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    Default Re: Is it Frotch or Frock?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    And he has a point regarding that list, he beat/fought much stronger competition than most of that list.
    Absolutely.

    Froch could never be accused of ducking anyone, because he was/is, genuinely convinced that he could beat everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    And he has a point regarding that list, he beat/fought much stronger competition than most of that list.
    Absolutely.

    Froch could never be accused of ducking anyone, because he was/is, genuinely convinced that he could beat everyone.
    Sorry, I’ve got to take issue with that. He refused to entertain the idea of fighting DeGale , (mandatory at the time) Ward, Golovkin , and insisted that he would only fight Chavez in Vegas . When that didn’t materialise, he duly retired.
    And to cap it all, 3 days AFTER retiring , he goes on Twitter with a picture of his exposed torso and says “too big and tough for GGG!”
    FACT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    And he has a point regarding that list, he beat/fought much stronger competition than most of that list.
    Absolutely.

    Froch could never be accused of ducking anyone, because he was/is, genuinely convinced that he could beat everyone.
    Sorry, I’ve got to take issue with that. He refused to entertain the idea of fighting DeGale , (mandatory at the time) Ward, Golovkin , and insisted that he would only fight Chavez in Vegas . When that didn’t materialise, he duly retired.
    And to cap it all, 3 days AFTER retiring , he goes on Twitter with a picture of his exposed torso and says “too big and tough for GGG!”
    FACT
    That was at the end of his career and he was trying to make some big money before retiring. Joe Calzaghe did the same type of thing and should not be penalised for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    And he has a point regarding that list, he beat/fought much stronger competition than most of that list.
    Absolutely.

    Froch could never be accused of ducking anyone, because he was/is, genuinely convinced that he could beat everyone.
    Sorry, I’ve got to take issue with that. He refused to entertain the idea of fighting DeGale , (mandatory at the time) Ward, Golovkin , and insisted that he would only fight Chavez in Vegas . When that didn’t materialise, he duly retired.
    And to cap it all, 3 days AFTER retiring , he goes on Twitter with a picture of his exposed torso and says “too big and tough for GGG!”
    FACT
    That was at the end of his career and he was trying to make some big money before retiring. Joe Calzaghe did the same type of thing and should not be penalised for that.
    Nah, bollocks mate. If you’re coming to the end of your career and want to make some big dosh, great! But you cannot wear that “never ducked anyone” badge.
    And besides, after Groves 2, the money he would’ve made fighting DeGale , GGG or Ward, would not be any less than he woulda got for fighting Chavez.
    It’s just that Chavez was the easier fight. So DO NOT give me any of that “fight anyone” bollocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    And he has a point regarding that list, he beat/fought much stronger competition than most of that list.
    Absolutely.

    Froch could never be accused of ducking anyone, because he was/is, genuinely convinced that he could beat everyone.
    Sorry, I’ve got to take issue with that. He refused to entertain the idea of fighting DeGale , (mandatory at the time) Ward, Golovkin , and insisted that he would only fight Chavez in Vegas . When that didn’t materialise, he duly retired.
    And to cap it all, 3 days AFTER retiring , he goes on Twitter with a picture of his exposed torso and says “too big and tough for GGG!”
    FACT
    That was at the end of his career and he was trying to make some big money before retiring. Joe Calzaghe did the same type of thing and should not be penalised for that.
    Nah, bollocks mate. If you’re coming to the end of your career and want to make some big dosh, great! But you cannot wear that “never ducked anyone” badge.
    And besides, after Groves 2, the money he would’ve made fighting DeGale , GGG or Ward, would not be any less than he woulda got for fighting Chavez.
    It’s just that Chavez was the easier fight. So DO NOT give me any of that “fight anyone” bollocks.
    The fact that he did not fight anyone after Groves demonstrates that he did not duck anyone as he did not fight again. If he did take on Chavez then you could say he ducked De Gale, Ward, GGG et al but he did not.
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    Default Re: Is it Frotch or Frock?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    And he has a point regarding that list, he beat/fought much stronger competition than most of that list.
    Absolutely.

