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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    The facts are already public. This is just impeachment for dummies on the television right now. For people who don't read which is 95+% of the country.

    Trump won't be found guilty but it'll be obvious that he is. And he'll continue to extort and otherswise get countries and individuals to try and fix the 2020 election/upend the facts about the 2016 election. This is just one party upholding the constitution, trying to prevent America becoming an outright banana republic and the other party cheering it on.It's awful to see Lyle.
    OK then...I've got to say I find your take on this rather amusingly twisted. You're seemingly very pleased with this whole process but you're also openly admitting it won't change anything.


    Have you chosen a Democrat to support for President yet?

    No, nothing will be changed and you're still now living in a banana republic.


    Any Democrat will be fine. None of them are obvious criminals. Since he took office Trump is now up to $27 million in settlement payments to avoid various fraud indictments. His only concrete legislative achievement has been to rig the economy even further in the direction of the wealthy. Everything else is a total shitshow. Another four years and he'll get control of the Fed and then you're fully bananad. It's in everybodys' interests for a non criminal to win in 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    There is no crime here. No linkage, lots of accusations of treason and bribery but this is not Nixon or Clinton. It should give you an idea of what’s going on here. Schiff won’t let them question the whistleblower, strange
    What's the point of questioning the whistleblower? Everything he said in the original complaint has turned out to be true and backed up with first hand accounts by the people involved.
    Oh so the defense shouldn’t be able to question him. Everything he said is true? Ya that’s typically how it works in our judicial system look Kirk maybe you will be happy and this goes somewhere. It doesn’t past the muster but you don’t care about that. You can continue reading the far left talk show conspiracy shit. Schiff owes us the whistleblower because he had proof positive trump was a Russian agent and he must have lost it. Schiff doesn’t want this guy under oath for a reason. Probably because he might be asked questions about schiff

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    There is no crime here. No linkage, lots of accusations of treason and bribery but this is not Nixon or Clinton. It should give you an idea of what’s going on here. Schiff won’t let them question the whistleblower, strange
    What's the point of questioning the whistleblower? Everything he said in the original complaint has turned out to be true and backed up with first hand accounts by the people involved.
    Oh so the defense shouldn’t be able to question him. Everything he said is true? Ya that’s typically how it works in our judicial system look Kirk maybe you will be happy and this goes somewhere. It doesn’t past the muster but you don’t care about that. You can continue reading the far left talk show conspiracy shit. Schiff owes us the whistleblower because he had proof positive trump was a Russian agent and he must have lost it. Schiff doesn’t want this guy under oath for a reason. Probably because he might be asked questions about schiff

    Why would they need to question him? They can question the actual people involved. The whistleblower just heard about the call from somebody who was actually on it. That's just one phone call. It turns out the phone call was the culmination of a months long effort involving lots of people to get the Ukrainian pm to open an investigation into Trump's political rival. Most of the people involved have already testified about this months long effort. Some of them are ignoring legal supoenas on the orders of Trump. Stop getting your information from talk radio and read a fucking newspaper you muppet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    No, nothing will be changed and you're still now living in a banana republic.


    Any Democrat will be fine. None of them are obvious criminals. Since he took office Trump is now up to $27 million in settlement payments to avoid various fraud indictments. His only concrete legislative achievement has been to rig the economy even further in the direction of the wealthy. Everything else is a total shitshow. Another four years and he'll get control of the Fed and then you're fully bananad. It's in everybodys' interests for a non criminal to win in 2020.
    OK, I mean you're certainly free to think and feel all those things. I wonder what you actually hope for, but man it is just going to be a hoot watching all this play out and you'll still be getting upset about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Why would they need to question him? They can question the actual people involved. The whistleblower just heard about the call from somebody who was actually on it. That's just one phone call. It turns out the phone call was the culmination of a months long effort involving lots of people to get the Ukrainian pm to open an investigation into Trump's political rival. Most of the people involved have already testified about this months long effort. Some of them are ignoring legal supoenas on the orders of Trump. Stop getting your information from talk radio and read a fucking newspaper you muppet.
    #1. He's the whistleblower.

