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    Default Re: Daniel Jacobs v Julio Cesar Chavez Jr

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    Personally I couldn't give less of a flying one who moved the fight. DAZN has still been a new negative to boxing, as far as I'm concerned. Junior is also who he is... a coattail-riding moron.

    The fact that the fight was moved to Arizona is deplorable. If you're suspended you're suspended.... period.
    Is not take Tito too much time to get on Junior derriere! His all-time fave im sure after Ging'


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    I used likey mexicans like Barrera, Marquez, and Finito. No make like dey used to. Ginger and Melon Head are embarasmint to thosse old guys.

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    Haha how'd I miss hearing about this.. likely Jacobs wins easily, but, he's been hurt plenty before and Chavez can punch if nothing else, an upset wouldn't shock me.
    Chavez isn’t that big of a puncher. He was always just way way heavier than his opponents and used diuretics to get down to the weight to have about a 30 pound weight advantage. We saw that when he fought Fonfara (who wasn’t really that good), he got beat up very badly.
    I'm not trying to sell him as one, just saying that he is dangerous enough. Jacobs could be on the slide and has been hot and cold before, I kind of see this as a lose lose for him career wise.

    Lose-lose is right though, p4p. Jacobs wins... he's beaten a long irrelevant fighter and proves basically nothing. Jacobs loses... and he drops some serious notches on the totem pole. All Junior has is the puncher's chance. Memories of Junior vs Sergio where Martinez was pitching a perfect game and Junior almost pulled it off with a lucky punch toward the end.

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    Default Re: Daniel Jacobs v Julio Cesar Chavez Jr

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    Haha how'd I miss hearing about this.. likely Jacobs wins easily, but, he's been hurt plenty before and Chavez can punch if nothing else, an upset wouldn't shock me.
    Chavez isn’t that big of a puncher. He was always just way way heavier than his opponents and used diuretics to get down to the weight to have about a 30 pound weight advantage. We saw that when he fought Fonfara (who wasn’t really that good), he got beat up very badly.
    I'm not trying to sell him as one, just saying that he is dangerous enough. Jacobs could be on the slide and has been hot and cold before, I kind of see this as a lose lose for him career wise.

    Lose-lose is right though, p4p. Jacobs wins... he's beaten a long irrelevant fighter and proves basically nothing. Jacobs loses... and he drops some serious notches on the totem pole. All Junior has is the puncher's chance. Memories of Junior vs Sergio where Martinez was pitching a perfect game and Junior almost pulled it off with a lucky punch toward the end.
    But Martinez was much much smaller than Chavez. I don’t think that Chavez is much bigger than Jacobs.

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    Haha how'd I miss hearing about this.. likely Jacobs wins easily, but, he's been hurt plenty before and Chavez can punch if nothing else, an upset wouldn't shock me.
    Chavez isn’t that big of a puncher. He was always just way way heavier than his opponents and used diuretics to get down to the weight to have about a 30 pound weight advantage. We saw that when he fought Fonfara (who wasn’t really that good), he got beat up very badly.
    I'm not trying to sell him as one, just saying that he is dangerous enough. Jacobs could be on the slide and has been hot and cold before, I kind of see this as a lose lose for him career wise.

    Lose-lose is right though, p4p. Jacobs wins... he's beaten a long irrelevant fighter and proves basically nothing. Jacobs loses... and he drops some serious notches on the totem pole. All Junior has is the puncher's chance. Memories of Junior vs Sergio where Martinez was pitching a perfect game and Junior almost pulled it off with a lucky punch toward the end.
    But Martinez was much much smaller than Chavez. I don’t think that Chavez is much bigger than Jacobs.

    Actually I wasn't trying to compare Martinez and Jacobs, and you're right about the size. Just remembering how Junior fought someone who could outbox him with one arm tied behind his back, and the only thing he had going for him was the possibility of a lucky punch. Jacobs is also a much better boxer than Junior (not a stretch for any professional boxer), but if he chooses to get into exchanges, there's always that chance that Junior could tag him. Then again, if Jacobs went the full 12 with Canelo, he'd have to really screw up to lose to Junior.

