Today in Trump

[NoSavingByTheBell]

......fists fulla Nuttinboygaz.....

[TitoFan]

I must say... your counterarguments are getting more and more formidable.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I must say... your counterarguments are getting more and more formidable.

more truth, less verbage required.

[Kirkland Laing]

Donald Trump has survived impeachments, investigations and congressional inquiries. Now, as criminal probes advance on several fronts, the former president is employing his familiar scattershot tactics to meet the start of a potentially more precarious legal chapter.
Mr. Trump, who is mounting his third consecutive presidential campaign, could face an indictment as early as this week in the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into his role in paying hush money to a porn star. On Friday, Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran spent more than three hours before a federal grand jury in Washington in special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into the handling of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago.
Some of Mr. Trump’s closest advisers have been summoned to testify in a separate probe by Mr. Smith of efforts to overturn the 2020 election. And a district attorney in Georgia investigating efforts by Mr. Trump and his allies to overturn the state’s presidential results in January said charging decisions were imminent.
To counter those probes, Mr. Trump is relying on a scattered team of lawyers and advisers with little sign of a coordinated strategy beyond attacking investigators, seeking to delay proceedings and casting himself as the victim of a witch hunt, according to current and former aides and legal advisers. His legal team, much as it was for the duration of his presidency, has been plagued by infighting and has suffered frequent turnover due to clashes over personality and legal strategy.


Mr. Trump’s lawyers have questioned each other’s tactics and competence behind the scenes and have urged contradictory approaches. One skirmish came last year in the classified-documents case, with lawyers arguing over whether to be conciliatory with the government in hopes of resolving the issue or to take an adversarial posture. The latter prevailed, and the case continues to hang over Mr. Trump.
The lawyers representing him in different probes around the country have been in little contact, people familiar with the matter say. Mr. Trump has long encouraged infighting among his attorneys by playing them against each other, at times calling advisers to ask what they think of his legal team’s performance and calling other lawyers to ask them to join or replace members of his team.
What Mr. Trump is missing, said former Trump White House lawyer Ty Cobb, is an attorney who would serve as a leader for the lawyers working on disparate investigations. “He plays his own captain, and legally that is suicidal,” Mr. Cobb said. “His strategy, to the extent there is one, appears totally reactive.”
Mr. Trump has often proved a difficult client over the years, which Mr. Cobb, who left the Trump White House on good terms, said would be an obstacle to finding a lawyer to take on such a leadership role. “Nobody considering assisting the former president at this stage of the game can be unmindful of the extraordinary speed with which Trump turns lawyers into witnesses,” he added.
Mr. Trump has denied any wrongdoing in each investigation he faces.



https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-l...-base-306f0f85





Former
President Donald Trump once promised that, under him, his supporters would “get tired of winning.” He must not have been talking about in the courtroom. On Friday it was reported that Trump has suffered yet another devastating judicial defeat in his campaign to thwart the various criminal investigations targeting him. D.C. District Judge Beryl Howell rejected his claim of executive privilege to stop his former chief of staff Mark Meadows and other top aides from testifying in special counsel Jack Smith’s Jan. 6 probe.

Indeed, it may be the costliest moment yet in Trump’s long losing streak against Smith, greatly increasing the odds of federal charges against the former president.

Meadows’ testimony matters enormously......



https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...l-charges.html



Interesting:

https://twitter.com/jefftimmer/statu...82792629469185

[NoSavingByTheBell]

fookin TDS off the charts. Fantasy land

[Spicoli]

It's amazing to think that supporting termination of the swaths of the Constitution is no longer a clear definitive disqualifier. No juries, no lawsuits, no trials needed. It really is that simple. The man is clearly unhinged. If ya want a King to kneel to, ya have the wrong place and people.

[TitoFan]

Al Capone was an infamous American gangster back in the 1920's. Despite being personally responsible for countless murders and other violent crimes, he was finally "only" convicted of income tax evasion and sentenced to 11 years in prison back in 1931. Based on good behavior and failing health, he served only eight of those years, being released from prison in 1939.

Income tax evasion vs. countless murders and gangland style massacres. I guess one should be grateful he was convicted and imprisoned at all... but it seems he escaped much more serious charges that would've resulted in life imprisonment or even capital punishment.

Fast forward to 2023.

Small clarification here. I'm not belittling the accusations regarding Trump's affair with Stormy Daniels and the hush money supposedly paid to her.

But let's get real here.

Affair with a porn star vs. meddling with a Presidential election.

Affair with a porn star vs. inciting a riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Affair with a porn star vs. gross mishandling of classified documents.

Maybe it's just me, but...

Shouldn't it be "all hands on deck" on the Jan 6th and the "stolen elections" fabrications even more so than the Stormy Daniels affair?

