Originally Posted by
Gandalf
Firstly Dennis, this response will seem odd as your own was so long that I cannot reply to it with your data included, so i will just number my points and you can follow as you wish.
1. What do I mean by family planning? I mean that if you are looking for a man to father your child you need to choose that man incredibly carefully. That is the power of being a woman. You need to look at income, reliability, ability to work, provide, care, etc. You need to read up on parenting yourself and not just go on the muscle memory of one's own childhood. Think about nutrition, well being, nurture, really make sure you are being the best possible mother you can be. No white person is stopping a black person from choosing a partner carefully or reading a few books and practicing what one learns.
2. 'Let nature run its course' means that those who make bad decisions have to live with that. It also means accepting that not everyone has the capacity to be the best and that applies to ANY race.
3. I do not assume that there are IQ differences, there are IQ differences. Others like Peterson and Harris have observed the same thing and many others have done the research. That is not anything new or surprising unless you live in a lefty bubble.
There are differences between races. Have you ever been to Japan and seen how svelte and small many are? Have you observed the color, eye shape, or size an Asian person with say a Black person. We have evolved differently in different parts of the world over a very long time. Go from the West to the East of Russia and observe how time zone by time zone the people become more and more Asian looking. If penis size, or height can evolve differently, then why not the mind? It even applies to diseases and how likely we are to get them. Thus skin cancer is more me and diabetes more you.
And that is even going by the biological when I am constantly harking back to point 1 which is that I think nurture is damn important and that some groups do it better than others. I do not think Whites are top of the intelligence chain. It is East Asians. Factually so and having lived in East Asia I have seen the difference in nurturing. Kids are raised to be doctors and teachers. Kids are raised learning languages and complex Mathematics as children. Kids are pushed to achieve within the bounds of strong family networks. This occurs even in North America where Asian kids outperform Whites, Latinos, and Blacks. I honestly believe nurturing might have a little bit to do with it, but there is the genetic argument that won't go away. However, I have seen with my own eyes the difference between England and Asia in that regard. Kids in the UK are much more likely to grow up in single parent households outside of wedlock and in pverty that does not work unless the kid has inner resources and resolve.
4. I brought up slavery because that is a commonly held trope and as you agree, we were all slaves in a Feudal system. If you are going to talk about slavery as I see you then do, let's not forget that people were traded. It was black chiefs selling their own people for resources. The White people were wrong to do that, but so were the black Chiefs. At the end of the day though slavery was abolished a very long time ago and nobody thinks it was a good thing. Morals and times were different. We used to burn Protestants alive and publicly hang people. Times do change.
Have you actually studied the history of Ireland in the face of hundreds of years of English land theft, wars and occupation? They were not having a very fun time either whence so many being in America today. If your property is stolen and you are in effect a vagrant, then what are you? Free for what exactly? Life could be awful for anybody in those days.
I agree that things like Jim Crow were morally reprehensible, but what has been just as reprehensible is to encourage the break up of the family from strong families to 77% of kids born outside of wedlock today. That is devastating and to a degree, I would agree with you that White people passed those Poverty laws that have made people fat, lazy, and dependent.
5. I lived with a black person when I was at University and though her experiences were obviously different to mine she was not experiencing any of this persecution you are talking about. She studied hard, came out socializing, worked, nobody was holding her down for being black. You are British right? Surely you realize that Britain is a very tolerant country. I have worked with black PhD holders and there is non of this Denilson style rhetoric. If she was being held down then why would she be in such a good place? It was effort and smarts that got her somewhere. Same with other black people I have known, but my life means I only meet educated black people.
6. That's the thing Dennis, I do not buy into victimhood. Sure, bad things happened in the past to everybody, but we are living today and you are living in a country where the BBC specifically hires non whites. What more do you want? Affirmative action? You have it. Then you have arguments for reparations. From whom to who? And where does that end? Thus I believe in starting with yourself and getting an education, improving yourself, earning some money, saving some money, and building a decent life. It isn't that hard. However, from what I hear about US schools the same patterns exist and the black parents are more likely to be less involved in their education, be encouraged by peers to look down on learning, and thus it all starts from that rather than systemic racism. It starts with good parenting and no not everybody will succeed if there is a genetic component to intelligence, so you do your best with good nurturing and see if that actually has any impact.
7. No, guys like you make excuses for not even trying to improve and just want to wheel out excuses, but not only that. You actively consider the white man your enemy which is truly insidious.
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