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    Default Re: Daniel Jacobs v Julio Cesar Chavez Jr

    Joke of a fight made to capitalize off of Chavez Juniors Namesake and get bigger money that Jacobs would have gotten fighting someone else. Call it a hunch but I got a feeling Chavez does better than many people expected (not great but not as horrible) and Jacobs being on the decline since the GGG and canelo fights gets confirmed even though a big reason the picked Chavez is the high reward/ low risk.
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    Nevada commission threatens Matchroom's promoter's license over Chavez Jr.'s skipped drug test

    The executive director of the Nevada Athletic Commission threatened disciplinary action against a leading boxing promoter if his company goes forward with a bout on Dec. 20 in Phoenix involving Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., after Chavez refused to submit to a request for an anti-doping test from the commission on Oct. 24.

    Matchroom Sport, headed by Eddie Hearn, was planning to put a super middleweight bout between Chavez Jr., the son of the Hall of Famer Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., on Dec. 20 in Las Vegas against Daniel Jacobs in a bout that would be streamed on DAZN.

    An anti-doping collection agent showed up unannounced on Oct. 24 at the Wild Card Gym in Hollywood, California, where Chavez was training under Freddie Roach. Chavez refused to submit to the test and left the gym without providing a sample.

    Multiple sources told Yahoo Sports that this is not the first time Chavez has refused to submit to an anti-doping test and he has done so in other states, as well.

    On Friday, Nov. 8, Matchroom announced at a news conference in Los Angeles that Jacobs-Chavez would not be in Las Vegas and instead would be in Phoenix. The federal Muhammad Ali Act does not permit fighters who are suspended in one state from competing in another.

    Nevada commission executive director Bob Bennett considers Chavez’s refusal to submit to the test as an anti-doping violation and he was suspended on Oct. 30, with a hearing scheduled for Nov. 18. But because Matchroom opted to proceed with the bout in Arizona, Nevada is threatening its promoter’s license.

    In a letter to Hearn that was obtained exclusively by Yahoo Sports, Bennett wrote:

    “Based on Matchroom’s ongoing dealings with Chavez while he has been on suspension, it is apparent that Matchroom has violated Nevada law. Further, given that Chavez’s suspension is based on his refusal to submit to a drug test requested by the NSAC, and thus an anti-doping violation, it is apparent that the event scheduled to occur in Arizona on December 20, 2019, is in violation of the Ali Act. As such, Matchroom is promoting an event that potentially violates federal law.

    “On November 7, 2019, I contacted Shaun Palmer, Matchroom’s Head of Legal and Business Affairs, and informed him of the legal issues with Matchroom’s dealings with Chavez discussed herein. I further informed him of the potential consequences should Matchroom not take corrective measures to comply with Nevada law, including that a violation of Nevada law would be considered by the NSAC when deciding whether to renew Matchroom’s promoter’s license. As of the date of this letter, the matters at issue have not been resolved.

    “Given the above, grounds exist to bring disciplinary action against Matchroom before the NSAC. If Matchroom does not take the necessary action to come into compliance with Nevada law, our office will consider its options.”

    Hearn confirmed to Yahoo Sports that he had received the letter, but declined to comment.

    “We are in the process of reviewing it,” Hearn said.

    Chavez has had a checkered anti-doping history, and tested positive twice, once for a diuretic and again for marijuana. Because he’s considered unreliable by so many within the boxing industry, Matchroom has taken the unusual step of hiring Gabriel Rosado as a backup. Rosado is training as if he’ll fight Jacobs and will be used if Chavez can’t fight for any reason.



    Keith Connolly, Jacobs’ manager, said in a statement provided to Yahoo Sports that he’s just concerned that Jacobs gets to fight as scheduled on Dec. 20.

    “Danny is contracted to fight December 20 on DAZN either way, so he will be focused no matter who the opponent is,” Connolly said in his statement. “He is excited to make his debut at 168 and put the entire super middleweight division on notice. We will leave all legal matters and logistics up to our promoter and Danny will remain focused on fighting.”

    Yahoo Sports was unable to reach Chavez for comment.

    Promoter’s licenses are highly valuable, particularly in Nevada where so many big-money matches take place, and promoters are loathe to give them up once they receive them. Hearn would not be barred from promoting anywhere else, however, simply because Nevada may choose not to license him. Other jurisdictions would be able to consider that information either when licensing him or when looking at license renewal applications.

    https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/nev...214322713.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    DAZN made the fight? Hilarious.

    Come on Ron, you can fool these boys but not me, who made the fight? Who is the promoter? Who is the "adviser" to the fighters?

    (Makes you sick to see your mythical hero doing consistent great business with Eddie, doesn't it? Why do you think that is, Ron?)
    Yes, we all know who you blame. Some things never change. Not the criminal in violation of the Ali Act right?

    https://www.boxingscene.com/nsac-con...vez-jr--144240

    Strange that Thomas Hauser doesn’t blame the evil black man. Why on earth is Thomas Hauser forming the logical opinion that disagrees what the narrative you alone are trying to push? That everyone with a brain sees through. Yes Fenny, everyone sees through you.

