Today in Trump

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I've said it already maybe, what, 5 times, I didn't "waste" my vote for Jo Jorgensen, I exercised my freedom of choice and voted for her.

She didn't win. I voted for Ross Perot in 1992. He didn't win either. Neither was THAT a "wasted" vote. I exercised my right to vote in US Elections.

So now, seeing as she didn't win, I am still allowed to exercise my freedom of speech and take a look at the outright criminal fraud the democrats have perpetrated on Trump, --- who, by the way, would be my 2nd pick after Jorgensen , and THAT by a fucking long shot, over lunch box swamp creature joe biden, and protest that criminal fraud and show support for Trump in this situation.

Finally, I would STILL prefer if Jorgensen had won, but given the 2 remaining choices, even WITH Trump's IMHO botching of not mandating masks from the very start, the sum total is I prefer Trump 9.5 times out of 10 over slimy swamp creature lunch box joe.

But you don’t get 2nd choices. It doesn’t work like that.

I didnt say I could vote for a 2nd time.

I didn’t say you could.
But I don’t understand how somebody can flip flop all the time . When you vote, do you not vote for the party that’s political policies and beliefs mirror yours the closest?
I don’t understand how a socialist can become a conservative and then back to socialism the next week.
All you ever talk about is the person , and not the policies.
But hey, maybe that’s how it is in the US of A.

thats about 3 or 4 different points. All sidestepping your vague statement that "you dont get 2nd choices".

[TitoFan]

I've said it already maybe, what, 5 times, I didn't "waste" my vote for Jo Jorgensen, I exercised my freedom of choice and voted for her.

She didn't win. I voted for Ross Perot in 1992. He didn't win either. Neither was THAT a "wasted" vote. I exercised my right to vote in US Elections.

So now, seeing as she didn't win, I am still allowed to exercise my freedom of speech and take a look at the outright criminal fraud the democrats have perpetrated on Trump, --- who, by the way, would be my 2nd pick after Jorgensen , and THAT by a fucking long shot, over lunch box swamp creature joe biden, and protest that criminal fraud and show support for Trump in this situation.

Finally, I would STILL prefer if Jorgensen had won, but given the 2 remaining choices, even WITH Trump's IMHO botching of not mandating masks from the very start, the sum total is I prefer Trump 9.5 times out of 10 over slimy swamp creature lunch box joe.

But you don’t get 2nd choices. It doesn’t work like that.

I didnt say I could vote for a 2nd time.

I didn’t say you could.
But I don’t understand how somebody can flip flop all the time . When you vote, do you not vote for the party that’s political policies and beliefs mirror yours the closest?
I don’t understand how a socialist can become a conservative and then back to socialism the next week.
All you ever talk about is the person , and not the policies.
But hey, maybe that’s how it is in the US of A.

Normally. But there are exceptions.

For instance, there are plenty of Republican voters who vote Republican every time out. Except for this ONE time. They just couldn't stomach Trump and in this case will make an exception and cross party lines.

When someone is as polarizing as Trump... that's gonna happen. I myself have said I agree with some Republican party platform views... and with the Democrats on other views.

So if I were to vote, I would feel "freer" (as it were) to vote in either direction. In that case, I would concentrate on the man, and not the Party.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Trump is better than Lunch Box and Kamala any day of the week. But its much more than that for me. This is about election integrity.

[Primo Carnera]

I've said it already maybe, what, 5 times, I didn't "waste" my vote for Jo Jorgensen, I exercised my freedom of choice and voted for her.

She didn't win. I voted for Ross Perot in 1992. He didn't win either. Neither was THAT a "wasted" vote. I exercised my right to vote in US Elections.

So now, seeing as she didn't win, I am still allowed to exercise my freedom of speech and take a look at the outright criminal fraud the democrats have perpetrated on Trump, --- who, by the way, would be my 2nd pick after Jorgensen , and THAT by a fucking long shot, over lunch box swamp creature joe biden, and protest that criminal fraud and show support for Trump in this situation.