    Froch could never be accused of ducking anyone, because he was/is, genuinely convinced that he could beat everyone.
    Sorry, I’ve got to take issue with that. He refused to entertain the idea of fighting DeGale , (mandatory at the time) Ward, Golovkin , and insisted that he would only fight Chavez in Vegas . When that didn’t materialise, he duly retired.
    And to cap it all, 3 days AFTER retiring , he goes on Twitter with a picture of his exposed torso and says “too big and tough for GGG!”
    FACT
    That was at the end of his career and he was trying to make some big money before retiring. Joe Calzaghe did the same type of thing and should not be penalised for that.
    Nah, bollocks mate. If you’re coming to the end of your career and want to make some big dosh, great! But you cannot wear that “never ducked anyone” badge.
    And besides, after Groves 2, the money he would’ve made fighting DeGale , GGG or Ward, would not be any less than he woulda got for fighting Chavez.
    It’s just that Chavez was the easier fight. So DO NOT give me any of that “fight anyone” bollocks.
    The fact that he did not fight anyone after Groves demonstrates that he did not duck anyone as he did not fight again. If he did take on Chavez then you could say he ducked De Gale, Ward, GGG et al but he did not.
    He didn’t fight because they couldn’t make the Chavez fight. They could’ve made the other fights but they never BECAUSE HE DIDN’T WANT THEM! How the fuck is that not a duck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    And he has a point regarding that list, he beat/fought much stronger competition than most of that list.
    Absolutely.

    Froch could never be accused of ducking anyone, because he was/is, genuinely convinced that he could beat everyone.
    Sorry, I’ve got to take issue with that. He refused to entertain the idea of fighting DeGale , (mandatory at the time) Ward, Golovkin , and insisted that he would only fight Chavez in Vegas . When that didn’t materialise, he duly retired.
    And to cap it all, 3 days AFTER retiring , he goes on Twitter with a picture of his exposed torso and says “too big and tough for GGG!”
    FACT
    That was at the end of his career and he was trying to make some big money before retiring. Joe Calzaghe did the same type of thing and should not be penalised for that.
    Nah, bollocks mate. If you’re coming to the end of your career and want to make some big dosh, great! But you cannot wear that “never ducked anyone” badge.
    And besides, after Groves 2, the money he would’ve made fighting DeGale , GGG or Ward, would not be any less than he woulda got for fighting Chavez.
    It’s just that Chavez was the easier fight. So DO NOT give me any of that “fight anyone” bollocks.
    The fact that he did not fight anyone after Groves demonstrates that he did not duck anyone as he did not fight again. If he did take on Chavez then you could say he ducked De Gale, Ward, GGG et al but he did not.
    He didn’t fight because they couldn’t make the Chavez fight. They could’ve made the other fights but they never BECAUSE HE DIDN’T WANT THEM! How the fuck is that not a duck?
    If they could have made fights against Ward (over here), or GGG then they would have. You assume it was Froch fault and therefore he ducked them but you know it takes 2 to tango. Froch retired so give the man a break it was at the end of his career and he has shown he would have taken on anyone and everyone if he still wanted to carry on boxing but he did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Donny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    And he has a point regarding that list, he beat/fought much stronger competition than most of that list.
    Absolutely.

    Froch could never be accused of ducking anyone, because he was/is, genuinely convinced that he could beat everyone.
    Sorry, I’ve got to take issue with that. He refused to entertain the idea of fighting DeGale , (mandatory at the time) Ward, Golovkin , and insisted that he would only fight Chavez in Vegas . When that didn’t materialise, he duly retired.
    And to cap it all, 3 days AFTER retiring , he goes on Twitter with a picture of his exposed torso and says “too big and tough for GGG!”
    FACT
    I have no problem with that, not many fighters in this business were fighting the best of the best till the retirement, like Bernard or Wlad, but Carl came close to that. I rather agree with Powerpuncher that he overachieved, I felt he was more than lucky to get the decision in the fight against Dirrell, he was outboxed in the most of the rounds by JT and he was on par with an old Glen Johnson. He was a tough motherfucker though, great chin, good stamina and I give him 10 out of ten for mental strength.
    He was was also smart enough to not take on GGG or DeGale.
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    Default Re: Is it Frotch or Frock?

    Putting all the history aside, what is the correct pronounciation of his name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    Putting all the history aside, what is the correct pronounciation of his name?
    I guess is Farl Croch.

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