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    Trump abruptly leaves press conference after clash with reporters. The man behaves like a spoilt child. Very embarassing for anyone that voted for him.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...t-news-updates
    As someone who voted for him once and will vote for him again. I'm proud of the way he has treated the media. I'll say it again, I'm proud of how he has treated the media. Now you might be confused as to why I'd feel that way but I'll happily tell you the media, the corporate media have been tools, used by politicians for ages. They try to pick and choose who represents America, they've taken the ball from Obama's Administration on Trump and Russia collusion and they've run with it! They never asked the hard questions, they never tried to find the truth, they just dutifully attempted to torpedo Trump's first term in office because it's what Obama, HRC et al wanted them to do. The media doesn't work for the people.

    Trump is a symptom of how a portion of the American populace feels. His attitude towards HRC, the media, Obama, etc all correspond with how a portion of our population feels. History will be the final decider on if he's a good president...but history will also decide the fates of Obama and HRC.


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    Trump has showed he avoids questions.

    Reporter"why arent you wearing a mask?"
    Trump: "We have the best equipment"

    Reporter "What do you tell Americans who see White House people getting quaranteen? "
    Trump: "I cut off China back in February."

    Report: "Why isn't it better to set an example as President and wear a mask like other president around the world?"
    Trump: "You take a look at other countries, they want our ventilators, they're placing orders for our equipment".

    Why do those same reporters only wear their masks while the camera is rolling?





    Hmmm what does Dr. Fauci say about masks?

    Science and medicine study, researches data as a virus progresses, makes adjustments in recommendations accordingly. I honestly just don't get the major labored effort to tear the guy down but it seems to be the new thing.
    No in the beginning he said the wuhan virus would have little impact on the US. Surgeon general said the same thing. These were the people advising trump. Granted China was slow walking into and in cahoots with the WHO, who for the the first time in its history is being run by a non MD. The surgeon general visited our state at the beginning of this and said we would have less deaths than the flu. Well we had around 100 deaths from the flu and now 3,500 from wuhan. If the majority of these deaths were in nursing homes I’m sure in many cases wuhan was probably secondary in cause but like I said I have no info available to me other than my local news.

    German intelligence agents reported Xi had a phone conversation asking the head of The Who to slow walk the information about the virus being transmitted human to human. So there is a vast amount of mixed info, Faucci had contradicted himelf numerous times and his advising the administration that this wuhan would have little effect in the US is problematic. I’m not going to tear the guy apart. His been doing his thing for 40 years I’m sure he is quite knowledgeable and it’s hard to place blame on people when a new virus is introduced into humanity and the currently where it started is doing a coverup it’s even harder to make predictions. It’s difficult for me to place blame on people in situations like this. There are enough bad and good things to go around.
    Yes and as facts unfold data maintained opinions and course of actions change. Fauci made it a point to say monitoring community spread was needed. All I see as far as the new uptick in making Fauci the new symbolic POTUS piñata is a few of his quotes being overblown and a bit taken out of full context. It's a swerve, slapping a name and face of grievance because someone who should be expected to, a head medical mind, is subtlety speak truth to power. That's his job. Trump openly knee caps and does his own contradictions and has put all his efforts into this twisted two Schools of thought on what actually is and what we all want. This isn't how effective leaders create and find solutions with an uncertain and increasingly edgy Nation watching.
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    Trump is a hypocrite to require White House staff to wear masks while he brazenly and audaciously refuses to comply. What kind of a role model is he? He refuses to wear a mask. What an audacious non-compliant stubborn and petulant little child! if people see him wearing a mask maybe more people will wear one.

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    Trump is a hypocrite to require White House staff to wear masks while he brazenly and audaciously refuses to comply. What kind of a role model is he? He refuses to wear a mask. What an audacious non-compliant stubborn and petulant little child! if people see him wearing a mask maybe more people will wear one.
    Why did you vote for such a man child?

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    Debates this fall are gonna be LIT








    Democrat voters feeling confident


    Flynn’s Name Never ‘Masked’ in Call Transcripts Briefed to Obama, Records Indicate
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/flynns...e_3350021.html

    A “Tech Cut” (referred to by Comey about Flynn) is a *summary* of an audio intercept, usually FISA. “Take” (redacted from the transcript) is likely the raw signals intelligence word for word. As Flynn’s name wasn’t masked, and there was no FISA on Flynn (according to IG), this strongly suggests there was a FISA on Kislyak, with raw NSA take summarized by FBI. Also: likely means Pence wasn’t shown a literal transcript of the call by McCabe, but a summary of it.

