the streets." .....so you're telling me that black people give their guns away for money/gift cards and then immediately get their guns back and don't turn them back in for more money/gift cards they keep them or what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback
    Black people are victims. This is were whites try to get creative and play to your ego "Stop being a cry baby" "Stop acting like a victim"

    We are victims.

    And by the way. Havent you heard ? White's are the victims now.

    All these pussy ass, alt-right ass, incel ass, over pampered white boys on 4chan and reddit shooting up malls, acting like they're victims of big government, immigrants, reverse discrimination, “radical Islam,” you name it. Whites loves victimhood, so long as they’re the ones who get to choose which victims count.
    I'm not a victim and I don't plan on becoming one.


    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback
    To tell my son that he can be anything he wants to be if he tries hard enough is nice, but unless I warn him about the obstacles in his path. I'm ill-suiting him for the real world. I'm doing him no favors, but setting him up for a fall, once he comes upon the hurdles for which I had failed to prepare him. On the other hand, by discussing those obstacles, blk ppl who are the targets of racism can accomplish in spite of those headwinds.
    Teach him if he's perfect in life, absolutely Grade A shining example of a man, and he can still be completely ruined by racism and you'll be teaching him to never even try in life.

    OR teach him to distrust, keep at arm's length, hate white people and he'll either have a hard time advancing his career (which he'll blame on racism/self fulfilling prophecy) OR he'll be undone because you've taught him to be racist and he'll get fired for that.

    I guess if he goes down the self fulfilling prophecy path he will at least continue to think you're right so that should make you proud.

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback
    There is a big difference between being prepared for injury and wallowing in victimhood.

    When you buy insurance you are preparing for the possibility of something bad happening to you. Or putting a seat-belt on in a car. Are you paranoid when you do this ? Locked in a victim mentality? Neurotic? No, just cautious. Being prepared does not paralyze you. Black people think about the potential of racist injury, and given the possibility of such injury, doing so is no less rational than to contemplate other forms of ill-fortune.
    Self fulfilling prophecy...that is what you've set up for yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback
    Well here's the thing, if what I'm saying is B.S, then there won't be no problem but you can't find me hardly any black person who has not had to face systematic white supremacy
    Not to suit how you view the world, no. And here's the thing is that a ME and everyone else on Earth problem or a YOU problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback
    Look - If you can't swim and you get in a boat with me and we row far off-shore and I throw you over and you drown

    What was the cause of your death?

    I said,“El Kabong died because he was too lazy to take the time to learn how how to swim.”

    But the real answer is that you died because you was pushed.

    Any other answer is dealing only with secondary circumstances. YES, knowing how to swim might have been a solution to your dilemma, once you was in the water, but NOT knowing how to swim was not the CAUSE of his dilemma. The CAUSE was me who set upon you.

    Because there is this tendency to try and avert attention from the racist cause of the current effects of Black ppl with statements that basically boil down to this:

    “The cause of your condition is your lack of willingness to implement my solution”

    This is, of course, is a logical misrepresentation. A solution and a cause are two separate concepts.

    If a bully is beating up a 3rd grader, the CAUSE of his black eye is not that he didn’t try hard enough to fight back. The CAUSE is not that he couldn’t run fast enough to get away. The CAUSE was not he couldn’t negotiate a deal with the bully not to hurt him. Those all represent SOLUTIONS, not causes.

    Similarly, the CAUSE of the present condition of Black people in the U.S. is not that we haven’t availed ourselves of any number of possible solutions, the CAUSE (for the most part) is still racism.
    Would it not be up to me to know the dangers surrounding boating? Drowning is a pretty big one there Mr. "Are you paranoid when you buckle a seatbelt?"

    Relate all these metaphors and hypotheticals to reality and what you're saying is what? Blacks can't operate in society? I'd highly disagree with that.
    "Drown in a vat of whiskey.....death where is thy sting?" - W.C. Fields.

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