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    Well I haven’t read up on this but if true I guess it shows what a loyal friend Israel is. Obama did his best to try to get Netanyahu out but here he still is.
    check out kill switches & backdoors in mircochips all built outside of america. belt n road needs attention
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
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    Well I haven’t read up on this but if true I guess it shows what a loyal friend Israel is. Obama did his best to try to get Netanyahu out but here he still is.
    check out kill switches & backdoors in mircochips all built outside of america. belt n road needs attention
    Shit Tesla was buying those five g chips from China that were found to have backdoors giving China access to driving habits, facial recognition and all other communication. Shit China sold product to the US with hardware hacks, not just software, it’s the holy grail of hacks I put up a link to it here a while ago I’m sure you read about it.

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    So Trump has fored the Director of National Intelligence because he informed congress that Putin was trying to help Trump again in the 2020 election. The new DNI is a Trump loyalist who has no intelligence experience whatsoever. Trump is now going through the government firing anybody who is perceived as having a duty to the Constitution rather than loyalty to Trump:





    https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-de...41c9700c3.html





    meaning the country is going to be run by a bunch of unqualified clueless yes men. What could go wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    So Trump has fored the Director of National Intelligence because he informed congress that Putin was trying to help Trump again in the 2020 election. The new DNI is a Trump loyalist who has no intelligence experience whatsoever. Trump is now going through the government firing anybody who is perceived as having a duty to the Constitution rather than loyalty to Trump:





    https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-de...41c9700c3.html





    meaning the country is going to be run by a bunch of unqualified clueless yes men. What could go wrong?
    He's purging a tip of the spear intelligence communities of independent career professionals who speak truth to power with Fox anchors, temp agency workers, bootlickers and Nunes coffee fetchers. The swamp runneth over but this is bat shit crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    So Trump has fored the Director of National Intelligence because he informed congress that Putin was trying to help Trump again in the 2020 election. The new DNI is a Trump loyalist who has no intelligence experience whatsoever. Trump is now going through the government firing anybody who is perceived as having a duty to the Constitution rather than loyalty to Trump:





    https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-de...41c9700c3.html





    meaning the country is going to be run by a bunch of unqualified clueless yes men. What could go wrong?
    And according to you everything was going so swimmingly before.
    "Drown in a vat of whiskey.....death where is thy sting?" - W.C. Fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    So Trump has fored the Director of National Intelligence because he informed congress that Putin was trying to help Trump again in the 2020 election. The new DNI is a Trump loyalist who has no intelligence experience whatsoever. Trump is now going through the government firing anybody who is perceived as having a duty to the Constitution rather than loyalty to Trump:





    https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-de...41c9700c3.html





    meaning the country is going to be run by a bunch of unqualified clueless yes men. What could go wrong?
    He's purging a tip of the spear intelligence communities of independent career professionals who speak truth to power with Fox anchors, temp agency workers, bootlickers and Nunes coffee fetchers. The swamp runneth over but this is bat shit crazy.

    How would my government respond if this virus spread across my country?” For the United States, the answers are especially worrying because the government has intentionally rendered itself incapable. In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure. In numerous phone calls and emails with key agencies across the U.S. government, the only consistent response I encountered was distressed confusion. If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it is—not just for the public but for the government itself, which largely finds itself in the dark.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31...ency-response/



    and


    https://twitter.com/ggreeneva/status...33090807226368

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    So Trump has fored the Director of National Intelligence because he informed congress that Putin was trying to help Trump again in the 2020 election. The new DNI is a Trump loyalist who has no intelligence experience whatsoever. Trump is now going through the government firing anybody who is perceived as having a duty to the Constitution rather than loyalty to Trump: https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-de...41c9700c3.html meaning the country is going to be run by a bunch of unqualified clueless yes men. What could go wrong?
    And according to you everything was going so swimmingly before.


    Historically the American government used to have a bipartisan policy of putting suitably qualified people in the top jobs whichever party held the White House. The only qualification now is loyalty to the cult leader.