    So there goes the "fired for lying to Pence" bullshit.



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    I don't think 85 000+ dead Americans is a joke ..no..of course not. Who mentioned left and right? ....You. Deflection.

    Like Murdoch, and Cummins for Johnson, Dobbs has virtually made policy for Trump, it is a prime example of a sickening sychophancy where you are demanding that Trump never be held accountable and that anything but Fox be deemed fake news.
    'Lou Dobbs Tonight' is an American editorial commentary and discussion program hosted by Lou Dobbs. It's not "The news" it's not going to be presented like "The news" it's a guy much like a Hannity or Limbaugh who has a show which is from a certain viewpoint.

    Dobbs show isn't even on Fox News it's Fox Business. The NEWS coming from Fox would be: America's Newsroom, The Daily Briefing, Bill Hemmer Reports, Special Report with Bret Baier, The Story with Martha MacCallum, Fox News @ Night, America's News Headquarters, Fox Report, & Fox News Sunday. Now those shows I'd say (and you can quote me) aren't bias free, but they are more under the NEWS category.

    I'm of the belief 100% of all news has bias due to the perspective of who is delivering the news, who is paying the talent etc.


    Now compare and contrast (I know I'm asking you something you won't do) those FoxNews NEWS shows vs say CNN or MSNBC if I check CNN I see that CNN Tonight is a "news" show and yet Don Lemon is the host....think Don Lemon gives a fair shake to many (if any) Republicans? Anderson Cooper 360 is a "news" program....think he's fair and balanced? The 11th Hour with Brian Williams is a "news" program....Brian Williams is a confirmed liar as it is but hey potayto potahto right?


    The disingenuous nature of that whole "OOOOH GOTCHA!!!!! CAUGHT YOU RED HANDED!!!!!!" it's bullshit. Understand that Dobbs is an OPINION GIVER not a NEWS ANCHOR. Much like say Tucker Carlson is a guy who deals in OPINION now he's able to debate his viewpoint and provide clarity, but his show while it does discuss news events is still OPINION based.


    I can spot media bias, it's all biased. I know it, I accept it. Doesn't mean truth is subjective or anything, but I know who isn't trustworthy when covering certain topics.
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    I don't think 85 000+ dead Americans is a joke ..no..of course not. Who mentioned left and right? ....You. Deflection.

    Like Murdoch, and Cummins for Johnson, Dobbs has virtually made policy for Trump, it is a prime example of a sickening sychophancy where you are demanding that Trump never be held accountable and that anything but Fox be deemed fake news.
    'Lou Dobbs Tonight' is an American editorial commentary and discussion program hosted by Lou Dobbs. It's not "The news" it's not going to be presented like "The news" it's a guy much like a Hannity or Limbaugh who has a show which is from a certain viewpoint.

    Dobbs show isn't even on Fox News it's Fox Business. The NEWS coming from Fox would be: America's Newsroom, The Daily Briefing, Bill Hemmer Reports, Special Report with Bret Baier, The Story with Martha MacCallum, Fox News @ Night, America's News Headquarters, Fox Report, & Fox News Sunday. Now those shows I'd say (and you can quote me) aren't bias free, but they are more under the NEWS category.

    I'm of the belief 100% of all news has bias due to the perspective of who is delivering the news, who is paying the talent etc.


    Now compare and contrast (I know I'm asking you something you won't do) those FoxNews NEWS shows vs say CNN or MSNBC if I check CNN I see that CNN Tonight is a "news" show and yet Don Lemon is the host....think Don Lemon gives a fair shake to many (if any) Republicans? Anderson Cooper 360 is a "news" program....think he's fair and balanced? The 11th Hour with Brian Williams is a "news" program....Brian Williams is a confirmed liar as it is but hey potayto potahto right?


    The disingenuous nature of that whole "OOOOH GOTCHA!!!!! CAUGHT YOU RED HANDED!!!!!!" it's bullshit. Understand that Dobbs is an OPINION GIVER not a NEWS ANCHOR. Much like say Tucker Carlson is a guy who deals in OPINION now he's able to debate his viewpoint and provide clarity, but his show while it does discuss news events is still OPINION based.