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Al Capone was an infamous American gangster back in the 1920's. Despite being personally responsible for countless murders and other violent crimes, he was finally "only" convicted of income tax evasion and sentenced to 11 years in prison back in 1931. Based on good behavior and failing health, he served only eight of those years, being released from prison in 1939.

Income tax evasion vs. countless murders and gangland style massacres. I guess one should be grateful he was convicted and imprisoned at all... but it seems he escaped much more serious charges that would've resulted in life imprisonment or even capital punishment.

Fast forward to 2023.

Small clarification here. I'm not belittling the accusations regarding Trump's affair with Stormy Daniels and the hush money supposedly paid to her.

But let's get real here.

Affair with a porn star vs. meddling with a Presidential election.

Affair with a porn star vs. inciting a riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Affair with a porn star vs. gross mishandling of classified documents.

Maybe it's just me, but...

Shouldn't it be "all hands on deck" on the Jan 6th and the "stolen elections" fabrications even more so than the Stormy Daniels affair?

yes it should be all hands on deck if this country wasnt one big psy-op charade acting like it really cares about this or that or the other .. So I guess everybody is all in on it?? Why wouldnt his enemies go after the really BIG charges then? Looks like George Carlin was right. IT'S ONE BIG FUCKING CLUB, AND YOU (we) AIN'T IN IT.

[TitoFan]

Al Capone was an infamous American gangster back in the 1920's. Despite being personally responsible for countless murders and other violent crimes, he was finally "only" convicted of income tax evasion and sentenced to 11 years in prison back in 1931. Based on good behavior and failing health, he served only eight of those years, being released from prison in 1939.

Income tax evasion vs. countless murders and gangland style massacres. I guess one should be grateful he was convicted and imprisoned at all... but it seems he escaped much more serious charges that would've resulted in life imprisonment or even capital punishment.

Fast forward to 2023.

Small clarification here. I'm not belittling the accusations regarding Trump's affair with Stormy Daniels and the hush money supposedly paid to her.

But let's get real here.

Affair with a porn star vs. meddling with a Presidential election.

Affair with a porn star vs. inciting a riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Affair with a porn star vs. gross mishandling of classified documents.

Maybe it's just me, but...

Shouldn't it be "all hands on deck" on the Jan 6th and the "stolen elections" fabrications even more so than the Stormy Daniels affair?

yes it should be all hands on deck if this country wasnt one big psy-op charade acting like it really cares about this or that or the other .. So I guess everybody is all in on it?? Why wouldnt his enemies go after the really BIG charges then? Looks like George Carlin was right. IT'S ONE BIG FUCKING CLUB, AND YOU (we) AIN'T IN IT.

I'm not exactly sure what your point is... and I'm honestly not trying to sound mean about it.

I can't speak for anyone but myself... and what I've seen/heard Trump do/say with my own two eyes/ears is good enough for me. I'm not here defending Biden to trash Trump. I'm not here basing my opinions on what CNN talking heads have to say. I'm going on my own personal opinions on what a President should act like. You (we) are old enough to know what arguments strictly on policy sounded like. No name-calling... no media soundbites... very little personal attacks... just honest-to-goodness differences on policy and issues.

If a Democratic President, be it Biden or anyone else, had maliciously tried to overturn legitimate election results, twisting the arm of election officials and other shameful efforts. If any President sat on his thumbs while the Capitol of the United States of Frigging America was being overrun by thugs. (Only to have the poor excuse of media members trying to pass it off as a peaceful demonstration). If any President did HALF of what Trump has done, while thumbing his nose at the decent people of the country... I'd be just as vocal in my condemnation of the man.

I can't let my dislike for a political party or a candidate from that party CLOUD MY JUDGMENT on detrimental actions by the elected official who happens to be from the Party I support. It just doesn't work that way.

[Kirkland Laing]

Al Capone was an infamous American gangster back in the 1920's. Despite being personally responsible for countless murders and other violent crimes, he was finally "only" convicted of income tax evasion and sentenced to 11 years in prison back in 1931. Based on good behavior and failing health, he served only eight of those years, being released from prison in 1939.

Income tax evasion vs. countless murders and gangland style massacres. I guess one should be grateful he was convicted and imprisoned at all... but it seems he escaped much more serious charges that would've resulted in life imprisonment or even capital punishment.

Fast forward to 2023.

Small clarification here. I'm not belittling the accusations regarding Trump's affair with Stormy Daniels and the hush money supposedly paid to her.

But let's get real here.

Affair with a porn star vs. meddling with a Presidential election.

Affair with a porn star vs. inciting a riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Affair with a porn star vs. gross mishandling of classified documents.

Maybe it's just me, but...

