Today in Trump

[Spicoli]

Saw some stupid crap earlier in what will likely be a regular occurrence the rest of the year. Grown ass adults threating one another over politics and BS. Zero regard for surroundings or any kids looking at them in a restaurant. There's a fetish mindset running with some Trump supporters particularly. It gets countered by two 20 somethings ranting how ALL republicans are committed Nazis. Extremes runneth over. And I can't tell you the amount of people I hear saying they just won't vote this year. We didn't learn a damn thing as a Country from the last few years.

[TitoFan]

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;d jebus christmas cannot unsee that. Someone pass me the bleach!

;d ;d

[TitoFan]

I know people get misquoted left and right nowadays.

But I have zero problems believing this is a totally accurate quote.

After hearing his nonsensical rantings over four years of a miserable presidency... I will believe ANY nonsense that is credited to him.

(His speech to college students about windmills is still fresh in my mind.)

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Supreme Court keeps voting 9-0 in favor of trump let's see what happens with the rest of the cases and as long as he doesn't go to jail he easily wins the election in November

[TitoFan]

Supreme Court keeps voting 9-0 in favor of trump let's see what happens with the rest of the cases and as long as he doesn't go to jail he easily wins the election in November

Vladimir, Jinping, and Kim are eagerly awaiting... so they can pop the champagne.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I don't disagree but are those players and whatever deals they do together really any different than whatever Nixon or Reagan or Clinton or bush or Obama did with their dealings with other foreign leaders and countries and businesses? I think it's really all the same thing, it's just one big club, and the Left Right paradigm is just there to get people distracted and divided. Look at what Lyndon b Johnson did and all the presidents and how 99% of them are all from an Ulster Scot family, have you ever seen the family trees of all of the US presidents? They are basically all Ulster Scot, I'll try to post it here in this thread it is mind-boggling to see that every single president of the United States was either Ulster Scott or Scottish or Irish or English for the most part. There's no ignoring that and for me it really shows it's just one big club. Obama is whiter than me as he has Ulster Scot and Irish and British in him and I have 0% Anglo-Saxon, 0% northern European, 0% Eastern European, 0% French or British isles, 0% Iberian which is either Portuguese or Spanish, and 0% central European..

[NoSavingByTheBell]

I don't disagree but are those players and whatever deals they do together really any different than whatever Nixon or Reagan or Clinton or bush or Obama did with their dealings with other foreign leaders and countries and businesses? I think it's really all the same thing, it's just one big club, and the Left Right paradigm is just there to get people distracted and divided. Look at what Lyndon b Johnson did and all the presidents and how 99% of them are all from an Ulster Scot family, have you ever seen the family trees of all of the US presidents? They are basically all Ulster Scot, I'll try to post it here in this thread it is mind-boggling to see that every single president of the United States was either Ulster Scott or Scottish or Irish or English for the most part. There's no ignoring that and for me it really shows it's just one big club. Obama is whiter than me as he has Ulster Scot and Irish and British in him and I have 0% Anglo-Saxon, 0% northern European, 0% Eastern European, 0% French or British isles, 0% Iberian which is either Portuguese or Spanish, and 0% central European..

Addendum here: at 60 years of age I have spent 13 years of my life outside of the United States and those were probably the best 13 years ever and I will not be picking any sides in the dirty back door evil dealings of rich wealthy influential people whether it's left or right or Center, and therefore I will not be voting.

[Master]

It is obscene the amount of money spent and wasted in elections. They are primarily funded by millionaire donors who want their interests paid for by the government in return be that lucrative contracts or tax loopholes that they can use.

[TIC]

And I can't tell you the amount of people I hear saying they just won't vote this year. We didn't learn a damn thing as a Country from the last few years.

music to my ears. it appears some did learn something, i hope those people never vote again

I will not be voting.

that's great to hear. it always amazes me that people willingly vote for the chains of their own enslavement. they willingly vote for someone to rule over them & tell them what they can & can't do against their will & worse they vote for someone to rule over others to rule over them & tell them what they can & can't do against their will. the next thing is to stop paying taxes, find a way to live outside off & non dependant on the system

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Farming, or just homesteading, learn to make fires, get an axe, learn to plant, maybe buy some cheap land with arable soil.

Bad bad times 'a comin

[Master]

A 40-year-old New Yorker did not expect to report to jury duty this week and come face to face with Donald Trump.

Yet he found himself in the first batch of 96 prospective jurors for the former US president's historic criminal trial.

He breezily answered the first few screening questions: what he did for a living (finance), what he did in his free time (golf), which podcasts he enjoyed (Barstool Sports).

But the biggest question of all stopped him short: Could you judge the defendant impartially?

He said he spent a lot of time with Republicans, and was raised in Texas, a state that skews conservative.

He told the courtroom he felt he might have "unconscious bias".

It might be hard to be impartial, he told Justice Juan Merchan, who swiftly dismissed him.

Speaking to the BBC outside court, the man, who asked us not to use his name so as to protect his privacy, expressed scepticism that an impartial jury could be found in New York to hear the case.

"I want to have faith that people can be impartial," he said. "However, I think it's just going to be tough in the state of New York."