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    Nevada commission threatens Matchroom's promoter's license over Chavez Jr.'s skipped drug test

    The executive director of the Nevada Athletic Commission threatened disciplinary action against a leading boxing promoter if his company goes forward with a bout on Dec. 20 in Phoenix involving Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., after Chavez refused to submit to a request for an anti-doping test from the commission on Oct. 24.

    Matchroom Sport, headed by Eddie Hearn, was planning to put a super middleweight bout between Chavez Jr., the son of the Hall of Famer Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., on Dec. 20 in Las Vegas against Daniel Jacobs in a bout that would be streamed on DAZN.

    An anti-doping collection agent showed up unannounced on Oct. 24 at the Wild Card Gym in Hollywood, California, where Chavez was training under Freddie Roach. Chavez refused to submit to the test and left the gym without providing a sample.

    Multiple sources told Yahoo Sports that this is not the first time Chavez has refused to submit to an anti-doping test and he has done so in other states, as well.

    On Friday, Nov. 8, Matchroom announced at a news conference in Los Angeles that Jacobs-Chavez would not be in Las Vegas and instead would be in Phoenix. The federal Muhammad Ali Act does not permit fighters who are suspended in one state from competing in another.

    Nevada commission executive director Bob Bennett considers Chavez’s refusal to submit to the test as an anti-doping violation and he was suspended on Oct. 30, with a hearing scheduled for Nov. 18. But because Matchroom opted to proceed with the bout in Arizona, Nevada is threatening its promoter’s license.

    In a letter to Hearn that was obtained exclusively by Yahoo Sports, Bennett wrote:

    “Based on Matchroom’s ongoing dealings with Chavez while he has been on suspension, it is apparent that Matchroom has violated Nevada law. Further, given that Chavez’s suspension is based on his refusal to submit to a drug test requested by the NSAC, and thus an anti-doping violation, it is apparent that the event scheduled to occur in Arizona on December 20, 2019, is in violation of the Ali Act. As such, Matchroom is promoting an event that potentially violates federal law.

    “On November 7, 2019, I contacted Shaun Palmer, Matchroom’s Head of Legal and Business Affairs, and informed him of the legal issues with Matchroom’s dealings with Chavez discussed herein. I further informed him of the potential consequences should Matchroom not take corrective measures to comply with Nevada law, including that a violation of Nevada law would be considered by the NSAC when deciding whether to renew Matchroom’s promoter’s license. As of the date of this letter, the matters at issue have not been resolved.

    “Given the above, grounds exist to bring disciplinary action against Matchroom before the NSAC. If Matchroom does not take the necessary action to come into compliance with Nevada law, our office will consider its options.”

    Hearn confirmed to Yahoo Sports that he had received the letter, but declined to comment.

    “We are in the process of reviewing it,” Hearn said.

    Chavez has had a checkered anti-doping history, and tested positive twice, once for a diuretic and again for marijuana. Because he’s considered unreliable by so many within the boxing industry, Matchroom has taken the unusual step of hiring Gabriel Rosado as a backup. Rosado is training as if he’ll fight Jacobs and will be used if Chavez can’t fight for any reason.



    Keith Connolly, Jacobs’ manager, said in a statement provided to Yahoo Sports that he’s just concerned that Jacobs gets to fight as scheduled on Dec. 20.

    “Danny is contracted to fight December 20 on DAZN either way, so he will be focused no matter who the opponent is,” Connolly said in his statement. “He is excited to make his debut at 168 and put the entire super middleweight division on notice. We will leave all legal matters and logistics up to our promoter and Danny will remain focused on fighting.”

    Yahoo Sports was unable to reach Chavez for comment.

    Promoter’s licenses are highly valuable, particularly in Nevada where so many big-money matches take place, and promoters are loathe to give them up once they receive them. Hearn would not be barred from promoting anywhere else, however, simply because Nevada may choose not to license him. Other jurisdictions would be able to consider that information either when licensing him or when looking at license renewal applications.

    https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/nev...214322713.html
    I’m confused, Fenny tells me it’s the evil black man at fault. Is it possible that Fenny’s agenda is BS? I’m shocked, I never would have imagined that Fenny’s consistent agenda is BS. Oh wait, it’s been obvious for years, I knew that, everyone knew that

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