Shouldn't it be "all hands on deck" on the Jan 6th and the "stolen elections" fabrications even more so than the Stormy Daniels affair?

yes it should be all hands on deck if this country wasnt one big psy-op charade acting like it really cares about this or that or the other .. So I guess everybody is all in on it?? Why wouldnt his enemies go after the really BIG charges then? Looks like George Carlin was right. IT'S ONE BIG FUCKING CLUB, AND YOU (we) AIN'T IN IT.

The feds are going after him for inciting a coup and the classified document thing. Inciting a coup is pretty big no? It's a first for an American president anyway. Some minor criminal stuff might get charged first but so what?

[Beanz]

Al Capone was an infamous American gangster back in the 1920's. Despite being personally responsible for countless murders and other violent crimes, he was finally "only" convicted of income tax evasion and sentenced to 11 years in prison back in 1931. Based on good behavior and failing health, he served only eight of those years, being released from prison in 1939.

Income tax evasion vs. countless murders and gangland style massacres. I guess one should be grateful he was convicted and imprisoned at all... but it seems he escaped much more serious charges that would've resulted in life imprisonment or even capital punishment.

Fast forward to 2023.

Small clarification here. I'm not belittling the accusations regarding Trump's affair with Stormy Daniels and the hush money supposedly paid to her.

But let's get real here.

Affair with a porn star vs. meddling with a Presidential election.

Affair with a porn star vs. inciting a riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Affair with a porn star vs. gross mishandling of classified documents.

Maybe it's just me, but...

Shouldn't it be "all hands on deck" on the Jan 6th and the "stolen elections" fabrications even more so than the Stormy Daniels affair?

yes it should be all hands on deck if this country wasnt one big psy-op charade acting like it really cares about this or that or the other .. So I guess everybody is all in on it?? Why wouldnt his enemies go after the really BIG charges then? Looks like George Carlin was right. IT'S ONE BIG FUCKING CLUB, AND YOU (we) AIN'T IN IT.

Trump and psyops? 😁

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...rriors-204230/

[palmerq]

Trumps lawyer says he been indicted by stormzy Daniels.. hopefully hopefully their encounter will have to be described in weird hilarious detail.

[Kirkland Laing]

Trumps lawyer says he been indicted by stormzy Daniels.. hopefully hopefully their encounter will have to be described in weird hilarious detail.

If they really have just indicted him for falsification of business records it's counterproductive. They shouldn't have done it. He'll doubtless be found guilty but then there's no way the Supreme Court will let it stand. The six conservatives will do some legal gymnastics and overturn it. Not that that will happen before any election but it's a weak case on basically campaign finance violations which are no big deal and this is a former president. This gives Trump the perfect opportunity to frame any subsequent indictments on actual serious charges as witch hunts, banana republic stuff and so on. The DA doing the charging had better have a bulletproof personal and professional life or it's going to go badly for him.



In other Trump news he's crushing the primary opposition:

https://www.foxnews.com/official-pol...ver-50-support



DeSoros just got his arse handed to him by Mickey Mouse:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/sta...78185109831680



A second Trump term would be something:

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/sta...56426034155520



More Fox News election email leaks:

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status...20321343307784

Keep scrolling with that one if twitter lets you.

And:

https://twitter.com/stengel/status/1641391404696911872

[TitoFan]

Trumps lawyer says he been indicted by stormzy Daniels.. hopefully hopefully their encounter will have to be described in weird hilarious detail.

If they really have just indicted him for falsification of business records it's counterproductive. They shouldn't have done it. He'll doubtless be found guilty but then there's no way the Supreme Court will let it stand. The six conservatives will do some legal gymnastics and overturn it. Not that that will happen before any election but it's a weak case on basically campaign finance violations which are no big deal and this is a former president. This gives Trump the perfect opportunity to frame any subsequent indictments on actual serious charges as witch hunts, banana republic stuff and so on. The DA doing the charging had better have a bulletproof personal and professional life or it's going to go badly for him.



In other Trump news he's crushing the primary opposition:

https://www.foxnews.com/official-pol...ver-50-support



DeSoros just got his arse handed to him by Mickey Mouse:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/sta...78185109831680



A second Trump term would be something:

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/sta...56426034155520



More Fox News election email leaks:

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status...20321343307784

Keep scrolling with that one if twitter lets you.

And:

https://twitter.com/stengel/status/1641391404696911872

This... in principle... has been my fear all along! Scattershot cases and accusations... shoddy and hasty investigations... all in disorganized desperation to bury Trump.

And for what?? So he can be the 21st Century's version of Teflon Don??

Damn...

A golden opportunity to bury this asshole... and he could easily come out even stronger... as a (shudder) martyr.

We're fukking doomed.

[palmerq]

It does seem quite odd, apparently the charges reported are pretty minor and will most likely result in a fine an jail time is very unlikely. I do wonder if there's some other charges or there's more falsifying of records that's gone on. Well we'll most likely find out on Tuesday when they read the charges