Some of you have Parker to win...

[THE THIRD MAN]

Joshua should win this inside of 2 rounds...

[Fenster]

People backing Parker are not idiots, it's price related not even money, they are not betting £10 to win £10, they're betting £10 to win £70.

I can make a "value" case for backing Parker around 7/1 - You have a 26-year-old in his prime, unbeaten title holder, who has proven he can defend his title away from home, has never once been on the deck let alone stopped, has a 75% sparko ratio, has ended 15 of 18 inside 4 rounds, has successfully won over 12 rounds four times and has proven himself over a variety of styles - from Takam to Dimitrenko to Hughie.

Joshua's flaws - Chin? He's been down and badly rocked. Stamina? He noticeably has slowed, losing rounds through lack of activity a couple of times. Speed? He looks the slower, less fluid mover of the two.

At the odds there's plenty of upside in Parker.

[Primo Carnera]

People backing Parker are not idiots, it's price related not even money, they are not betting £10 to win £10, they're betting £10 to win £70.

I can make a "value" case for backing Parker around 7/1 - You have a 26-year-old in his prime, unbeaten title holder, who has proven he can defend his title away from home, has never once been on the deck let alone stopped, has a 75% sparko ratio, has ended 15 of 18 inside 4 rounds, has successfully won over 12 rounds four times and has proven himself over a variety of styles - from Takam to Dimitrenko to Hughie.

Joshua's flaws - Chin? He's been down and badly rocked. Stamina? He noticeably has slowed, losing rounds through lack of activity a couple of times. Speed? He looks the slower, less fluid mover of the two.

At the odds there's plenty of upside in Parker.

Who do you think will win?

[Fenster]

People backing Parker are not idiots, it's price related not even money, they are not betting £10 to win £10, they're betting £10 to win £70.

I can make a "value" case for backing Parker around 7/1 - You have a 26-year-old in his prime, unbeaten title holder, who has proven he can defend his title away from home, has never once been on the deck let alone stopped, has a 75% sparko ratio, has ended 15 of 18 inside 4 rounds, has successfully won over 12 rounds four times and has proven himself over a variety of styles - from Takam to Dimitrenko to Hughie.

Joshua's flaws - Chin? He's been down and badly rocked. Stamina? He noticeably has slowed, losing rounds through lack of activity a couple of times. Speed? He looks the slower, less fluid mover of the two.

At the odds there's plenty of upside in Parker.

Who do you think will win?

The geezer who is 10/1 on! Of course.

"Value" is determined by whether or not you're betting the correct price, it has nothing to do with the actual price (10/1 on is value in one situation and poor value in another). Now traders (like Silkey) are maths geeks working to margins, percentages and will have ratings, models and whatnot.

In its simplest form - "value" is determined by whether or not the punter thinks the bookie have set the odds correctly. So if I determine Parker is a 5/1 shot and the bookies offer 7/1 I have a "value" bet based on my judgement. If they make him 3/1 I have no bet. Now whether or not my judgement is any good is irrelevant, if it is l'll earn money if it's not i'll go skint. Simple.

[ykdadamaja]

There is too much at stake for AJ to lose this fight. The money to be made against Wilder will be bigger. May even become obscene like Mike Tyson money. Plus AJ is fighting at home. They are gonna do what it takes to ensure he gets a win.

[Primo Carnera]

People backing Parker are not idiots, it's price related not even money, they are not betting £10 to win £10, they're betting £10 to win £70.

I can make a "value" case for backing Parker around 7/1 - You have a 26-year-old in his prime, unbeaten title holder, who has proven he can defend his title away from home, has never once been on the deck let alone stopped, has a 75% sparko ratio, has ended 15 of 18 inside 4 rounds, has successfully won over 12 rounds four times and has proven himself over a variety of styles - from Takam to Dimitrenko to Hughie.

Joshua's flaws - Chin? He's been down and badly rocked. Stamina? He noticeably has slowed, losing rounds through lack of activity a couple of times. Speed? He looks the slower, less fluid mover of the two.

At the odds there's plenty of upside in Parker.

Who do you think will win?

The geezer who is 10/1 on! Of course.

"Value" is determined by whether or not you're betting the correct price, it has nothing to do with the actual price (10/1 on is value in one situation and poor value in another). Now traders (like Silkey) are maths geeks working to margins, percentages and will have ratings, models and whatnot.

