Maurice Gordon, Schizophrenic, EXECUTED JUNE 8, 2020 by NJ State Trooper

[NoSavingByTheBell]

HOW MUCH MORE OF THIS SHIT DO WE NEED TO SEE

[TitoFan]

See..... this is where I diverge a little bit.

It's a tragedy just the same that another citizen got shot and killed by the police, but........... (and I hate to have to insert that "but" in there)

.... what was Gordon doing behind the wheel of a car anyway?

If he was truly schizophrenic, he was certainly endangering the lives of other people by driving 101 and 110 mph as stopped by police on two different occasions.

The first officer was truly decent and friendly.

The second one was doing his job....... but damned if Gordon didn't become increasingly more uncooperative.

"Walk this way sir." And damned if Gordon tried to walk the other way (to the middle of the freeway).

"Sit here sir." "Don't get out of the car, sir." "Get back in the car, sir."

Geeeez..... how many fucking warnings did the officer give Gordon to be cooperative?

Then scuffles ensue. Couldn't see clearly with the camera angle....... but Gordon basically decided to up and fight with the officer.




I'm sorry..... but death was pretty much a probability at that point.

It's the distinction we must be able to make between just plain police brutality and murder......... and instances where the suspect just doesn't know enough to follow orders and preserve his own life.

[Master]

Did the police have tasers? If they did they should have been used or CS gas spray first.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

The poor guy had a valid license, wasnt being detained or arrested, was asked if you would like to sit in the back of the cop car, was totally cooperating.....

after sitting a really long time and then being asked if he wanted to wear a mask, he panicked and bolted out of the car.

That fucking cop had no right to chase him, he was NOT arrested or detained, WHY WAS THE COP CHASING HIM?? IT MADE THE POOR GUY PANIC EVEN MORE

Of course there will be a struggle after that. The cop then told him SIT BACK IN THE CAR

HE SAT BACK IN THE CAR BUT WAS SO DISORIENTED HE SAT IN THE DRIVERS SEAT.

The cop then starts really roughing him up, and the struggle gets worse.

HE THEN SHOOTS THE MAN 7 TIMES TO DEATH

[TitoFan]

We as law-abiding citizens must pick our battles.

If we're going to blindly side with the victim every time there's an incident, that's where credibility erodes and polarization increases.

The taser point I'll agree to..... thank you @Master

Tasers exist for a reason, and cops seem to have forgotten their use. (Except when they get taken away from them... then it's ok to shoot the guy in the back ).

Cops are too quick to pull their gun and use deadly force. Gordon needed to be subdued... but the cop should've tased the fuck out of him.

But FFS......... when is a certain sector of the public going to realize that it's not a "free-for-all" out there??

If the cop says SIT..... you sit. If he says STAND.... you stand. If you struggle.... if you fight..... if you run..... I'm sorry, but you're sort of asking for trouble.

If Gordon was in fact a schizophrenic, what in the hell was he doing alone behind the wheel of a car doing over 100 mph to the point where he was detained several times??

This is a two-way street. The door swings both ways in interactions between cops and citizens.

[Master]

I am not excusing the man, but if someone is mentally vulnerable then they need help for their own good. If that means subduing him then they should do that but not with a gun.

Do they have CS gas in the USA? Police also have batons over here and they aim for the legs which is another way to subdue a perpetrator.