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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Republican party and actual principled conservative policy being ripped to pieces right now on the floor. By a handful of unhinged mental midgets with zero viable policy proposals, avenues and backing to achieve shat, strictly grounded in erratic chaos and dramatic tirades and getting the most airtime. Congrats maga fukwits you're ensuring future state and National losses. Just toss them on the pile with the ones already handed over the last number of years.
    https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/sta...03547387408595



    This from a former GOP political consultant* covers the situation very well and gives a look at inside the top of the House GOP and how it functions. Worth two minutes of your time:

    https://therickwilson.substack.com/p...utm_medium=web



    I would take issue with the idea of McCarthy being principled though. He came out against the coup but then when it became clear that the GOP base were still behind Trump when scuttling down to his Florida restaurant to kiss his ring. He gave up all his authority and credibility just to get himself elected speaker and when he was speaker reneged on the only single deal of any size that he actually managed to make:

    First: Let’s not forget how we got here.
    McCarthy made a deal with Biden back in May to pass appropriations bills under a series of agreed spending limits. If Congress couldn’t finish all the bills by the end of September a continuing resolution would add more time. McCarthy then broke the agreement by giving the Freedom Caucus ultras the go-ahead to pass appropriations bills at spending limits dramatically lower than the May agreement required. That would set up a shutdown fight. The GOP House would point to its stack of appropriations bills and tell the Senate and White House: agree to these or we shut down the government.
    That was the plan. But the House couldn’t actually pass its bills. The process broke down in the House rather than in a confrontation with the White House and Senate. The real gripe against McCarthy is that he couldn’t compel the GOP conference to pass the Freedom Caucus wishlist and then shut the government down over it.
    It’s the same old story: the Speaker couldn’t deliver the Freedom Caucus its pet pony.
    Is some other McCarthy clone going to be able to do that? Of course not. The central conceit of the House hardliners is that their views should hold sway over the whole government even though they only make up a small minority of a narrow majority of one House of Congress. What they can’t win with votes they propose to win with threats to damage the Republic. Same as it’s ever been with these guys.




    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/let-it-burn-2





    Finally:




    Republicans calling Republicans terrorists




    Sen. Cornyn calls effort to oust McCarthy “disgraceful”“We saw a similar thing happen to Boehner, Ryan, and now McCarthy. I’m sure the next speaker is going to be subjected to the same terrorist attacks.”


    https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/sta...09980816375989









    * Remember Max Cleland and the campaign against him calling him soft on terrorists and anti-American even though he'd lost both legs in Vietnam? Rick Wilson was the guy who ran that campaign. Used to be a real evil GOP operative. Now on the side of the angels.
    Last edited by Kirkland Laing; 10-04-2023 at 01:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Lovely seeing the Orange one in court again crying about being persecuted. Inflating his wealth to secure loans, hope he gets nailed.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/66989373
    The judge already found him guilty. It's basically now just a question of how much of a fine he has to pay.

    There's no jury in this trial because Trump's crack slip and fall lawyer forgot to check the box to request one when they filled in the paperwork for the trial. I'm not kidding.

    https://www.salon.com/2023/10/03/the...tack-of-cards/

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    Trump's ally and influence has caused the speaker Kevin McCarthy: US House of Representatives votes to oust Republican leader.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66990984
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Lovely seeing the Orange one in court again crying about being persecuted. Inflating his wealth to secure loans, hope he gets nailed.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/66989373
    The judge already found him guilty. It's basically now just a question of how much of a fine he has to pay.

    There's no jury in this trial because Trump's crack slip and fall lawyer forgot to check the box to request one when they filled in the paperwork for the trial. I'm not kidding.

    https://www.salon.com/2023/10/03/the...tack-of-cards/
    The judge presiding over Donald Trump's civil fraud case issued a limited gag order after the ex-president made "disparaging" remarks about a court clerk.

    Mr Trump had attacked Judge Arthur Engoron's clerk in a post on his social media site, Truth Social.

    The judge warned of "serious sanctions" if the order was disobeyed.