    I can spot media bias, it's all biased. I know it, I accept it. Doesn't mean truth is subjective or anything, but I know who isn't trustworthy when covering certain topics.
    Lou Dobbs was on cnn for years they didn’t like him due to his views on immigration

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
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    I don't think 85 000+ dead Americans is a joke ..no..of course not. Who mentioned left and right? ....You. Deflection.

    Like Murdoch, and Cummins for Johnson, Dobbs has virtually made policy for Trump, it is a prime example of a sickening sychophancy where you are demanding that Trump never be held accountable and that anything but Fox be deemed fake news.
    'Lou Dobbs Tonight' is an American editorial commentary and discussion program hosted by Lou Dobbs. It's not "The news" it's not going to be presented like "The news" it's a guy much like a Hannity or Limbaugh who has a show which is from a certain viewpoint.

    Dobbs show isn't even on Fox News it's Fox Business. The NEWS coming from Fox would be: America's Newsroom, The Daily Briefing, Bill Hemmer Reports, Special Report with Bret Baier, The Story with Martha MacCallum, Fox News @ Night, America's News Headquarters, Fox Report, & Fox News Sunday. Now those shows I'd say (and you can quote me) aren't bias free, but they are more under the NEWS category.

    I'm of the belief 100% of all news has bias due to the perspective of who is delivering the news, who is paying the talent etc.


    Now compare and contrast (I know I'm asking you something you won't do) those FoxNews NEWS shows vs say CNN or MSNBC if I check CNN I see that CNN Tonight is a "news" show and yet Don Lemon is the host....think Don Lemon gives a fair shake to many (if any) Republicans? Anderson Cooper 360 is a "news" program....think he's fair and balanced? The 11th Hour with Brian Williams is a "news" program....Brian Williams is a confirmed liar as it is but hey potayto potahto right?


    The disingenuous nature of that whole "OOOOH GOTCHA!!!!! CAUGHT YOU RED HANDED!!!!!!" it's bullshit. Understand that Dobbs is an OPINION GIVER not a NEWS ANCHOR. Much like say Tucker Carlson is a guy who deals in OPINION now he's able to debate his viewpoint and provide clarity, but his show while it does discuss news events is still OPINION based.


    I can spot media bias, it's all biased. I know it, I accept it. Doesn't mean truth is subjective or anything, but I know who isn't trustworthy when covering certain topics.

    Stop making an argument for me, that i never made, in order for it to be something you can so easily dismiss.

    I never said I thought Lou Dobbs and his poll were 'The News'. I pointed out how partisan and frankly fucking stupid the American news model is. It is beyond terrible. Even Trump agrees with me



    Absolutely nowhere did i mount some kind of defence for CNN or MSNBC just like I would not for the BBC here (at least the news arm). It is not healthy for a government to be dictating who can report on them and to then forensically exam it and pretend that certain questions can not be asked and that they get to decide what is good and bad reporting.

    Do the job in front of You.

    You President and his elite bunch of deep state friends and lovers have hijacked democracy just like Johnson and his nefarious bunch have in the UK. (Sir Jim Ratlciffe, Ineos Group etc).

    And either you can spot media bias and just buy into one side or you really have had the wool pulled over your eyes. You have put yourself into the position now of making excuses for a distinctly UnAmerican man simply because you have bought into the POLITICAL idea that he is a victim.

    He is not the breath of fresh air you are painting him as.

    A whole lake of mouth wash is not going to convince anyone of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
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    I don't think 85 000+ dead Americans is a joke ..no..of course not. Who mentioned left and right? ....You. Deflection.

    Like Murdoch, and Cummins for Johnson, Dobbs has virtually made policy for Trump, it is a prime example of a sickening sychophancy where you are demanding that Trump never be held accountable and that anything but Fox be deemed fake news.
    'Lou Dobbs Tonight' is an American editorial commentary and discussion program hosted by Lou Dobbs. It's not "The news" it's not going to be presented like "The news" it's a guy much like a Hannity or Limbaugh who has a show which is from a certain viewpoint.

