Errol Spence Jr vs Lamont Peterson in January.

[Alpha]

Garcia isn’t getting anywhere near Spence. And it wouldn’t be a good fight if he did. He’s too damned slow of foot to compete with Spence. It would be a brutal beat down

Nothing wrong with a proper beat down of Garcia..it's long overdue..perhaps a KO of Garcia would send another message to the division and Thurman will have to fight Spence early 2019.

Another worry is that Thurman will milk the injury until the end of 2018..hoping that Crawford will fight Spence first.

Oh Thurman has of course already said Spence and Crawford should fight. As soon as Crawford said he was coming for Thurman. Thurman always tells other guys who they should fight. He wants no part of either. I'd love to see Spence vs Crawford but I don't see Bob allowing it. They've set up the standard TR route, get the WBO belt then explain why fighting those other guys makes no sense.

To be fair to Crawford, his first fight at 147 will be for a title and he has never shown a tendency previously to avoid anyone. I think that's the best fight to be made at the weight. Thurman although having unified titles has lost all that momentum with the layoff and unenthusiastic interest in Spence or Crawford.

[Ron Swanson]

Garcia isn’t getting anywhere near Spence. And it wouldn’t be a good fight if he did. He’s too damned slow of foot to compete with Spence. It would be a brutal beat down

Nothing wrong with a proper beat down of Garcia..it's long overdue..perhaps a KO of Garcia would send another message to the division and Thurman will have to fight Spence early 2019.

Another worry is that Thurman will milk the injury until the end of 2018..hoping that Crawford will fight Spence first.

Oh Thurman has of course already said Spence and Crawford should fight. As soon as Crawford said he was coming for Thurman. Thurman always tells other guys who they should fight. He wants no part of either. I'd love to see Spence vs Crawford but I don't see Bob allowing it. They've set up the standard TR route, get the WBO belt then explain why fighting those other guys makes no sense.

To be fair to Crawford, his first fight at 147 will be for a title and he has never shown a tendency previously to avoid anyone. I think that's the best fight to be made at the weight. Thurman although having unified titles has lost all that momentum with the layoff and unenthusiastic interest in Spence or Crawford.

Yeah, I'm not saying anything against Crawford. I just don't see Bob allowing it. Manny didn't, hasn't and won't fight the big young writers too. No fault of Manny, he would if told to. Same with Crawford, he'd fight anyone but will fight who Bob says to fight. I hope to be wrong, to me Spence vs Crawford is the best fight that could currently be made.

[Alpha]

I hear ya and Top Rank has a few welters that they could keep Crawford busy with (Vargas, Ponomarev). I just hope Crawford forces Bob's hand and demands the Spence fight.

[Master]

I hear ya and Top Rank has a few welters that they could keep Crawford busy with (Vargas, Ponomarev). I just hope Crawford forces Bob's hand and demands the Spence fight.

Top rank fighters fight only top rank fighters.

[Ron Swanson]

Garcia isn’t getting anywhere near Spence. And it wouldn’t be a good fight if he did. He’s too damned slow of foot to compete with Spence. It would be a brutal beat down

Nothing wrong with a proper beat down of Garcia..it's long overdue..perhaps a KO of Garcia would send another message to the division and Thurman will have to fight Spence early 2019.

Another worry is that Thurman will milk the injury until the end of 2018..hoping that Crawford will fight Spence first.

Oh Thurman has of course already said Spence and Crawford should fight. As soon as Crawford said he was coming for Thurman. Thurman always tells other guys who they should fight. He wants no part of either. I'd love to see Spence vs Crawford but I don't see Bob allowing it. They've set up the standard TR route, get the WBO belt then explain why fighting those other guys makes no sense.

To be fair to Crawford, his first fight at 147 will be for a title and he has never shown a tendency previously to avoid anyone. I think that's the best fight to be made at the weight. Thurman although having unified titles has lost all that momentum with the layoff and unenthusiastic interest in Spence or Crawford.

Yeah, I'm not saying anything against Crawford. I just don't see Bob allowing it. Manny didn't, hasn't and won't fight the big young writers too. No fault of Manny, he would if told to. Same with Crawford, he'd fight anyone but will fight who Bob says to fight. I hope to be wrong, to me Spence vs Crawford is the best fight that could currently be made.

What's this fool on about? Nobody demanded Manny fight writers, no money in it

[Alpha]

I hear ya and Top Rank has a few welters that they could keep Crawford busy with (Vargas, Ponomarev). I just hope Crawford forces Bob's hand and demands the Spence fight.

Top rank fighters fight only top rank fighters.

Arum worked with Haymon for Crawford/ Molina.

Looks like Ocampo may be the lamb to the slaughter.

[Ron Swanson]

I hear ya and Top Rank has a few welters that they could keep Crawford busy with (Vargas, Ponomarev). I just hope Crawford forces Bob's hand and demands the Spence fight.

Top rank fighters fight only top rank fighters.

Arum worked with Haymon for Crawford/ Molina.

Looks like Ocampo may be the lamb to the slaughter.

Bob will work with Haymon when it is majorly in his favor. Spence/Crawford has multiple roadblocks.

1)Spence might win
2)Spence gets paid

If Spence was cheap and a sure win, no problem. But that isn't the case.

[Alpha]

I hear ya and Top Rank has a few welters that they could keep Crawford busy with (Vargas, Ponomarev). I just hope Crawford forces Bob's hand and demands the Spence fight.

Top rank fighters fight only top rank fighters.

Arum worked with Haymon for Crawford/ Molina.

Looks like Ocampo may be the lamb to the slaughter.

Bob will work with Haymon when it is majorly in his favor. Spence/Crawford has multiple roadblocks.

1)Spence might win
2)Spence gets paid

If Spence was cheap and a sure win, no problem. But that isn't the case.

I understand that, but with Thurman and co. not wanting to play ball those 2 may have to seek out each other.