    Mr Trump has repeatedly made personal attacks on the judge and called him "deranged" and a "rogue adjudicator".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67001699
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    Shout out to Matt Gaetz. Hahahahahaha

    BYE BYE KEVIN. HAHAHAHAHAH👍👍👍👍

    wonder who the next SOTH will be hmmmmm

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    GOP learns the hard way: Turning the base up too high blows out your Speaker

    https://twitter.com/leedrutman/statu...17868255363278





    There is zero chance that Trump lets his cult followers appoint him as Speaker. He's already claimed that by shutting down the government he'd be able to force Biden to scrap the investigations and legal proceedings against him, make huge (undefined) spending cuts and basically give the GOP everything it wants. This would not happen in real life. What would happen is that Trump would make these grandiose claims, shut the government down and then after the longest government shutdown in history would end up caving and leaving the GOP in a worse position than they were pre shutdown, an actual negative result. You know how I know this? Because he did it when he was president:

    Trump caves to Pelosi

    President Trump created the longest government shutdown in U.S. history so he could get $5.7 billion for a border wall, and today he caved in exchange for $0.
    Driving the news: Trump will sign a short-term dealthat will open the government for three weeks. During that stretch, the House and Senate will go to conference to discuss border funding. “If we don’t get a fair deal from Congress, the government will either shut down on Feb. 15, again, or I will use the powers afforded to me under the laws and Constitution of the United States to address this emergency," Trump said today.
    The big picture: The president delivered nothing for his base and created financial instability for millions of others, uniting Democrats around House Speaker Pelosi, who emerged as his foil during the stretch.

    • Trump challenged her for wall funding ... and got nothing
    • He fought her on the State of the Union ... and got nothing
    • And he teased a national emergency ... but didn't do it



    https://www.axios.com/2019/01/25/gov...p-caves-pelosi





    Would his cult followers even care though if he ended up humiliating himself again? :


    WASHINGTON – Wimp? Coward? Caveman?
    Those insults may have been hurled at President Donald Trump after he agreed last week to reopen the federal government without getting money he requested for a border wall.
    But that's not how most of his base sees him, according to a Monmouth University Poll released Monday.
    More Republicans surveyed (44 percent) said the action made Trump look stronger than the share of GOP respondents who said he looks weaker (19 percent).
    And Trump's job approval rating among Republicans has changed little from his 84 percent support in November.
    "Despite what was objectively a climb-down in Trump's position, these poll results provide more evidence that public opinion of the president has been largely baked in since day one," said Patrick Murray, director of the independent Monmouth University Polling Institute.
    Among all respondents, somewhat more said Trump's decision made him look weaker (32 percent) than stronger (24 percent). But a plurality of 41 percent said it had no effect on how they view him.



    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ll/2701887002/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Republican party and actual principled conservative policy being ripped to pieces right now on the floor. By a handful of unhinged mental midgets with zero viable policy proposals, avenues and backing to achieve shat, strictly grounded in erratic chaos and dramatic tirades and getting the most airtime. Congrats maga fukwits you're ensuring future state and National losses. Just toss them on the pile with the ones already handed over the last number of years.
    https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/sta...03547387408595



    This from a former GOP political consultant* covers the situation very well and gives a look at inside the top of the House GOP and how it functions. Worth two minutes of your time:

    https://therickwilson.substack.com/p...utm_medium=web



    I would take issue with the idea of McCarthy being principled though. He came out against the coup but then when it became clear that the GOP base were still behind Trump when scuttling down to his Florida restaurant to kiss his ring. He gave up all his authority and credibility just to get himself elected speaker and when he was speaker reneged on the only single deal of any size that he actually managed to make:

    First: Let’s not forget how we got here.
    McCarthy made a deal with Biden back in May to pass appropriations bills under a series of agreed spending limits. If Congress couldn’t finish all the bills by the end of September a continuing resolution would add more time. McCarthy then broke the agreement by giving the Freedom Caucus ultras the go-ahead to pass appropriations bills at spending limits dramatically lower than the May agreement required. That would set up a shutdown fight. The GOP House would point to its stack of appropriations bills and tell the Senate and White House: agree to these or we shut down the government.
    That was the plan. But the House couldn’t actually pass its bills. The process broke down in the House rather than in a confrontation with the White House and Senate. The real gripe against McCarthy is that he couldn’t compel the GOP conference to pass the Freedom Caucus wishlist and then shut the government down over it.
    It’s the same old story: the Speaker couldn’t deliver the Freedom Caucus its pet pony.
    Is some other McCarthy clone going to be able to do that? Of course not. The central conceit of the House hardliners is that their views should hold sway over the whole government even though they only make up a small minority of a narrow majority of one House of Congress. What they can’t win with votes they propose to win with threats to damage the Republic. Same as it’s ever been with these guys.