Finally, I would STILL prefer if Jorgensen had won, but given the 2 remaining choices, even WITH Trump's IMHO botching of not mandating masks from the very start, the sum total is I prefer Trump 9.5 times out of 10 over slimy swamp creature lunch box joe.

But you don’t get 2nd choices. It doesn’t work like that.

I didnt say I could vote for a 2nd time.

I didn’t say you could.
But I don’t understand how somebody can flip flop all the time . When you vote, do you not vote for the party that’s political policies and beliefs mirror yours the closest?
I don’t understand how a socialist can become a conservative and then back to socialism the next week.
All you ever talk about is the person , and not the policies.
But hey, maybe that’s how it is in the US of A.

thats about 3 or 4 different points. All sidestepping your vague statement that "you dont get 2nd choices".

Not sidestepping anything Mate. Dunno what’s vague about it. You don’t get 2nd choices, that’s a FACT!
“Oh my choice never won, but I like Don better than Joe so I’ll slag Joe off.”
You didn’t want Biden in, you had the chance to do something about it, but you WASTED your vote.
You slagged Trump off right up till the election. You never mentioned Biden before the election. Biden wins , you start slagging him off. If he’s such a cunt, why didn’t you mention him or slag him off until he won
Basically, you’re one of them guys that criticises whoever is in, then you can say “not my fault, I never voted for him!”
Classic.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I've said it already maybe, what, 5 times, I didn't "waste" my vote for Jo Jorgensen, I exercised my freedom of choice and voted for her.

She didn't win. I voted for Ross Perot in 1992. He didn't win either. Neither was THAT a "wasted" vote. I exercised my right to vote in US Elections.

So now, seeing as she didn't win, I am still allowed to exercise my freedom of speech and take a look at the outright criminal fraud the democrats have perpetrated on Trump, --- who, by the way, would be my 2nd pick after Jorgensen , and THAT by a fucking long shot, over lunch box swamp creature joe biden, and protest that criminal fraud and show support for Trump in this situation.

Finally, I would STILL prefer if Jorgensen had won, but given the 2 remaining choices, even WITH Trump's IMHO botching of not mandating masks from the very start, the sum total is I prefer Trump 9.5 times out of 10 over slimy swamp creature lunch box joe.

But you don’t get 2nd choices. It doesn’t work like that.

I didnt say I could vote for a 2nd time.

I didn’t say you could.
But I don’t understand how somebody can flip flop all the time . When you vote, do you not vote for the party that’s political policies and beliefs mirror yours the closest?
I don’t understand how a socialist can become a conservative and then back to socialism the next week.
All you ever talk about is the person , and not the policies.

thats about 3 or 4 different points. All sidestepping your vague statement that "you dont get 2nd choices".

Not sidestepping anything Mate. ***you're sidesteppin' with some 'pep' in your step..., your usage of "choice". Defending Trump from election fraud is not "choosing" Trump as a 2nd presidential vote.... its not choosing anything except to defend against election fraud, ***


“Oh my choice never won, but I like Don better than Joe so I’ll slag Joe off.” ***so you make the rules? I'll slag you and Joe off anytime I want. YOu feel free to do the same mate. Its called freedom of speech. Me voting Jorgensen doesnt prevent the objection to voter fraud. But hey, maybe thats the way they do it in the U of K.

You didn’t want Biden in, you had the chance to do something about it, but you WASTED your vote. ***Texas, where I live, went to Trump. My vote for Jorgensen didnt stop Trump from winning Texas. So even in THAT sense, it wasn't wasted. Now Preems, I could see if I lived in Georgia and I voted for Jorgensen, one could say I maybe cost Trump the state of Georgia, but that ain't what happened.

You slagged Trump off right up till the election. ****I STILL slag him off for poo-pooing the pandemic and mask wearing. AND


You never mentioned Biden before the election. Biden wins , you start slagging him off. If he’s such a cunt, why didn’t you mention him or slag him off until he won ***Oh HELL yeah I started slagging him off back in June mate. He's a walking corpse. He's the slimy swamp creature extraordinaire.


Basically, you’re one of them guys that criticises whoever is in, then you can say “not my fault, I never voted for him!”
Classic. ***not at all, guy. I ADMIT I voted for Trump and STILL slagged him off on MBS, Erdogan, and covid19.