    Trump fired his DNI because the DNI went to congress and told them there was another attempt by the Russians to interfere in the election coming up:



    If reporting is accurate, the president purged his intelligence chief because Congress was informed of a foreign effort to help him politically. How is that not a massive scandal?




    He then hired this guy, a man with zero intelligence background, as the new DNI: Richard Grenell, Trump's new spy chief, did not disclose payments for advocacy work on behalf of a Moldovan politician whom the U.S. later accused of corruption, ProPublica reports. His own office's policy says that could leave him vulnerable to blackmail. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...79310544195590



    "In this administration, good men and women don’t last long," says the retired admiral who oversaw the SEAL raid that killed Osama bin Laden. "When good men and women can’t speak the truth ... then there is nothing left to stop the triumph of evil."
    https://twitter.com/dabeard/status/1231069911411236867

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    So Trump has fored the Director of National Intelligence because he informed congress that Putin was trying to help Trump again in the 2020 election. The new DNI is a Trump loyalist who has no intelligence experience whatsoever. Trump is now going through the government firing anybody who is perceived as having a duty to the Constitution rather than loyalty to Trump:





    https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-de...41c9700c3.html





    meaning the country is going to be run by a bunch of unqualified clueless yes men. What could go wrong?
    He's purging a tip of the spear intelligence communities of independent career professionals who speak truth to power with Fox anchors, temp agency workers, bootlickers and Nunes coffee fetchers. The swamp runneth over but this is bat shit crazy.

    How would my government respond if this virus spread across my country?” For the United States, the answers are especially worrying because the government has intentionally rendered itself incapable. In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure. In numerous phone calls and emails with key agencies across the U.S. government, the only consistent response I encountered was distressed confusion. If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it is—not just for the public but for the government itself, which largely finds itself in the dark.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31...ency-response/



    and


    https://twitter.com/ggreeneva/status...33090807226368
    Not sure how accurate the cleaning house of pandemic responders is but there's no doubt the Administration is making it up on the fly. They had a conference apparently but nothing made public which makes you wonder. Seems more focus on the back to back hit to the markets with Larry Kudlow out there this morning and priorities askew. I don't have much faith in a collective readiness to deal with any major crisis being honest. Was talking about it with people and in the States it would be an absolute clusterfeck trying to implement the tactics and exercises we've seen in China. Forced restraint on travel local and National and neighborhood lockdowns? Yeh good luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Historically the American government used to have a bipartisan policy of putting suitably qualified people in the top jobs whichever party held the White House. The only qualification now is loyalty to the cult leader.
    Oh is THAT so?



    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Trump fired his DNI because the DNI went to congress and told them there was another attempt by the Russians to interfere in the election coming up:


    If reporting is accurate, the president purged his intelligence chief because Congress was informed of a foreign effort to help him politically. How is that not a massive scandal?
    Big IF right there. And isn't it impressive how Russia a decades long foe never interfered in elections before but NOW they do it all the time and no race is too small, no candidate is too small....Jill Stein? Tulsi Gabbard? Seems to me like anyone not helping DNC Inc and Establishment Hillary is also a Russian sleeper agent....odd how that seems to be the case.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    He then hired this guy, a man with zero intelligence background, as the new DNI: Richard Grenell, Trump's new spy chief, did not disclose payments for advocacy work on behalf of a Moldovan politician whom the U.S. later accused of corruption, ProPublica reports. His own office's policy says that could leave him vulnerable to blackmail. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...79310544195590

    "In this administration, good men and women don’t last long," says the retired admiral who oversaw the SEAL raid that killed Osama bin Laden. "When good men and women can’t speak the truth ... then there is nothing left to stop the triumph of evil."
    https://twitter.com/dabeard/status/1231069911411236867
    Oooh Moldova has the goods on him eh? Well I doubt he lasts long then. The name I'm paying attention to isn't Grenell it's Patel.
    "Drown in a vat of whiskey.....death where is thy sting?" - W.C. Fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    So Trump has fored the Director of National Intelligence because he informed congress that Putin was trying to help Trump again in the 2020 election. The new DNI is a Trump loyalist who has no intelligence experience whatsoever. Trump is now going through the government firing anybody who is perceived as having a duty to the Constitution rather than loyalty to Trump:





    https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-de...41c9700c3.html





    meaning the country is going to be run by a bunch of unqualified clueless yes men. What could go wrong?
    He's purging a tip of the spear intelligence communities of independent career professionals who speak truth to power with Fox anchors, temp agency workers, bootlickers and Nunes coffee fetchers. The swamp runneth over but this is bat shit crazy.

