Today in Trump

[TitoFan]

Trump Fan: "The Capitol rioters acted on their own. Trump had nothing to do with it."

CNN: "The rioters themselves blame Trump."

Trump Fan: "Hogwash. That's what the biased media says."

NYT: "Rioters say they were egged on by Trump."

Trump Fan: "It's the Dems... spinning everything in their favor."

Rioter: "It's Trump's fault. He told us to fight like hell... he told us to STOP THE STEAL... and that Pence was a pussy for not doing something about it."

Trump Fan:

[Kirkland Laing]

Why are the British so deranged with this shit? Have they no life. Fuck me.

The real question is why are you not bothered that Trump tried to ask for 11,700 odd votes to be found in Georgia and more concerned with Biden not speaking?

Do you understand what happened in Georgia? And Michigan? And Arizona? And Pennsylvania? Do you even care to? Oh no no no it's all about you don't like Trump and you want Trump gone? Why? Because he also strikes a chord with a lot of people in Britain and you don't like that?



Fine remove Donald Trump completely see what happens, the people are the ones you disagree with and they're not going anywhere.

Trump lost in all of those states. The GOP authorities in those states in charge of administering the elections all said that the elections were free, fair and safe with no fraud. The DHS department in charge of overseeing the overseers in those states all said the election was unusually well run, safe and without issues.

So far two (2) examples of voter fraud have been made public from those particular states, both Trump voters who voted twice.

The one major case of election fraud currently under investigation concerns a call made by Donald Trump to the Georgia Secretary of State in which Trump tried to get him to fraudulently alter the result of the election. The SOS refused to commit the crime Trump was asking him to join him in and thus a hundred a ten miles of beautiful coastline have been added to the coastal elitists:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...ne-call-467661

[Kirkland Laing]

Haven't missed it. Not at all. Took a couple of weeks and aside from the sarcastic gif on fb tried to stay away from the constant fray. The it being daily politics as much as the daily anti democratic wind bag. Truth is though you don't need the media to tell you those two lawyers were as sharp as marbles and as effective as soaking wet Charmin. You could have flushed the moment the one fella went to sighting Dems for wanting to invalidate and throw out millions of votes . Who cares if Trump was yelling or sharting up the walls or not.

Trump spent fifty million dollars advertising the stop the steal rally to his supporters. He kept spending at election campaign levels to get his supporters to turn up, spent months telling them the election was being stolen from them. At the same time he only spent five million trying to legally challenge the election. His fifty million spending stopped the day before the rally took place. It was all to try and create an illegal way of holding onto power if the legal avenues didn't work out.

We've unearthed more than $3.5 million in direct payments from Trump’s 2020 campaign operation to individuals and firms involved in the rallies that devolved into violence on January 6th.

https://twitter.com/OpenSecretsDC/st...61770625503232


BIGGEST NEWS OUT OF YESTERDAY: 1) Trump learned at 2:14 pm that Mike Pence's life was in danger. 2) Trump tweeted at 2:24 pm lashing out at Pence for lacking "the courage" to overturn the election for him -- thereby putting his life in even more danger.

https://twitter.com/svdate/status/1359885073433124864



Cruz warned of a "consistent pattern of inciting violence" in April 2016. Why? Trump warned there would be "riots" if GOP delegates didn't hand him the nomination. Supporters were threatening to confront delegates in their hotel rooms to back him up.

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/stat...89788921204738


Another good point:

https://twitter.com/mattklewis/statu...28939058241538

[Spicoli]

Trump Fan: "The Capitol rioters acted on their own. Trump had nothing to do with it."

CNN: "The rioters themselves blame Trump."

Trump Fan: "Hogwash. That's what the biased media says."

NYT: "Rioters say they were egged on by Trump."

Trump Fan: "It's the Dems... spinning everything in their favor."

Rioter: "It's Trump's fault. He told us to fight like hell... he told us to STOP THE STEAL... and that Pence was a pussy for not doing something about it."

Trump Fan:

Honestly cannot believe there are still some defending this anti American corrupt imbecile post election. They're too far gone at this point. He has done lasting harm to this Nation and our institutions. Blaming the media at this point, on his actions and consequences, is a feeble tired crutch.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

People act on their own accord. Blaming hypno-rays, mind-manipulation and ESP egging-on is tough to prove. Powerful Oratory is not illegal.