In its simplest form - "value" is determined by whether or not the punter thinks the bookie have set the odds correctly. So if I determine Parker is a 5/1 shot and the bookies offer 7/1 I have a "value" bet based on my judgement. If they make him 3/1 I have no bet. Now whether or not my judgement is any good is irrelevant, if it is l'll earn money if it's not i'll go skint. Simple.

I get all your points, and don't get me wrong because I'm a bit of a hypocrite seeing as I have had bets based on "good Value" myself.
but let's be honest with ourselves and look in the mirror , and we will see that you can "think" that a bet is value as much as you like, but if you "know" it's a losing bet, it's not value, it's just throwing money away.
Like I said , I've done it , Silkey who you mentioned has even done it himself, hell, we've all done it!
My point is how fucking warped is the human mind , and how fucking stupid are WE?

[Fenster]

People backing Parker are not idiots, it's price related not even money, they are not betting £10 to win £10, they're betting £10 to win £70.

I can make a "value" case for backing Parker around 7/1 - You have a 26-year-old in his prime, unbeaten title holder, who has proven he can defend his title away from home, has never once been on the deck let alone stopped, has a 75% sparko ratio, has ended 15 of 18 inside 4 rounds, has successfully won over 12 rounds four times and has proven himself over a variety of styles - from Takam to Dimitrenko to Hughie.

Joshua's flaws - Chin? He's been down and badly rocked. Stamina? He noticeably has slowed, losing rounds through lack of activity a couple of times. Speed? He looks the slower, less fluid mover of the two.

At the odds there's plenty of upside in Parker.

Who do you think will win?

The geezer who is 10/1 on! Of course.

"Value" is determined by whether or not you're betting the correct price, it has nothing to do with the actual price (10/1 on is value in one situation and poor value in another). Now traders (like Silkey) are maths geeks working to margins, percentages and will have ratings, models and whatnot.

In its simplest form - "value" is determined by whether or not the punter thinks the bookie have set the odds correctly. So if I determine Parker is a 5/1 shot and the bookies offer 7/1 I have a "value" bet based on my judgement. If they make him 3/1 I have no bet. Now whether or not my judgement is any good is irrelevant, if it is l'll earn money if it's not i'll go skint. Simple.

I get all your points, and don't get me wrong because I'm a bit of a hypocrite seeing as I have had bets based on "good Value" myself.
but let's be honest with ourselves and look in the mirror , and we will see that you can "think" that a bet is value as much as you like, but if you "know" it's a losing bet, it's not value, it's just throwing money away.
Like I said , I've done it , Silkey who you mentioned has even done it himself, hell, we've all done it!
My point is how fucking warped is the human mind , and how fucking stupid are WE?

It depends how serious you bet (and i'm not talking about being a pro gambler). It's pretty common for regular bettors to keep records, with the longterm being the goal. Silkey will be the first to tell you people know more about boxing than him but he'll successfully take money from them because they don't understand odds.

A tipster could select 10 from 20 winners yet show a loss, whilst another backs 1 from 20 yet shows a profit. If you are betting on things that are the wrong price, under the odds, you are throwing money away, for sure.

I've had far too many last fence falls and blacks off their spot cost me fortunes (relative) to believe in certainties

[Dia bando]

I expect AJ to outbox him for a few rounds he gets KO or the ref stops him taking a beating.

[Silkeyjoe]

Joshua vs Parker: Bookies reveal majority of punters are backing Joseph Parker to beat Anthony Joshua https://t.co/jaVT8qiBww

Haven't read it, just saw the headline

I opened it and then realized it was The Sun and nearly punched my screen in! Nobody will back AJ at 1/9 , you would have to put down a fortune to win enough for a pina colada!
I would be willing to bet that if you asked all of the people who have backed Parker who they honestly think will win the fight, at least 90% would say Joshua. It's something that gamblers do a lot . They're looking "for the value bet." I even pointed out @Silkeyjoe doing it the other week and he works in the betting industry!!!!!!!
it ain't no value if the guy you've bet on gets laid out cold!

Unfortunately in boxing competitive fights dont happen too often.

Ive backed Joshua points here at 6/1.

[ykdadamaja]

I expect AJ to outbox him for a few rounds he gets KO or the ref stops him taking a beating.

I don't think Parker has the power to keep AJ off of him for 12 rounds. If he runs like he did with Ruiz, he is gonna lose rounds.