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View Poll Results: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

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  • Deontay Wilder points

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  • Deontay Wilder stoppage

    10 47.62%
  • Tyson Fury points

    8 38.10%
  • Tyson Fury stoppage

    2 9.52%
  • Draw

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Tyson Fury set to light up Vegas but must keep promise against Deontay Wilder to join the greats

    Hallelujah, the big men are back on the streets of Las Vegas with their promises, their agendas and their special ability to make the fight city special for a week.

    The gun shows and the sex shows generate more cash for this place, but it takes a title fight, an old-fashioned scrap with bad blood on tap and a suitably unwritten ending, to give the city the feeling that helped make it the grandest of destinations.

    Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder will run this city for a few days before Saturday’s overdue and welcome rematch at the MGM. Their fight posters fill vast walls and there is a ceremonial ring in the casino lobby – at midnight on Sunday people were queuing for selfies by the ring. In a place of great sparkle it is good to note that the WBC belt, the title for the night, and any other glittering baubles strapped to the fight have been relegated to the back of the sporting jewellery shop. Please spare us all that desperate scrambling by men in suits, nudging, pushing and fake-smiling as they try to attach their belt first to the winner at the end. It has become an ugly ritual and needs to stop.

    Heavyweights, their dubious flocks and everybody desperate to be in the heavyweight business have been descending on Las Vegas for over fifty years, travelling through the lonely maze of a city that makes and breaks people every hour on the clock. Heavyweights have gone through the boxing grinder here for too long, men shaped by their dreams, crushed by losses and left not understanding either.

    The first heavyweight championship fight to ever take place in Las Vegas was in the summer of 1963, a time when men in large hats carried weapons at ringside and watched a 130-second massacre of Floyd Patterson by Sonny Liston. At the Convention Centre that night a young Cassius Clay ran to every microphone to sell his image to the factory of fun players.

    It is the city Mike Tyson owned, that Ali put on the boxing map, that Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe and Evander Holyfield traded punches in the sport’s last heavyweight golden period. A time, by the way, we foolishly took for granted from our privileged seats, but is now studied for its many noble nights. And a few ignoble ones – a lump of Holyfield’s bloody ear on the canvas will never fade.

    It is also the city where champions Liston and Joe Louis came to die, leaving behind regret, mystery and a statue. There is an endless list of great heavyweights that packed rings here for titles, for money and for the hell of it on occasion: George Foreman, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes, Leon Spinks, Gerry Cooney, Joe Bugner, Ron Lyle, Jerry Quarry and Earnie Shavers all fighting like their life depended on it during days and nights now neglected or forgotten. Many remained or returned for the fights, long into life and retirement they still came back to haunt the casino floors on big weeks.



    Nobody can forget the vanishing act of Buster Douglas one night in 2000, over 20 million dollars richer, but bundled out in shame from his digs at the Mirage after his loss to Holyfield – it takes a lot to be kicked out of this place.

    There was also the violent siege in a hotel suite involving unbeaten Ike Ibeabuchi, the best heavyweight you have never heard of and the man expected to be king. Big Ike, known as The President, took a stripper hostage, threatened lunacy and was then gassed and cuffed and imprisoned to end his boxing life. The fall of Oliver McCall one day at the Hilton is still fresh; watching his manic dialogue as he withdrew publicly from drug addiction during a breakdown – he was fighting for the heavyweight title live on American television at the time. It was also the city of two savage failures for Frank Bruno against Tyson. Even Anthony Joshua fought here when he was a skinny amateur. Heavyweights simply have to fight and win here.

    Fury is a great fit for the city with his garish suits, crooning skills and ability to shake the hands of kings and paupers – shallow icons and the wretched – each time he walks the halls of the casino canyons. Ali and Elvis, two Las Vegas goldmines, had that same human touch in this city with few barriers. I have heard respected veterans out here mention Fury in the same sentence as both – he’s a better singer than one and a better fighter than the other, that is for sure.

    It is a city where history is made in boxing rings by the heavyweights that arrive with their accolades, their missions and an ageless fighting desire to leave behind forever a special piece of wonder. Fury and Wilder are just the latest on the sport’s greatest stage, two very big men making promises.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    The Ring expert picks below , 12-8 in favour of Wilder

    I'm favouring Wilder more and more as fight night approaches. Just can't see him not landing that nuke and ending it

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Fury believes Wilder sacked promoter Lou DiBella because of his reaction to their draw

    Tyson Fury has claimed the he knows the real reason Deontay Wilder parted ways with promoter Lou DiBella in early 2019.

    Last month, DiBella came out and declared that he’d been exiled from Wilder’s team after setting up a meeting with rival US broadcaster DAZN about a potential network switch for showdown with Anthony Joshua.

    However, Fury disagrees with this line of thinking and instead believes DiBella was sacked after being seen on camera telling him he won at the end of the controversial draw.

    Fury told BT Sport: “Me and my team were celebrating. I was running round with my hands up.

    “Wilder’s head was in his corner like he was getting consoled. His trainer was patting him on the back.

    “Even his promoter came over to me and you can hear it on one of the interviews and said, “You won that fight,” before the decision.