Yet find an impartial jury they must.

By Tuesday afternoon, the court had managed to pick seven jurors deemed suitable for the job, including a jury foreman who works as a sales professional and is originally from Ireland.

The other chosen jurors include two lawyers, an English teacher, a software engineer and an oncology nurse.

But it could take several more days to fill the 12-person jury and up to six alternative seats.

At one point, Justice Merchan warned he would not tolerate jurors being "intimidated" after saying Mr Trump was audibly muttering while members of the panel were being questioned.

As the selection process got under way on Monday, the sheer difficulty of the task became clear.

Mr Trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 felony counts of falsifying business records.

It will be up to 12 regular people to decide whether he is innocent, guilty, or if a consensus cannot be reached.

Even prosecutors and Mr Trump's attorneys acknowledged in court that it is nearly impossible to find an American - a New Yorker, no less - with no opinion of Mr Trump. The court could sift through hundreds of them to get it right.

On the opening day of trial, the first batch of potential jurors was immediately halved when dozens raised their hands to indicate they could not be impartial about Mr Trump.

The remaining prospects were a cast of quintessential New Yorkers.

A lawyer from the Chelsea neighbourhood. A venture capitalist from Midtown. A man on the Upper West Side who ran a bookstore and listened to NPR in the shower. A creative director. A locksmith. A man from Puerto Rico who now lived on the Lower East Side. Nearly everyone read the New York Times.

The court was treated to variations of the classic New York accents as they began to answer the 42-item jury questionnaire. Several were struck due to their answers, mostly around impartiality.

A man from Lower Manhattan with greying hair and dark-rimmed glasses said he had read two of Mr Trump's books, The Art of the Deal and How to Get Rich.

He said he had read another of Mr Trump's books but could not recall the title, eliciting a chuckle from the ex-president, who was shuffling through papers at the defence table.

This prospective juror said several of his wife's family members were Republican party lobbyists, but he told the court nothing "would prevent me from being a fair and impartial juror".

He did note, however, that it would be difficult not to discuss the case with his wife.

Joshua Steinglass, a prosecutor with the Manhattan district attorney's office, and Todd Blanche, Mr Trump's lead attorney, took turns grilling a winnowed batch of 18 people to weed out any bias.

A woman with a brash accent at one point told the court that she could be trusted not to let her media consumption influence her opinion of the case because she had spent the month of February at a holiday home with no wifi.

One prospective juror, a Harlem man, asked by Mr Blanche if he understood the stakes of the trial, summed it up: "Man's life is on the line. Country's on the line. This is serious."

When Mr Blanche repeatedly pressed another man to give his true opinion of Mr Trump, the individual blithely replied: "If I was sitting in a bar I'd be happy to tell you."

But he insisted he would set any personal feelings aside in a court of law.

Not satisfied, Mr Trump's attorneys combed through the jurors' media to find any evidence of bias.

A few jurors experienced a chronic internet user's worst nightmare: having their old social media musings read out loud in court.

One juror was rejected for a "lock him up" post.

Another made posts declaring that superhero group The Avengers were teaming up against Donald Trump, and expressed amorous thoughts for outspokenly liberal actor Mark Ruffalo.

Another made an off-putting racial joke comparing Mr Trump to former President Barack Obama.

The drawn-out cycle of questioning and culling will continue until a full jury has been impanelled.

By mid-afternoon on Tuesday, Justice Merchan summoned another 96 people to take their turn under the microscope.

"I think this is not at all surprising," said Diana Florence, a former Manhattan prosecutor.

"In any high profile case which has received media attention and where one of the parties is famous, the ability to put aside preconceived notions about the person or the case will be always be an issue."

"When you add in that the defendant is a former president running for president and that it is Donald Trump who has lived in the headlines for nearly a half century, it was totally expected that there would a large number of people who could not be impartial," she said.

Throughout the process, many New Yorkers promised that they took their duty as a jury member seriously.

"Especially in this courtroom he will be treated as anyone else can be treated and no-one is above the law," said the oncology nurse who was chosen for the panel.

But outside court, the excused 40-year-old juror from Texas felt it would have been irresponsible for him to take that chance.

"How can I be impartial, right?" he said. "If you look at yourself in the mirror and have an honest conversation, it's just tough."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68832369

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Seven different worldwide conflicts or wars under Joe Biden and he was never arrested for all his corruption

Zero conflicts or wars under Donald Trump and he was arrested four times

[Master]

Seven different worldwide conflicts or wars under Joe Biden and he was never arrested for all his corruption

Zero conflicts or wars under Donald Trump and he was arrested four times

Trump was not arrested for conflicts or wars, he is in court for crimes that he has committed and has no one to blame but himself.

[TitoFan]

Seven different worldwide conflicts or wars under Joe Biden and he was never arrested for all his corruption

Zero conflicts or wars under Donald Trump and he was arrested four times

Trump was not arrested for conflicts or wars, he is in court for crimes that he has committed and has no one to blame but himself.

Ye-e-e-e-ah.... I was kinda questioning that bit of logic there.

Sort of like me saying that Roger Federer never even once beat me in a game of tennis.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

The thing is the charges against him are totally bogus