    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/let-it-burn-2





    Finally:




    Republicans calling Republicans terrorists




    Sen. Cornyn calls effort to oust McCarthy “disgraceful”“We saw a similar thing happen to Boehner, Ryan, and now McCarthy. I’m sure the next speaker is going to be subjected to the same terrorist attacks.”


    https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/sta...09980816375989









    * Remember Max Cleland and the campaign against him calling him soft on terrorists and anti-American even though he'd lost both legs in Vietnam? Rick Wilson was the guy who ran that campaign. Used to be a real evil GOP operative. Now on the side of the angels.
    Wasn't intended for McCarthy but the overall make up and state of the Republican house. Cause and effect of the random erratic action of the mental midgets seeking the spotlight. I know all about McCarthy and he's never met a boot he could resist tongue polishing. Writing on the wall was there before the 15th vote was even tallied, again with pedo Gaetz acting as the tiny socket dropped in the engine block to bring the chaos. Just a matter of time until a vote to oust McCarthy came. I'm not coming so much from a pro democrat place as much as you just have to have a functional party to get business done and keep the lights on. Regardless of what I feel on two party system and agree disagree with either, I prefer them both semi functional and mostly competent. All this does is amplify the clown show that is now the Repubs and crack the door more for Gaetz, Jordan and the stagnant deranged influence of Trump to ironically once again find its finger on the scale in the Capital. This time not thru smashed windows, tear gas and stormed doors though. Guess it's a good thing grifters indicted for felonies cannot run for the seat . In a way though...and this has been said a few...this could finally force the majority in house to sac up and force adults to take over on their side. Because right now it's a literal dysfunctional shit show. It's not the perfect system by far, but it's the one we have at this moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Republican party and actual principled conservative policy being ripped to pieces right now on the floor. By a handful of unhinged mental midgets with zero viable policy proposals, avenues and backing to achieve shat, strictly grounded in erratic chaos and dramatic tirades and getting the most airtime. Congrats maga fukwits you're ensuring future state and National losses. Just toss them on the pile with the ones already handed over the last number of years.
    https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/sta...03547387408595



    This from a former GOP political consultant* covers the situation very well and gives a look at inside the top of the House GOP and how it functions. Worth two minutes of your time:

    https://therickwilson.substack.com/p...utm_medium=web



    I would take issue with the idea of McCarthy being principled though. He came out against the coup but then when it became clear that the GOP base were still behind Trump when scuttling down to his Florida restaurant to kiss his ring. He gave up all his authority and credibility just to get himself elected speaker and when he was speaker reneged on the only single deal of any size that he actually managed to make:

    First: Let’s not forget how we got here.
    McCarthy made a deal with Biden back in May to pass appropriations bills under a series of agreed spending limits. If Congress couldn’t finish all the bills by the end of September a continuing resolution would add more time. McCarthy then broke the agreement by giving the Freedom Caucus ultras the go-ahead to pass appropriations bills at spending limits dramatically lower than the May agreement required. That would set up a shutdown fight. The GOP House would point to its stack of appropriations bills and tell the Senate and White House: agree to these or we shut down the government.
    That was the plan. But the House couldn’t actually pass its bills. The process broke down in the House rather than in a confrontation with the White House and Senate. The real gripe against McCarthy is that he couldn’t compel the GOP conference to pass the Freedom Caucus wishlist and then shut the government down over it.
    It’s the same old story: the Speaker couldn’t deliver the Freedom Caucus its pet pony.
    Is some other McCarthy clone going to be able to do that? Of course not. The central conceit of the House hardliners is that their views should hold sway over the whole government even though they only make up a small minority of a narrow majority of one House of Congress. What they can’t win with votes they propose to win with threats to damage the Republic. Same as it’s ever been with these guys.