    Dobbs show isn't even on Fox News it's Fox Business. The NEWS coming from Fox would be: America's Newsroom, The Daily Briefing, Bill Hemmer Reports, Special Report with Bret Baier, The Story with Martha MacCallum, Fox News @ Night, America's News Headquarters, Fox Report, & Fox News Sunday. Now those shows I'd say (and you can quote me) aren't bias free, but they are more under the NEWS category.

    I'm of the belief 100% of all news has bias due to the perspective of who is delivering the news, who is paying the talent etc.


    Now compare and contrast (I know I'm asking you something you won't do) those FoxNews NEWS shows vs say CNN or MSNBC if I check CNN I see that CNN Tonight is a "news" show and yet Don Lemon is the host....think Don Lemon gives a fair shake to many (if any) Republicans? Anderson Cooper 360 is a "news" program....think he's fair and balanced? The 11th Hour with Brian Williams is a "news" program....Brian Williams is a confirmed liar as it is but hey potayto potahto right?


    The disingenuous nature of that whole "OOOOH GOTCHA!!!!! CAUGHT YOU RED HANDED!!!!!!" it's bullshit. Understand that Dobbs is an OPINION GIVER not a NEWS ANCHOR. Much like say Tucker Carlson is a guy who deals in OPINION now he's able to debate his viewpoint and provide clarity, but his show while it does discuss news events is still OPINION based.


    I can spot media bias, it's all biased. I know it, I accept it. Doesn't mean truth is subjective or anything, but I know who isn't trustworthy when covering certain topics.

    Stop making an argument for me, that i never made, in order for it to be something you can so easily dismiss.

    I never said I thought Lou Dobbs and his poll were 'The News'. I pointed out how partisan and frankly fucking stupid the American news model is. It is beyond terrible. Even Trump agrees with me



    Absolutely nowhere did i mount some kind of defence for CNN or MSNBC just like I would not for the BBC here (at least the news arm). It is not healthy for a government to be dictating who can report on them and to then forensically exam it and pretend that certain questions can not be asked and that they get to decide what is good and bad reporting.

    Do the job in front of You.

    You President and his elite bunch of deep state friends and lovers have hijacked democracy just like Johnson and his nefarious bunch have in the UK. (Sir Jim Ratlciffe, Ineos Group etc).

    And either you can spot media bias and just buy into one side or you really have had the wool pulled over your eyes. You have put yourself into the position now of making excuses for a distinctly UnAmerican man simply because you have bought into the POLITICAL idea that he is a victim.

    He is not the breath of fresh air you are painting him as.

    A whole lake of mouth wash is not going to convince anyone of that.
    Oh ok.... I'm sorry that I said the OPINION show Lou Dobbs has is biased which isn't the point you were trying to make in saying it's "partisan".....my bad.

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    A Trump protester .....
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    I don't think 85 000+ dead Americans is a joke ..no..of course not. Who mentioned left and right? ....You. Deflection.

    Like Murdoch, and Cummins for Johnson, Dobbs has virtually made policy for Trump, it is a prime example of a sickening sychophancy where you are demanding that Trump never be held accountable and that anything but Fox be deemed fake news.
    'Lou Dobbs Tonight' is an American editorial commentary and discussion program hosted by Lou Dobbs. It's not "The news" it's not going to be presented like "The news" it's a guy much like a Hannity or Limbaugh who has a show which is from a certain viewpoint.

    Dobbs show isn't even on Fox News it's Fox Business. The NEWS coming from Fox would be: America's Newsroom, The Daily Briefing, Bill Hemmer Reports, Special Report with Bret Baier, The Story with Martha MacCallum, Fox News @ Night, America's News Headquarters, Fox Report, & Fox News Sunday. Now those shows I'd say (and you can quote me) aren't bias free, but they are more under the NEWS category.

    I'm of the belief 100% of all news has bias due to the perspective of who is delivering the news, who is paying the talent etc.


    Now compare and contrast (I know I'm asking you something you won't do) those FoxNews NEWS shows vs say CNN or MSNBC if I check CNN I see that CNN Tonight is a "news" show and yet Don Lemon is the host....think Don Lemon gives a fair shake to many (if any) Republicans? Anderson Cooper 360 is a "news" program....think he's fair and balanced? The 11th Hour with Brian Williams is a "news" program....Brian Williams is a confirmed liar as it is but hey potayto potahto right?