[TitoFan]

If a Massachusetts woman can be convicted of manslaughter for convincing her boyfriend to kill himself through text, surely the POTUS can be held accountable for inciting couple hundred people to storm the Capitol.

Amazing the lengths some people will go to in order to defend this poor excuse of an ex-President. I guess the 5th Avenue quip by this jerk was more prophetic than anyone thought.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

If a Massachusetts woman can be convicted of manslaughter for convincing her boyfriend to kill himself through text, surely the POTUS can be held accountable for inciting couple hundred people to storm the Capitol.

Amazing the lengths some people will go to in order to defend this poor excuse of an ex-President. I guess the 5th Avenue quip by this jerk was more prophetic than anyone thought.

Hey, if they can convict Trump in a court of law, then he is guilty and thats the proof. BUt they cannot convict him of it, as it is a questionable-cause logical fallacy. Very common error in attempted prosecutions. Gets thrown out of court in 5 minutes.

[El Kabong]

If a Massachusetts woman can be convicted of manslaughter for convincing her boyfriend to kill himself through text, surely the POTUS can be held accountable for inciting couple hundred people to storm the Capitol.

Amazing the lengths some people will go to in order to defend this poor excuse of an ex-President. I guess the 5th Avenue quip by this jerk was more prophetic than anyone thought.

Fair enough.




....but, just one thing......what does that mean for the Democrats who encouraged violence, praised riots, bailed out violent rioters? Does that mean Bernie Sanders is held accountable for James Hodgkinson nearly murdering Steve Scalise? Does AOC get held accountable for inciting the Antifa guy who attacked the ICE facility? Or are those things somehow different? That's the issue that will spin this out of control....what happens with Trump good/bad/indifferent doesn't happen in a vacuum and that it's not addressed by everyone breathlessly saying "CONVICT CONVICT CONVICT!!!!!!! THROW HIM IN JAIL!!!!" is in my personal opinion, not great.

[El Kabong]

'Cuomo aide Melissa DeRosa admits they hid nursing home data so feds wouldn’t find out'
https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/cuomo-...ium=SocialFlow
Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s top aide privately apologized to Democratic lawmakers for withholding the state’s nursing home death toll from COVID-19 — telling them “we froze” out of fear that the true numbers would “be used against us” by federal prosecutors, The Post has learned.

The stunning admission of a coverup was made by secretary to the governor Melissa DeRosa during a video conference call with state Democratic leaders in which she said the Cuomo administration had rebuffed a legislative request for the tally in August because “right around the same time, [then-President Donald Trump] turns this into a giant political football,” according to an audio recording of the two-hour-plus meeting.

“He starts tweeting that we killed everyone in nursing homes,” DeRosa said. “He starts going after [New Jersey Gov. Phil] Murphy, starts going after [California Gov. Gavin] Newsom, starts going after [Michigan Gov.] Gretchen Whitmer.”

In addition to attacking Cuomo’s fellow Democratic governors, DeRosa said, Trump “directs the Department of Justice to do an investigation into us.”

“And basically, we froze,” she told the lawmakers on the call.



New York Governor Andrew Cuomo killed the elderly.

[TitoFan]

If a Massachusetts woman can be convicted of manslaughter for convincing her boyfriend to kill himself through text, surely the POTUS can be held accountable for inciting couple hundred people to storm the Capitol.

Amazing the lengths some people will go to in order to defend this poor excuse of an ex-President. I guess the 5th Avenue quip by this jerk was more prophetic than anyone thought.

Fair enough.




....but, just one thing......what does that mean for the Democrats who encouraged violence, praised riots, bailed out violent rioters? Does that mean Bernie Sanders is held accountable for James Hodgkinson nearly murdering Steve Scalise? Does AOC get held accountable for inciting the Antifa guy who attacked the ICE facility? Or are those things somehow different? That's the issue that will spin this out of control....what happens with Trump good/bad/indifferent doesn't happen in a vacuum and that it's not addressed by everyone breathlessly saying "CONVICT CONVICT CONVICT!!!!!!! THROW HIM IN JAIL!!!!" is in my personal opinion, not great.