If there's anything classic here, it's you being a very, very mild ---but still obvious--- troll. I'll let you have the last word, and anyone else, and I'll just sit back and crack open an ice cold one, reading it and admiring your words. Don't make me wait too long, B.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

ice cold one in 5..........4............3..........2.............. ..........1.........................

[Kirkland Laing]

The head election officials in every state say there was no fraud in their state's election process. The DHS department of actual experts that is dedicated to making sure America's elections aren't compromised says that this was the most secure election in history. Yet you seem convinced that it's somehow fraudulent.

It isn'r possible that Biden won the popular vote? I know that you, your friends and neighbours and everybody you know where you live voted for Trump. I'm sure Trump did Saddam Hussein numbers where you live but if you were to step outside of the Deliveranceville bubble you would see an America where the Republican presidential nominee has won the popular vote exactly once in the last thirty two years and there were extenuating circumstances for that one occasion.

Trump was a historically unpopular president, the first in history never to break fifty percent approval during his term in office and if it wasn't for the electoral college any candidate campaigning on Republican policies would be unelectable. It's no surprise that he lost the popular vote.

Not true exactly, in Georgia the dude said "We WILL find people who voted twice, we WILL find dead people who voted" he just questioned if it'll be enough to turn the election result. Basically a demand of "Well catch us doing it".

Democrats, yes Kirk actual Democrats once lamented the very voting systems currently in question. Due to the ease in which votes were changed & candidates erased etc.

Well it's not so much Trump doing the "Saddam Hussein numbers" as it is Joe Biden doing the Saddam Hussein numbers, but that's the thing about any discussion with you "But Trump is evil, Trump is horrible, he's super unpopular akshully" ....yeah the marchers seem TOTALLY not into Trump at all, the folks going to his rallies seem REALLY not into the guy....guess we should have all seen from the very start how wildly unpopular he was because the news said so.

If he still hasn't even said anything to Russia about them putting bounties on American troops then he isn't going to waste his breath over this bunch of losers. He could say something nice about the tens of thousands of mainly old people who staffed the election process (mostly unpaid too) but he isn't going to do that either.

OK so let me get this straight....Russia gets Trump elected in 2016 and then PAYS the Taliban bounties to kill American troops? That seems like a BRILLIANT plan really.

As for the "bunch of losers" comments according to whom did President Trump say that? Because according to 25-27 NAMED people (including people who don't even like the President) he DIDN'T say that, but at the end of the day it really doesn't matter because whatever is anti Trump you'll believe and whatever puts Trump in a good light you'll dismiss. I look at the shit thrown at Trump, I take a good hard look at it, I don't want to support someone who is bad, evil, inept (it's why I don't support Joe Biden) so I look into things like the "very fine people" and "Mexican rapist" quotes and I can tell you that they are taken completely out of context and whoever believes those (as sold by the msm) is dumb, lazy, or just wanting to put their fingers in their ears and think they have scored points. "Unnamed sources" "Sources close to the White House" "Blah blah blah sources"....name the fucking names or if you're giving intel/leaking, don't be a pussy about it and then I'll be more inclined to believe you. Look at who the "high level source" was of the RESIST op-ed....some fucking nobody who now works for CNN (shocking I know).

The Georgia secretary of state did say that they would find voter fraud. It's a standard line with every GOP official and one that this guy under pressure from Trump id going to use to show GOP voters, who elect him, that he's taking things seriously. But they won't find dead people voting or any large scale voter fraud other than one or two isolated instances. Like in PA where so far they've found two cases of voter fraud, both Trump voters who voted twice. Large scale voter fraud doesn't happen Lyle, it's a myth generated by the GOP to justify their myriad voter suppression efforts, efforts which actually do affect elections.