    The disingenuous nature of that whole "OOOOH GOTCHA!!!!! CAUGHT YOU RED HANDED!!!!!!" it's bullshit. Understand that Dobbs is an OPINION GIVER not a NEWS ANCHOR. Much like say Tucker Carlson is a guy who deals in OPINION now he's able to debate his viewpoint and provide clarity, but his show while it does discuss news events is still OPINION based.


    I can spot media bias, it's all biased. I know it, I accept it. Doesn't mean truth is subjective or anything, but I know who isn't trustworthy when covering certain topics.

    Stop making an argument for me, that i never made, in order for it to be something you can so easily dismiss.

    I never said I thought Lou Dobbs and his poll were 'The News'. I pointed out how partisan and frankly fucking stupid the American news model is. It is beyond terrible. Even Trump agrees with me



    Absolutely nowhere did i mount some kind of defence for CNN or MSNBC just like I would not for the BBC here (at least the news arm). It is not healthy for a government to be dictating who can report on them and to then forensically exam it and pretend that certain questions can not be asked and that they get to decide what is good and bad reporting.

    Do the job in front of You.

    You President and his elite bunch of deep state friends and lovers have hijacked democracy just like Johnson and his nefarious bunch have in the UK. (Sir Jim Ratlciffe, Ineos Group etc).

    And either you can spot media bias and just buy into one side or you really have had the wool pulled over your eyes. You have put yourself into the position now of making excuses for a distinctly UnAmerican man simply because you have bought into the POLITICAL idea that he is a victim.

    He is not the breath of fresh air you are painting him as.

    A whole lake of mouth wash is not going to convince anyone of that.
    Oh ok.... I'm sorry that I said the OPINION show Lou Dobbs has is biased which isn't the point you were trying to make in saying it's "partisan".....my bad.

    When will I learn my lesson?
    I said and I quote

    "I never said I thought Lou Dobbs and his poll were 'The News'. I pointed out how partisan and frankly fucking stupid the American news model is. It is beyond terrible."

    That applies to both sides which is made abundantly clear in my post. You are trying to warp my post into saying something It doesn't in order to once again pretend that I am castigating you.

    This is exactly what I mean by polarised arguments poisoning everything. Even here on the forum people just invent sleights on order to pretend they are offended instead of having a simple conversation.

    Trump is bad for your health mate. He just reduces everything down to such a base and stupid level nobody can ever question anything. How is that democratic and accountable. He is a despot however you dress it up.

    CNN being dicks does not in and of itself make that not true.
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    Trump was to save us from deep state/gates/Fauci/Globalists and now here the motherfucker is announcing he will use the US MILITARY TO ADMINISTER CORONAVIRUS VACCINES ON AMERICANS

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    Children have been spreading the virus asymptomatically especially in a school setting. They live with the elderly and that has been extremely dangerous as we can see. Today over 200 new cases of CHILDREN in New York City diagnosed with Kawasaki post-covid 19 "recovery", it's not just arguing anal retentive "death rate only" stats like a zombie, how about those permanent lung, liver, kidney damages in children and adults, what does anally arguing just death accomplish, except scoring sick brownie points like you just won some kind of sick game? Permanent lung, liver, kidney damages and now this new wave spiking in kids who already supposedly recovered from Covid, of Kawasaki disease? None of that matters to selfish assholes. Only "death" stats matters. ?? Researchers in Germany recently determined that "children are 88% as infectious as adults." They cautioned against reopening schools at all. "symptoms are not a good predictor of infection since adults and children still excrete viral particles when they're asymptomatic." Scientists also haven't found any difference in the viral loads (the amount of viral particles released into the environment) of children versus adults.

    "Based on these results, we have to caution against re-opening of schools and kindergartens in the present situation," the German researchers wrote. "Children are as infectious as adults."

    Similarly, a CDC study concluded that "persons with asymptomatic and mild disease, including children, are likely playing a role in transmission and spread of COVID-19."

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    Slowly chipping away at Government oversight yet again with another IG kneecapping. Not keen on sending in Spences top aid to vet for strict loyalists inside the Pentagon and basically muting Mark Esper concerning senior positions. Many things going on while we all look at the newest shiny objects.

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