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    Trump is getting visits from the FBI now

    F.B.I. Searches Trump’s Home in Florida https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/08/u...iL8Td2-cWIg-WA


    Surely he still doesn't have any of the documents he took when he left the white house.

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    Persecution in this world means you are doing the right thing. This is a battle of good vs. evil and good always prevails. 8,000+ Army vets (and growing) today said this is crossing a line. I like Ron DeSantis but President Trump has my 2024 vote. I don't think this is going to have the effect they intended. Raiding your most likely political opponent is unlikely to scare them off, but rather encourage them to push forward. They crossed a line today and sealed their fate! FBI, ATF, IRS they're all going to be up for dismantling now! And deservedly so! Vets are absolutely stunned. I would never have thought such a thing was possible in our country. This is simply a violation of what we've always known and regard as sacred. I am truly sorry to witness this. By them doing this, they deserve every form of misfortune that comes their way and anyone who votes left moving forward is part of the problem. Their pathetic attempt of intimidation will backfire greatly. They're so scared, it's embarrassingly obvious. When you weaponize the IRS, CNN, and LGBTQ but your alphabet soup isn't spicy enough:
    "send in the FBI". Wow this is nuts, they are trying so hard to find something on him. that’s as good as framing. They will do anything to stop Trump running in 2024. This is nothing compared to what happens between now and November. The cockroaches are scared and scattering. Prepare accordingly.

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    Trump 2024 has morphed from being a campaign intent to a probable cell number.



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    Former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik has warned that if the FBI’s raid on President Trump’s home doesn’t stop him running in 2024, the “next step” for those seeking absolute control of the U.S. political system will be assassination.

    Kerik, who was police commissioner during the 9/11 attacks, made the comments in a response to a tweet from former acting Director of the United States National Intelligence Richard Grenell, who blasted the raid as “outrageous” and akin to the actions of “third world dictators.”

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    "I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it."

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    Third World dictators prosecute their political enemies.

    @joebiden has weaponized the US government for his political purposes.

    It’s outrageous. And creating a terrible precedent.

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    I’m gonna tell you something. they’ve tried impeachment, they’ve tried another impeachment, they’ve tried one investigation after another. This is about one thing, this is about stopping him from running in 2024

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Third World dictators prosecute their political enemies.

    @joebiden has weaponized the US government for his political purposes.

    It’s outrageous. And creating a terrible precedent.
    Yes and they label them crooks and criminals and anti American and literally commence and end every single rally with endless chanting of lock them up. "Lock them all up" and get your t shirt and little hats with logos. They literally target their political opponents and literally ask for assistance on "evidence" collection from a Communist Country on the WH front lawn. They target the press and label them an enemy of the State and bar them from official events. They spend years targeting and publicly railing against law enforcement agencies as "scum" and "crooks" and replace the heads of these entities with yes men. They also send Federalized prison guards and agents into US Cities circumventing local and State Government. This list is actually quite long, we lived it live.

    He's a private citizen he's not a God. Actions have consequences. You know, the whole "we're the party of law and order". That is so far gone from this party its but a speck in the rearview mirror. And you know what..it's a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Trump is getting visits from the FBI now

    F.B.I. Searches Trump’s Home in Florida https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/08/u...iL8Td2-cWIg-WA


    Surely he still doesn't have any of the documents he took when he left the white house.

    Another Trump first!

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/ex-r...eaction-2022-8

    "Ex-RNC chairman calls Marjorie Taylor Greene a 'shitforbrains' Republican for demanding the FBI be defunded after Trump raid"




    This is a former chairman for the Republican National Committee. Even HE can't believe the crap that comes out of the mouths of some of these Trump minions.



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    So today the GOP have taken the stance that law enforcement is only there to police the powerless and if it polices a senior Republican figure it should not just be defunded but dissolved and the Wall Street Journal op-ed page has turned into the ACLU.

    What could possibly have happened to bring these things about?

    The FBI raid on Trump's Florida restaurant is a signifianct step. It's been suggested that it's about ten boxes of classified documents that Trumpwas keeping and didn't want to return. The feds would be justified in the raid if this is the case but if that's all it is they're giving a huge gift to Trump. It would basically clear the field for him in the primaries. If there isn't more to it than just boxes of classified documents, no matter what they say, the DOJ have fucked up spectacularly here.

    It's hard to believe that they would have done such a thing. There must be more to it than we currently know. They would have left Trump with a copy of the warrant which will state exactly what they came for and what laws were broken. Trump could release the warrant now. If it just shows boxes of classified documents then Trump can whatabout the whole thing and turn it into a huge positive issue for himself. He isn't rushing to release the warrant though.

    This is a lawyer explaining the warrant situation:

    https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1556777965937037312





    The bottom line is a judge determined that there is probable cause that a crime or more have been committed and that the search would produce evidence confirming this. The feds then raided Trump pursuant to a legal warrant signed by a federal judge. Boxes of classified documents technically are enough to justify the warrant but considering it's a former prez and the events of the last six or seven years then this would end up being a massive own goal for American law enforcement and they would be keenly aware of this before they applied for any warrant. Let's face it, they were aware that they could be behind bars in a couple of years if there was anything not absolutely legally bulletproof in what they were doing and if things go as badly as they could with an enraged Trump reelected andfilling the top layers of the DOJ and FBI with a bunch of goons they could end up behind bars anyway.