    #2 he lied on his report about not meeting with Rep Schiff and Schiff lied about meeting with him.


    The phone call itself had 0 illegal in it...Amb Taylor today disputed this idea of quid pro quo, he said President Zelenskiy had 0 idea about assistance being held up. If it was extortion or bribery or quid pro quo Zelensky would HAVE to know about the assistance. He'd have to otherwise it's just Trump shadowboxing which again, ain't illegal.



    What newspaper should we read? Washington Post? New York Times? Both?
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    Missed the tv show today, was busy having damaged furniture delivered . Currently watching this loaded set up press conference where Trump wants only "friendly" questions for Erdogen and patting him on the hand like a muppet. No mention as of yet about the U.S having drone footage of Turkish forces attacking Kurdish civilians on multiple occasions. Apparently Trump very much thinks parts of the U.S Constitution should "not be allowed" either. Namely the part about the founding Fathers seeing the impeachment clause as indispensable and fearing a President could become a tool of a faction .

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Why would they need to question him? They can question the actual people involved. The whistleblower just heard about the call from somebody who was actually on it. That's just one phone call. It turns out the phone call was the culmination of a months long effort involving lots of people to get the Ukrainian pm to open an investigation into Trump's political rival. Most of the people involved have already testified about this months long effort. Some of them are ignoring legal supoenas on the orders of Trump. Stop getting your information from talk radio and read a fucking newspaper you muppet.
    #1. He's the whistleblower.

    #2 he lied on his report about not meeting with Rep Schiff and Schiff lied about meeting with him.


    The phone call itself had 0 illegal in it...Amb Taylor today disputed this idea of quid pro quo, he said President Zelenskiy had 0 idea about assistance being held up. If it was extortion or bribery or quid pro quo Zelensky would HAVE to know about the assistance. He'd have to otherwise it's just Trump shadowboxing which again, ain't illegal.



    What newspaper should we read? Washington Post? New York Times? Both?

    Whistleblowers are just that. There's no convention that says they have to testify at all. In fact there's an entire act of congress devoted to protecting their identities.

    He didn't lie about meeting Schiff. He's never met Schiff. The whistleblower made contact with the committee to make sure they knew about his complaint while Barr was still trying to bury it and it hadn't become public knowledge yet. Whistleblowing is legal and had a whole set of protocols and procedures that are codified into law that they have to follow to be able to blow the whistle and not face prosecution or retribution. One of these protocols is that they're allowed to contact the relevant congressional committee for various reasons. The whistleblower contacted the Schiff committee through his lawyer according to the various protocols and guidelines set out in the whistleblower laws.

    The call was so not illegal that three inspectors general who heard about it immediately opened criminal referrals into it and the transcript of the call itself was buried in a top secret server. Various other officials have already testified that the Ukrainians knew the aid was being held up.

    https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/st...10158405971968


    https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/st...13896371699712

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/sta...01511538909184

    https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1180191103389229058

    This is just a quick sample. There's endless more documented evidence the Ukrainians knew the score.


    Both papers are spectacular. They both basically publish a book of thousands of different individual parts every day and make maybe ten mistakes a year. I pay a lot of money for various information and data and I wish everything I bought was as accurate and value for money as those papers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Missed the tv show today, was busy having damaged furniture delivered . Currently watching this loaded set up press conference where Trump wants only "friendly" questions for Erdogen and patting him on the hand like a muppet. No mention as of yet about the U.S having drone footage of Turkish forces attacking Kurdish civilians on multiple occasions. Apparently Trump very much thinks parts of the U.S Constitution should "not be allowed" either. Namely the part about the founding Fathers seeing the impeachment clause as indispensable and fearing a President could become a tool of a faction .
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...sions-n1080651