    How would my government respond if this virus spread across my country?” For the United States, the answers are especially worrying because the government has intentionally rendered itself incapable. In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure. In numerous phone calls and emails with key agencies across the U.S. government, the only consistent response I encountered was distressed confusion. If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it is—not just for the public but for the government itself, which largely finds itself in the dark.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31...ency-response/



    and


    https://twitter.com/ggreeneva/status...33090807226368
    Not sure how accurate the cleaning house of pandemic responders is but there's no doubt the Administration is making it up on the fly. They had a conference apparently but nothing made public which makes you wonder. Seems more focus on the back to back hit to the markets with Larry Kudlow out there this morning and priorities askew. I don't have much faith in a collective readiness to deal with any major crisis being honest. Was talking about it with people and in the States it would be an absolute clusterfeck trying to implement the tactics and exercises we've seen in China. Forced restraint on travel local and National and neighborhood lockdowns? Yeh good luck with that.
    Some bits from that article:

    In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure.

    They haven't been replaced yet. Trump fired thembecause it was an Obama initiative that worked well:

    In the spring of 2018, the White House pushed Congress to cut funding for Obama-era disease security programs, proposing to eliminate $252 million in previously committed resources for rebuilding health systems in Ebola-ravaged Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea. Under fire from both sides of the aisle, President Donald Trump dropped the proposal to eliminate Ebola funds a month later. But other White House efforts included reducing $15 billion in national health spending and cutting the global disease-fighting operational budgets of the CDC, NSC, DHS, and HHS. And the government’s $30 million Complex Crises Fund was eliminated.


    In May 2018, Trump ordered the NSC’s entire global health security unit shut down, calling for reassignment of Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer and dissolution of his team inside the agency. The month before, then-White House National Security Advisor John Bolton pressured Ziemer’s DHS counterpart, Tom Bossert, to resign along with his team. Neither the NSC nor DHS epidemic teams have been replaced. The global health section of the CDC was so drastically cut in 2018 that much of its staff was laid off and the number of countries it was working in was reduced from 49 to merely 10. Meanwhile, throughout 2018, the U.S. Agency for International Development and its director, Mark Green, came repeatedly under fire from both the White House and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. And though Congress has so far managed to block Trump administration plans to cut the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps by 40 percent, the disease-fighting cadres have steadily eroded as retiring officers go unreplaced.
    Public health advocates have been ringing alarm bells to no avail. Klain has been warning for two years that the United States was in grave danger should a pandemic emerge. In 2017 and 2018, the philanthropist billionaire Bill Gates met repeatedly with Bolton and his predecessor, H.R. McMaster, warning that ongoing cuts to the global health disease infrastructure would render the United States vulnerable to, as he put it, the “significant probability of a large and lethal modern-day pandemic occurring in our lifetimes.” And an independent, bipartisan panel formed by the Center for Strategic and International Studies concluded that lack of preparedness was so acute in the Trump administration that the “United States must either pay now and gain protection and security or wait for the next epidemic and pay a much greater price in human and economic costs.”



    Every article I've read so far says that Trump is enraged by the media coverage ans is desperately trying to prop the stock market up/is worried about how this will affect his reelection chances.

    Here's what I haven't read. Anything you'd expect to happen under a competent administration. Maybe you'd read an article about how Trump was holding meetings with the relevant agencies to decide who was responsible for what, which agencies were going to do which jobs, devising a plan of action, coordination federal/state/local responses and so on. If I read something like that about anything the Trump administration does it would be a first. There is none of this. There are a bunch of yes men directing chaos and hoping that Trump doesn't see anything on cable news that will cause him to sack them.

