Originally Posted by
walrus
So Kirk, you still saying Trump is a russian spy? How about all the evidence Schiff said he had when he already knew the story was bogus? Are you just skipping your whole russia thing now? Has enough time passed, probably everyone forgot and you can come back spout other nonsense now. Remember you had Trump dead to rights as a Russian agent. You even posted proof. Guess it was all bullshit
We already went through this several times. It turned out Mueller found over two hundred meetings between Trump campign people and the Russians, endless collusion, but collusion is not a crime. Conspiracy to defraud the United States of America (of a free and fair election) is a crime but although there was plenty of evidene Mueller was unable to obtain proof beyond reasonable doubt due to Trump people destroying evidence, lying to investigators, giving incomplete testimony, taking the Fifth and so on.
Mueller also laid out ten examples of Trump obstructing justice but could not bring charges due to Trump being a sitting prez. Trump then compounded this criminality by effectively pardoning two of his people who could have incriminated him.
Here's how one of them put it: Stone said of Trump, "He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him. It would have eased my situation considerably. But I didn't,"
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/10/trum...-nbc-news.html
Here's how the GOP led Senate committee report that came out recently saw it: They also lean in on presenting evidence that Trump lied under oath, that Trump dangled pardons in an effort to obstruct justice, and that Trump had corrupt and obstructive motives for commuting Roger Stone's sentence. This is the *BIPARTISAN* account of the facts.
https://twitter.com/Susan_Hennessey/status/1296981630993735685
Here's how Trump saw it: He continued: “For 30, 40 years I’ve been watching flippers. Everything’s wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they—they flip on whoever the next highest one is, or as high as you can go.”
“I’ve seen it many times,” Trump said. “I’ve had many friends involved in this stuff. It’s called flipping and it almost ought to be illegal.”
The failing @nytimes wrote a Fake piece today implying that because White House Councel Don McGahn was giving hours of testimony to the Special Councel, he must be a John Dean type “RAT.” But I allowed him and all others to testify - I didn’t have to. I have nothing to hide......— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 19, 2018
It's obviously quite rare to hear a senior government official openly embrace the terminology and moral logic of La Cosa Nostra. But this is the president of the Unites States who you may know has taken an oath to uphold the constitution and the laws of the land. And here he is talking like John Gotti.
So who do we believe, the man who has paid $27 million in rich guy justice settlements just since he took office to avoid various criminal prosecutions and trials who says the Russia stuff was a hoax, or actual upright decent men who have dedicated their lives to enforcing the law?
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