    “I think that’s why he’s probably had the sack.”



    DiBella previously told iFL TV: “My relationship professionally as a promoter for Deontay Wilder and working with his team ended when I set up the DAZN meeting, which is perverse.

    “What did I do? I tried to talk to everyone in the marketplace and make a best effort to make the most money for a guy that I cared about.

    “Isn’t that what I’m supposed to do?”

    DAZN offered Wilder a three-fight deal worth a reported $100million which would have consisted of a mandatory defence against Dominic Breazeale, followed by two Joshua fights.

    Despite initially indicating he was excited by the idea, Wilder ultimately changed his mind, rejected the offer and stayed loyal to Showtime and FOX.

    When the Breazeale fight did happen – on Showtime – DiBella was no longer involved.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    I'm picking Fury by UD or late round KO. Wilder is very easy to hit.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    An in-shape Fury schools Wilder in the early to mid rounds with focus and discipline, but then a Wilder right connects and a stunned Fury backs off. Wilder then presses the action and KOs the giant in the next round—maybe the 9th or 10th-- with a windmill shot (left or right) or a paralyzing straight ala Breazeale.. We know Fury can go down. We know he can get up. But so does Wilder and Mark Breland.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    As we get nearer to fight night I'm leaning more and more towards Wilder.

    Partly fear because I'm a big Fury fan and nervous but mostly that I just cannot see him NOT detonating that bomb on Tyson's chin at least once in the fight.

    And this time I think once will be enough.

    I hope I'm wrong.

    Joshua is a poor third behind these two for me.
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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Kenny Bayless is a referee who has a history of siding with and helping American boxers.

    Glenn Feldman, Dave Moretti and Steve Weisfeld have all produced dodgy scorecards in the past, favoring home country the American boxer over the foreign fighter. So even if Fury survives the 12 rounds, which I think is unlikely, he'll probably lose on the scorecards regardless of how well he fights.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    no reiss to help out this time, better not get dropped
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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Wilder has a good ko percentage but it's padded with bin men and roads sweepers to be fair! Fury has shown the formula to beat him he was robbed if Fury can hurt Wilder he can stop him any guy over 15 stone can punch these are big guys anything can and will happen from being a dramatic to a boring fight sometimes rematches can be a disappointment .🤔

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Watching the press conference. Fury seems to be under cover and in hiding in his and shades.

    Wilder is dumb and seems nervous to me.
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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Lots of talk about adjustments from the experts. Stock line for a rematch I guess, air time or column inches won't fill themselves. Not going to happen is it, neither will do anything differently, they cant. Fury has talked the talk about going for the knockout, he wont, it's not who he is or what he does. He's made routine fights look competitive in the past due to his insistence on doing things a certain way. He's not going to change in the face of a bloke with a cannon in his hand. Wilder is Wilder, wont change, doesn't need to, doesn't know how to. I'm sure he's been working on his technical limitations over the years but it's been pretty much a waste of time hasn't it? Wilder is simple, turn up in shape, look for that right hand earlier in the fight and don't let Fury off the hook.

    Fury washed into the first fight on a wave of all sorts of emotions that empowered him. The weight loss, the mental health issues, the young untested trainer, the diving in at the deep end after two low key return fights. He turned all those things on their head and put in a great performance and won the first fight, no doubting that. Lot's of parallels here. Two less than great fights against less than great opposition. For different reasons his mental state is being questioned what with the WWE stuff and essentially having one eye on life after boxing. Again a new training setup. The first fight he was on a hiding to nothing. This time around he expects and those who back him expect. If he could do that first time around a 'fully fit' Tyson will win the rematch easy.

    After all that waffle you still come down to Fury points or Wilder KO right? I have a feeling Wilder will get the job done this time.
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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Kenny Bayless is a referee who has a history of siding with and helping American boxers.

    Glenn Feldman, Dave Moretti and Steve Weisfeld have all produced dodgy scorecards in the past, favoring home country the American boxer over the foreign fighter. So even if Fury survives the 12 rounds, which I think is unlikely, he'll probably lose on the scorecards regardless of how well he fights.

    Yeah as a Fury fan I'm abit concerned that in a fight between an American and and Englishman in America they have 3 American judges and an American referee. No wonder Tyson says he needs a KO. However the same thing happend with Lewis and holyfield after the draw in their first fight and Lewis got a decision more comfortably than perhaps his performance deserved

    In a true 50-50 fight the poll has it 10-10 and 1 draw.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Hagler v Leonard power punches v volume it's objective boxing in what you like.!
    Fury and Wilder in the first fight Fury hit him 3 or 4 to to 1 Wilder needed a ko really not a knock down. I think most people enjoyed the first fight very rarely rematches live up to expectations.

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    Default Re: Who wins? Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury II 2020年2月22日

    Fury is going to be fitter and he says he will let more power punches go.
    Wilder is more than capable of throwing more jabs and being busier with the ATOMIC BOMBS.
    This really is a very interesting fight and very hard to pick due to the fact both fighters should have learned from fighting each other.
    Wouldn't be surprised if the fight goes to either man, but if I have to pick a winner I will say Wilder inside 11.
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