    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/let-it-burn-2





    Finally:




    Republicans calling Republicans terrorists




    Sen. Cornyn calls effort to oust McCarthy “disgraceful”“We saw a similar thing happen to Boehner, Ryan, and now McCarthy. I’m sure the next speaker is going to be subjected to the same terrorist attacks.”


    https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/sta...09980816375989









    * Remember Max Cleland and the campaign against him calling him soft on terrorists and anti-American even though he'd lost both legs in Vietnam? Rick Wilson was the guy who ran that campaign. Used to be a real evil GOP operative. Now on the side of the angels.
    Wasn't intended for McCarthy but the overall make up and state of the Republican house. Cause and effect of the random erratic action of the mental midgets seeking the spotlight. I know all about McCarthy and he's never met a boot he could resist tongue polishing. Writing on the wall was there before the 15th vote was even tallied, again with pedo Gaetz acting as the tiny socket dropped in the engine block to bring the chaos. Just a matter of time until a vote to oust McCarthy came. I'm not coming so much from a pro democrat place as much as you just have to have a functional party to get business done and keep the lights on. Regardless of what I feel on two party system and agree disagree with either, I prefer them both semi functional and mostly competent. All this does is amplify the clown show that is now the Repubs and crack the door more for Gaetz, Jordan and the stagnant deranged influence of Trump to ironically once again find its finger on the scale in the Capital. This time not thru smashed windows, tear gas and stormed doors though. Guess it's a good thing grifters indicted for felonies cannot run for the seat . In a way though...and this has been said a few...this could finally force the majority in house to sac up and force adults to take over on their side. Because right now it's a literal dysfunctional shit show. It's not the perfect system by far, but it's the one we have at this moment.
    It's going to be either David Duke without the baggage or straight up fascist Gym Jordan or Elise Whatshername who is welded to Trump as the next Speaker. I can't see how any of these people can compromise and pass anything that will make it to Biden's desk. They're all now prisoners of their own bullshit and manufactured outrage.


    Like this guy says:

    You can blame the Republican insurgence for bringing down McCarthy, but the bigger problem is that the GOP is now a countercultural movement of sour and resentful people who don’t even know what the hell they’re mad about most of the time until Fox tells them why they’re angry

    https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/sta...06331227013526





    In new Trump news:

    Months after leaving the White House, former President Donald Trump allegedly discussed potentially sensitive information about U.S. nuclear submarines with a member of his Mar-a-Lago Club -- an Australian billionaire who then allegedly shared the information with scores of others, including more than a dozen foreign officials, several of his own employees, and a handful of journalists, according to sources familiar with the matter.
    The potential disclosure was reported to special counsel Jack Smith's team as they investigated Trump's alleged hoarding of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, the sources told ABC News. The information could shed further light on Trump's handling of sensitive government secrets.



    https://abcnews.go.com/US/after-whit...y?id=103760456



    It's over a year to go until the election. Just imagine how bad things are going to get in 2024 if they're like this now:

    https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/s...51631818056179





    It's shameful to pick on Ron after his campaign disaster but just look at his new Loubs:

    https://twitter.com/maxasteele/statu...90886783082981

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Republican party and actual principled conservative policy being ripped to pieces right now on the floor. By a handful of unhinged mental midgets with zero viable policy proposals, avenues and backing to achieve shat, strictly grounded in erratic chaos and dramatic tirades and getting the most airtime. Congrats maga fukwits you're ensuring future state and National losses. Just toss them on the pile with the ones already handed over the last number of years.
    https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/sta...03547387408595



    This from a former GOP political consultant* covers the situation very well and gives a look at inside the top of the House GOP and how it functions. Worth two minutes of your time:

    https://therickwilson.substack.com/p...utm_medium=web



    I would take issue with the idea of McCarthy being principled though. He came out against the coup but then when it became clear that the GOP base were still behind Trump when scuttling down to his Florida restaurant to kiss his ring. He gave up all his authority and credibility just to get himself elected speaker and when he was speaker reneged on the only single deal of any size that he actually managed to make:

    First: Let’s not forget how we got here.
    McCarthy made a deal with Biden back in May to pass appropriations bills under a series of agreed spending limits. If Congress couldn’t finish all the bills by the end of September a continuing resolution would add more time. McCarthy then broke the agreement by giving the Freedom Caucus ultras the go-ahead to pass appropriations bills at spending limits dramatically lower than the May agreement required. That would set up a shutdown fight. The GOP House would point to its stack of appropriations bills and tell the Senate and White House: agree to these or we shut down the government.
    That was the plan. But the House couldn’t actually pass its bills. The process broke down in the House rather than in a confrontation with the White House and Senate. The real gripe against McCarthy is that he couldn’t compel the GOP conference to pass the Freedom Caucus wishlist and then shut the government down over it.
    It’s the same old story: the Speaker couldn’t deliver the Freedom Caucus its pet pony.
    Is some other McCarthy clone going to be able to do that? Of course not. The central conceit of the House hardliners is that their views should hold sway over the whole government even though they only make up a small minority of a narrow majority of one House of Congress. What they can’t win with votes they propose to win with threats to damage the Republic. Same as it’s ever been with these guys.