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    Being honest, we turned the page on the Whistleblower this or that the morning my President stood on the White House lawn and encouraged China to investigate a candidate for the United States 2020 Presidential election. It's like we all have willful amnesia. Seriously..that horse is so far outta the barn that the door has finished swinging, the roosters and pigs have calmed down and all you hear is the feint far off clippity clop off in the distance in a cloud of dust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Being honest, we turned the page on the Whistleblower this or that the morning my President stood on the White House lawn and encouraged China to investigate a candidate for the United States 2020 Presidential election. It's like we all have willful amnesia. Seriously..that horse is so far outta the barn that the door has finished swinging, the roosters and pigs have calmed down and all you hear is the feint far off clippity clop off in the distance in a cloud of dust.
    True there is complete amnesia on dnc working with Russian ops to compile a dossier against trump. Abusing FISA by at least the FBI and a few other things people just turned the page on. This current impeachment attempt is a continuation of all that. The Russian shit failed, there was talk of impeachment then

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    Criminal indictments coming

    Barr, Durham, Horowitz to the rescue

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Why would they need to question him? They can question the actual people involved. The whistleblower just heard about the call from somebody who was actually on it. That's just one phone call. It turns out the phone call was the culmination of a months long effort involving lots of people to get the Ukrainian pm to open an investigation into Trump's political rival. Most of the people involved have already testified about this months long effort. Some of them are ignoring legal supoenas on the orders of Trump. Stop getting your information from talk radio and read a fucking newspaper you muppet.
    #1. He's the whistleblower.

    #2 he lied on his report about not meeting with Rep Schiff and Schiff lied about meeting with him.


    The phone call itself had 0 illegal in it...Amb Taylor today disputed this idea of quid pro quo, he said President Zelenskiy had 0 idea about assistance being held up. If it was extortion or bribery or quid pro quo Zelensky would HAVE to know about the assistance. He'd have to otherwise it's just Trump shadowboxing which again, ain't illegal.



    What newspaper should we read? Washington Post? New York Times? Both?
    Schiff doesn’t want the whistleblower to testify as he is scared the whistleblower will uncover schiffs bullshit during testimony

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    "Drown in a vat of whiskey.....death where is thy sting?" - W.C. Fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Whistleblowers are just that. There's no convention that says they have to testify at all. In fact there's an entire act of congress devoted to protecting their identities.

    He didn't lie about meeting Schiff. He's never met Schiff. The whistleblower made contact with the committee to make sure they knew about his complaint while Barr was still trying to bury it and it hadn't become public knowledge yet. Whistleblowing is legal and had a whole set of protocols and procedures that are codified into law that they have to follow to be able to blow the whistle and not face prosecution or retribution. One of these protocols is that they're allowed to contact the relevant congressional committee for various reasons. The whistleblower contacted the Schiff committee through his lawyer according to the various protocols and guidelines set out in the whistleblower laws.

    The call was so not illegal that three inspectors general who heard about it immediately opened criminal referrals into it and the transcript of the call itself was buried in a top secret server. Various other officials have already testified that the Ukrainians knew the aid was being held up.

    https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/st...10158405971968


    https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/st...13896371699712

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/sta...01511538909184

    https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1180191103389229058

    This is just a quick sample. There's endless more documented evidence the Ukrainians knew the score.


    Both papers are spectacular. They both basically publish a book of thousands of different individual parts every day and make maybe ten mistakes a year. I pay a lot of money for various information and data and I wish everything I bought was as accurate and value for money as those papers.
    The whistleblower A) Lied about having met with Schiff and B ) evidence they have is #1. wrong and #2. hearsay....although one Democrat attempted to push forward that HEARSAY is oftentimes better than direct evidence



    You were saying about a Banana something?


    Oh I didn't know all that about whistleblowing....wow, that would explain your nonstop condemnation of Obama's use of the Espionage Act against whistleblowers during his term in office...here let me look all those up .... where could those posts have gone?


    Quite a list of tweets you have there....100% down the middle all of them.


    Both papers aren't fit to line bird cages
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    Well it's all over, writing is on the wall....





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