    There has to be more than this other than boxes of classified documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Will Ivana help Donald Trump with tax breaks from beyond the grave?

    First wife’s resting place in Trump’s New Jersey golf course might benefit ex-husband’s long-held tax planning purposes

    When Ivana Trump, Donald Trump’s first wife, was buried last month near the first hole of Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey, few immediately guessed that her grave’s location might also serve her ex-husband’s long-held tax planning purposes.

    Tax code in New Jersey exempts cemetery land from all taxes, rates, and assessments – and her grave, as such, potentially has advantageous tax implications for a Trump family trust that owns the golf business, in a state where property and land taxes are notoriously high.

    According to documents published by ProPublica, the Trump family trust previously sought to designate a nearby property in Hackettstown, New Jersey, as a non-profit cemetery company.

    But Ivana Trump, who died earlier this month at 73 after a fall at her home in New York City’s Manhattan, is the first person known to have been buried at the golf course, where Donald Trump and his family spend a lot of time in the summers.

    Under New Jersey’s tax code, cemetery companies are not only exempt from real estate taxes, rates, and assessments or personal property taxes, but also from business taxes, sales taxes, income taxes, and inheritance taxes, according to Insider.

    Brooke Harrington, a professor of sociology at Dartmouth college in New Hampshire, tweeted on Saturday that she had looked into claims that Ivana Trump’s resting place might benefit her ex-husband’s tax planning from beyond the grave.

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    “As a tax researcher, I was skeptical of rumors Trump buried his ex-wife in that sad little plot of dirt on his Bedminster, NJ golf course just for tax breaks. So I checked the NJ tax code & folks…it’s a trifecta of tax avoidance. Property, income & sales tax, all eliminated,” Harrington wrote, after opinions accusing Trump of being primarily motivated by the possibility of a tax break began popping up on social media.

    Harrington later tweeted the full New Jersey tax code for cemetery land. While there is no stipulation for the amount of human remains necessary in order to qualify for the break, sales of wreaths, larger evergreen arrangements, flowers and other similar items are taxable.

    While saying she was surprised about the tax suggestions she also accused Donald Trump of burying his wife in “little more than a pauper’s grave” and as a result disgracing the three children they had together, Ivanka, Don Jr and Eric.

    Previous reports have suggested that Ivana’s former husband has planned to build different types of cemetery operations at the Bedminster golf course.

    Last week it was the venue for the Saudi Arabia-backed LIV Golf tournament and was the focus of protests by some families of victims of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the US, after Donald Trump previously joined opinions that the kingdom was behind the Al-Qaida plot to hijack passenger jets and crash them into World Trade Centre in New York and the Pentagon.

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    US public radio station NPR reported in 2012 under the online headline “Fairway to Heaven” that Trump planned to build himself a mausoleum on the property, prompting some local objections. That proposal was later expanded to a cemetery that could contain upwards of a 1,000 graves.

    That plan was later dropped and replaced with a design for a “10-plot private family cemetery” in the same spot, and refined again into a proposal for a commercial 284-plot cemetery, the station reported.

    Ivana Trump was buried in a plot close to the first tee of the golf course, following her funeral in Manhattan on 20 July. Her resting place is marked with a rudimentary wreath of white flowers and an engraved granite stone.

    However it is unlikely that the 1.5 acre plot would deliver tax exemptions to the entire Bedminster property – any break only applies so long as the plot is less than 10 acres.

    But every break counts, and the former president has previously designated the plot as a farm because some trees on the site are turned into mulch used for flower beds, according to the Washington Post.

    Trump’s notions to partially designate the golf course as a cemetery date to at least 2014. Plans then filed with local and state authorities listed a proposal for a pair of graveyards – one for the family, another with 284 plots for sale. The Washington Post noted that buyers, presumably avid golfers, “could pay for a kind of eternal membership” to the club.

    But Trump, true to form, had not at that time settled on a course of action. Robert Holtaway, a Bedminster town official, said he had doubts about the cemetery plans. “It never made any sense to me”. But, he added, “we don’t question motives. We’re there as a land-use board”.

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    Trump already has a plot at All Faiths Cemetery in Jamaica, Queens, close to his mother and father, but plans for his Bedminster mausoleum were suitably grandiose: 19 feet high, in stone, with obelisks, and planted smack in the middle of the course.

    Trump has kept silent about his plans for how the “Eternal Donald” will be commemorated in the earthly realm. In 2007, then aged 60, he told the New York Post that the golden course mausoleum was a rational choice.

    “It’s never something you like to think about, but it makes sense,” he told the paper’s Page Six column. “This is such beautiful land, and Bedminster is one of the richest places in the country.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...f-course-taxes

    If there's anybody I'd trust to arrange for the perpetual care and financial security of a cemetery long into the future it's definitely Donald Trump.

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