    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/let-it-burn-2





    Finally:




    Republicans calling Republicans terrorists




    Sen. Cornyn calls effort to oust McCarthy “disgraceful”“We saw a similar thing happen to Boehner, Ryan, and now McCarthy. I’m sure the next speaker is going to be subjected to the same terrorist attacks.”


    https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/sta...09980816375989









    * Remember Max Cleland and the campaign against him calling him soft on terrorists and anti-American even though he'd lost both legs in Vietnam? Rick Wilson was the guy who ran that campaign. Used to be a real evil GOP operative. Now on the side of the angels.
    Wasn't intended for McCarthy but the overall make up and state of the Republican house. Cause and effect of the random erratic action of the mental midgets seeking the spotlight. I know all about McCarthy and he's never met a boot he could resist tongue polishing. Writing on the wall was there before the 15th vote was even tallied, again with pedo Gaetz acting as the tiny socket dropped in the engine block to bring the chaos. Just a matter of time until a vote to oust McCarthy came. I'm not coming so much from a pro democrat place as much as you just have to have a functional party to get business done and keep the lights on. Regardless of what I feel on two party system and agree disagree with either, I prefer them both semi functional and mostly competent. All this does is amplify the clown show that is now the Repubs and crack the door more for Gaetz, Jordan and the stagnant deranged influence of Trump to ironically once again find its finger on the scale in the Capital. This time not thru smashed windows, tear gas and stormed doors though. Guess it's a good thing grifters indicted for felonies cannot run for the seat . In a way though...and this has been said a few...this could finally force the majority in house to sac up and force adults to take over on their side. Because right now it's a literal dysfunctional shit show. It's not the perfect system by far, but it's the one we have at this moment.
    It's going to be either David Duke without the baggage or straight up fascist Gym Jordan or Elise Whatshername who is welded to Trump as the next Speaker. I can't see how any of these people can compromise and pass anything that will make it to Biden's desk. They're all now prisoners of their own bullshit and manufactured outrage.


    Like this guy says:

    You can blame the Republican insurgence for bringing down McCarthy, but the bigger problem is that the GOP is now a countercultural movement of sour and resentful people who don’t even know what the hell they’re mad about most of the time until Fox tells them why they’re angry

    https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/sta...06331227013526





    In new Trump news:

    Months after leaving the White House, former President Donald Trump allegedly discussed potentially sensitive information about U.S. nuclear submarines with a member of his Mar-a-Lago Club -- an Australian billionaire who then allegedly shared the information with scores of others, including more than a dozen foreign officials, several of his own employees, and a handful of journalists, according to sources familiar with the matter.
    The potential disclosure was reported to special counsel Jack Smith's team as they investigated Trump's alleged hoarding of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, the sources told ABC News. The information could shed further light on Trump's handling of sensitive government secrets.



    https://abcnews.go.com/US/after-whit...y?id=103760456



    It's over a year to go until the election. Just imagine how bad things are going to get in 2024 if they're like this now:

    https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/s...51631818056179





    It's shameful to pick on Ron after his campaign disaster but just look at his new Loubs:

    https://twitter.com/maxasteele/statu...90886783082981
    The madness has metastasized. And when I hear some members express rage and call for expulsion of Gaetz aka Trump it's clear they realize it. Simply not enough they. Yet another case of Trump putting himself over all things sane too, divulging top secret specs on nuclear subs to a foreign national (ffs ) is an act of treason.

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    Oh so you just concluded without any evidence that he divulge nuclear secrets to a foreign national? That's what happens when people hate Trump so much that they just conclude that it must be true over and over from the Russian collusion hoax all the way now through divulging nuclear secrets to foreign Nationals 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Do you TDS people ever get tired of being wrong? Just curious. Do you have any self-awareness at all that you have been wrong about every single thing about Trump since the beginning?