Look Lyle, they actually did find election interference in Georgia! :


Georgia's secretary of state said Tuesday that some fellow Republicans have tried to pressure him into disqualifying legal ballots that may not have favored President Trump.
Brad Raffensperger, who was earlier endorsed by President Trump, said in an interview with NPR's All Things Considered that he had been contacted by Sen. Lindsey Graham's office in an effort to convince him to discard some legal absentee ballots.
"Sen. Graham implied for us to go ahead and audit the envelopes — the signature on the envelopes — and then throw out the ballots from counties that had the highest frequency of error rates on signatures," Raffensperger said.

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...=1605657795973

What is the innocent version of this conversation Lyle? What is the total normal and aboveboard explanation for one of Trump's allies, a senator from South Carolina, to be phoning the Georgia secretary of state and be asking about the recount? Twice? And then to claim he did this in other states as an explanation and be caught lying about it?


Trump now 1-25 in court cases over the election. Crazy Rudy is now running things and is actually in court today for the first time in almost thirty years. It isn't going well:

I did not mishear this, as I thought I might have, because it sounded more like a parody of Rudy that I might write than it sounded like reality:


Judge Brann: What standard of review should I apply in this case and why? Giuliani says the "normal one." Are you arguing that strict scrutiny should apply? Giuliani says normal scrutiny should apply.


https://twitter.com/Popehat?ref_src=...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Of course all the actual competent lawyers have bailed out of the case and Trump basically only has Rudy and a bunch of nutcase conspiracy theorist lawyers left. This is the team that the president of the United States is employing to try and show the election was stolen.

[Spicoli]

Pa. Supreme Court tells Trump to jog on I guess. And dirt dog Graham shopping around pressure on State officials to crook the results, bootlicking sycophant. Seriously, this big baby needs to suck in his lower lip dry his eyes and conduct himself like a MF man. Right now he's the kid who ran his mouth one too many times, got whipped in School in front of a crowd and then called in sick and hid in his home every day since. Sad shat. Trump is going 3rd world.

[Kirkland Laing]

Pa. Supreme Court tells Trump to jog on I guess. Seriously, this big baby needs to suck in his lower lip dry his eyes and conduct himself like a MF man. Right now he's the kid who ran his mouth one too many times, got whipped in School in front of a crowd and then called in sick and hid in his home every day since. Sad shat.

https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1328852094619688963


This is going to run and run.

Another case withdrawn by the Trump people before it even gets to court:

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electio...court-hearing/


The head of the government agency charged with monitoring elections:

https://twitter.com/CISAKrebs/status...41106624901120

[Spicoli]

Pa. Supreme Court tells Trump to jog on I guess. Seriously, this big baby needs to suck in his lower lip dry his eyes and conduct himself like a MF man. Right now he's the kid who ran his mouth one too many times, got whipped in School in front of a crowd and then called in sick and hid in his home every day since. Sad shat.

https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1328852094619688963


This is going to run and run.

Another case withdrawn by the Trump people before it even gets to court:

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-electio...court-hearing/


The head of the government agency charged with monitoring elections:

https://twitter.com/CISAKrebs/status...41106624901120

And as predictable as the sun rising he fires Krebs tonight who stood up to be counted and dared to speak truth to power. Any firm still with the Campaign is there to bleed their coin and jump off soon after. Don't worry though Rudy is driving the short bus now apparently. Probably demanding to be paid in Rubles and Adidas track suits comrade.

[palmerq]

The head of the government agency charged with monitoring elections:

https://twitter.com/CISAKrebs/status...41106624901120

Good thing Mr Krebs doesn't live in one of those thrid world countries with a dictator otherwise he'd be getting fired right about now and replaced by someone who will find evidence.............

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...re/6276676002/


Oh

[Kirkland Laing]

Jesus. Banana republic stuff.

How about this as well?

https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1328852094619688963

[TitoFan]

[Kirkland Laing]

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...52520731602948

Although there's this. But it just goes to show how this is going to end up. Anything they can do they're going to do even if it's just to try and convince half the country that the election was fixed.

There'll be pardons coming too. I can't see Trump trying to pardon himself and then his family because it would look so bad. Pence doing it would look slightly less bad and Trump can leave him to attend the inauguration and fuck off to his restaurant in Florida.

[Kirkland Laing]

Thanks for this. I forgot this fucker was on.