    And Larry Kudlow. FFs. The man has a track record of wrongness second to none. He's spent decades just parroting the party line for a living. Just google Larry Kudlow always wrong. And they sent that idiot out to opine on a fucking medical emergency. I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Historically the American government used to have a bipartisan policy of putting suitably qualified people in the top jobs whichever party held the White House. The only qualification now is loyalty to the cult leader.
    Oh is THAT so?



    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Trump fired his DNI because the DNI went to congress and told them there was another attempt by the Russians to interfere in the election coming up:


    If reporting is accurate, the president purged his intelligence chief because Congress was informed of a foreign effort to help him politically. How is that not a massive scandal?
    Big IF right there. And isn't it impressive how Russia a decades long foe never interfered in elections before but NOW they do it all the time and no race is too small, no candidate is too small....Jill Stein? Tulsi Gabbard? Seems to me like anyone not helping DNC Inc and Establishment Hillary is also a Russian sleeper agent....odd how that seems to be the case.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    He then hired this guy, a man with zero intelligence background, as the new DNI: Richard Grenell, Trump's new spy chief, did not disclose payments for advocacy work on behalf of a Moldovan politician whom the U.S. later accused of corruption, ProPublica reports. His own office's policy says that could leave him vulnerable to blackmail. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...79310544195590

    "In this administration, good men and women don’t last long," says the retired admiral who oversaw the SEAL raid that killed Osama bin Laden. "When good men and women can’t speak the truth ... then there is nothing left to stop the triumph of evil."
    https://twitter.com/dabeard/status/1231069911411236867
    Oooh Moldova has the goods on him eh? Well I doubt he lasts long then. The name I'm paying attention to isn't Grenell it's Patel.

    Russia has done its best to interfere with every American presidential election.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ference-229884

    What's new about Trump is that previous people didn't have anything to do with the Russians. Russia, if you're listening...........

    This new guy is just a temporary person. Trump is looking for somebody permanent. Maybe Patel gets it or his boss. It'll be some toady who will do exactly what Trump wants either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Russia has done its best to interfere with every American presidential election.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ference-229884

    What's new about Trump is that previous people didn't have anything to do with the Russians. Russia, if you're listening...........

    This new guy is just a temporary person. Trump is looking for somebody permanent. Maybe Patel gets it or his boss. It'll be some toady who will do exactly what Trump wants either way.
    Which will be as you said TOTALLY different than say oooooh I don't know Obama with Brennan and Clapper and Comey and Holder......AMAZING how it's wrong for the President to be surrounded with people he trusts NOW vs previously.


    Looking forward to 4 more years Kirk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Russia has done its best to interfere with every American presidential election.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ference-229884

    What's new about Trump is that previous people didn't have anything to do with the Russians. Russia, if you're listening...........

    This new guy is just a temporary person. Trump is looking for somebody permanent. Maybe Patel gets it or his boss. It'll be some toady who will do exactly what Trump wants either way.
    Which will be as you said TOTALLY different than say oooooh I don't know Obama with Brennan and Clapper and Comey and Holder......AMAZING how it's wrong for the President to be surrounded with people he trusts NOW vs previously.


    Looking forward to 4 more years Kirk?

    All of those intelligence/law enforcement people were eminently qualified for their jobs. Trump currently has a completely unqualified Director of National Intelligence, a Raytheon lobbyist running the Defence department (who replaced another defense industry lobbyist who got the boot for pushing to buy his former employer's products), a coal insutry lobbyist running Interior, an oil and gas lobbyist running Energy, a bunch of bank lobbyists running the financial regulators, Larry Kudlow running the coronavirus response and so on and so on.

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    History will show how well those highly qualified people used their positions.
    "Drown in a vat of whiskey.....death where is thy sting?" - W.C. Fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    History will show how well those highly qualified people used their positions.
    Yes Lyle, they're going to be arrested soon. Any day now. You gullible fucking moron.

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