I got no issues with this... and for starters I'm not big on AOC. If ANYONE entices/encourages violence which results in injury, damage, or death... then they should be held accountable. I don't know the details on the Sanders case you mention. Obviously the Capitol case is a lot higher profile... and deservedly so. First... it involves the POTUS. Second... it involves the Capitol building.

But no... you know I'm not generally one-sided on things. I do feel, however, the old adage about "two wrongs don't make a right" always holds true.

I know you keep going back to the riots in different cities. Nobody that I know or associate with has ever praised, encouraged, or justified riots for the sake of rioting. Like I've said many times before. Well-meaning protesters for a VERY good cause... that of police brutality on blacks... get drowned out by two types of rioters.

1. Assholes who know nothing better to do than to riot and loot.
2. Well-placed operatives that seek to discredit the protesters and move the focus away from the cause being protested.

I know that... you know that.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

[Spicoli]

People act on their own accord. Blaming hypno-rays, mind-manipulation and ESP egging-on is tough to prove. Powerful Oratory is not illegal.

Tell it to Manson. Trump knew exactly what he was doing with some bent minds in the years long cook up to the kick off. Anyone paying attention knew violence on mass was a matter of time, some of the same individuals practically rehearsed it with State capital dry runs. It was a running 'joke' and taunt and mantra. Some even endorsed 'they leave us no other option' openly and some even made threads on some boxing site about it . This was Trumps end game and some gullible souls trampled the colors and foundations of Country to fall at his underserving integrity free feet.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

People act on their own accord. Blaming hypno-rays, mind-manipulation and ESP egging-on is tough to prove. Powerful Oratory is not illegal.

Tell it to Manson. Trump knew exactly what he was doing with some bent minds in the years long cook up to the kick off. Anyone paying attention knew violence on mass was a matter of time, some of the same individuals practically rehearsed it with State capital dry runs. It was a running 'joke' and taunt and mantra. Some even endorsed 'they leave us no other option' openly and some even made threads on some boxing site about it . This was Trumps end game and some gullible souls trampled the colors and foundations of Country to fall at his underserving integrity free feet.

so if it was a prosecutable crime then he will be prosecuted?

[El Kabong]

People act on their own accord. Blaming hypno-rays, mind-manipulation and ESP egging-on is tough to prove. Powerful Oratory is not illegal.

Tell it to Manson. Trump knew exactly what he was doing with some bent minds in the years long cook up to the kick off. Anyone paying attention knew violence on mass was a matter of time, some of the same individuals practically rehearsed it with State capital dry runs. It was a running 'joke' and taunt and mantra. Some even endorsed 'they leave us no other option' openly and some even made threads on some boxing site about it . This was Trumps end game and some gullible souls trampled the colors and foundations of Country to fall at his underserving integrity free feet.

And the Democrats paying bail for violent rioters, encouraging violence against anyone not in agreement with them? They're still good right? I mean you don't seem to mention them AT ALL.

[Beanz]

People act on their own accord. Blaming hypno-rays, mind-manipulation and ESP egging-on is tough to prove. Powerful Oratory is not illegal.

Tell it to Manson. Trump knew exactly what he was doing with some bent minds in the years long cook up to the kick off. Anyone paying attention knew violence on mass was a matter of time, some of the same individuals practically rehearsed it with State capital dry runs. It was a running 'joke' and taunt and mantra. Some even endorsed 'they leave us no other option' openly and some even made threads on some boxing site about it . This was Trumps end game and some gullible souls trampled the colors and foundations of Country to fall at his underserving integrity free feet.

And the Democrats paying bail for violent rioters, encouraging violence against anyone not in agreement with them? They're still good right? I mean you don't seem to mention them AT ALL.

Because that is bullshit whataboutism. They are not the same thing at all and it is just another way of you asking people to agree that Trump should still even now be portrayed as the victim here.

So now it turns out not only do you not believe in the constitution or the USA, you don't even believe in the Presidency.

Partisanship, Celebrity worship and trolling supercede all of that for you.


QANON...


Why the silence from you on that?