    No you have no self-awareness you just have TDS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    And when I hear some members express rage and call for expulsion of Gaetz aka Trump it's clear they realize it. Simply not enough they. Yet another case of Trump putting himself over all things sane too, divulging top secret specs on nuclear subs to a foreign national (ffs ) is an act of treason.
    This just got published and it's the best explanation of how we ended up where we are that I've read and it's from an actual political scientist who has the receipts:

    Skocpol: We have to understand the radicalization of the Republican Party as a process that has been underway since 2000. Act 1 of that radicalization was the rise of the Koch network, which was itself motivated by displeasure with what the Republicans under Bush junior and senior had been doing — for example, passing Medicare expenditures. The Koch network outflanked the Republican Party, and they put a lot of pressure on candidates and officeholders to hew the line on cutting taxes, cutting regulations and disabling public sector unions. These Young Guns were initially in tune with that — and why wouldn’t they be? They thought that’s where the money came from and where the business community had gone.
    But that wasn’t satisfactory to a lot of base voters around the Republican Party, who were much angrier about social changes in the country and much more upset about immigration.

    So I think the Republican Party was first hollowed out at the top, and then the tea party crystallized when Barack Obama was elected president and then it ended up being given further expression during the immigration reform battles and the rise of Donald Trump. I call it the bottom-up radicalization of the Republican Party, and I think it caught a lot of these Koch network darlings, including all three of these Young Guns, by surprise — although in McCarthy’s case, I think he has done his best to ride the tiger. He’s tried to have it both ways.

    [...]

    Skocpol: No — it represents the culmination of it. I think most people in the in the media thought the tea party was about cutting the federal budget deficit because that’s what a few elite spokesmen on TV said it was about. But our research always showed that at the grassroots, it was about popular anger over a changing country and fury at a Republican Party that was not responding to that desire. All the research that I and other political scientists have done on the movement shows that by the 2010s, just before Donald Trump emerges, the tea party had taken the shape of a just-say-no, blow-it-all-up, don’t-cooperate, do-politics-on-Twitter faction — and this is the perfect expression of it. This is where it leads. The fact that McCarthy and the other Young Guns were once called tea party people because they dallied with the movement does not mean that the tiger wasn’t going to consume them in the end.

    [..]


    Ward: So if the conflict is essentially about tactics and the real energies behind the far right are cultural, why do people like Gaetz still lean so heavily on the language of fiscal conservatism? After all, this most recent incident was partly set off by McCarthy’s unwillingness or inability to slash spending levels.
    Skocpol: You’re not going to like the answer I’m going to give you.
    Ward: Try me.
    Skocpol: It sells with the Washington press corps. Why anybody believes this is beyond me. Did you see what Donald Trump did when he was office? Did you see what Republicans did when they controlled the entire Congress? They don’t cut anything, except taxes. And that keeps a certain number of billionaires — and even Charles Koch himself — happy.
    There are two strands that have played out in the Republican Party during recent years. One of them I call “McConnellism.” McConnellism is clever. It’s about using every lever of power to make sure Republicans get the federal judiciary full of judges who are going to disempower Democratic initiatives, and it’s about doing everything you can to shape the electorate, both by encouraging your own voters and discouraging the other guys’ voters. It’s at the edge of what’s legally and constitutionally legitimate. Then there’s Trumpism, which at this point has gone from bullying and threatening to actual calls for violence. One of them is very powerful in the House, and the other is very powerful in the Senate.





    But it’s a tactical difference. It’s not as if there’s a huge difference of policy. I think there might be some differences in policy over immigration, but those don’t really come up because nobody’s talking about legislating on immigration.

    [..]

    But I don’t think we know how this is going to come out. If you’ve got people in power who are backed by a large number of voters who are angry, fearful, limited in the information they get about what’s going on and thinking that it would be better to blow America up than to save it — I think you’re in uncharted territory. We are in uncharted territory.




    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...ocpol-00120009





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    “I wasn’t committing financial fraud; I was committing TAX fraud.”

    https://twitter.com/normative/status...38298178613569



    Left: After 330,000 jobs are added under BidenRight: After 178,000 jobs are added under Trump

    https://twitter.com/jeremyslevin/sta...61151077236896



    Pause for a moment to admire the whole tableau

    https://twitter.com/magi_jay/status/1710296013473263749



    Liz Cheney's take on Jim Jordan is correct

    https://twitter.com/noahmtweets/stat...01079039402309



    I remember the good old days when Republicans would oppose Russian aggression and the summary execution of the Chair of the Joint Chiefs. I didn’t leave the Republican Party because of Trump, I left because of what he did to the rest of them.

    https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...38387292279090

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