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    Wearing masks in shops will become compulsory in the U.K. Next week.

    As far as I understand, and I'm quite happy to be corrected with some real science, viruses (being living organisms) require water to survive.

    The most common way that airborne viruses spread is within water droplets or aerosols expelled by infected people or animals. Not all, of course, because a very small sized virus can also survive for a short while on its own and not floating in water - presumably it could penetrate a mask more easily too. That is a smaller risk as the virus dies much more quickly.

    A mask which prevents most of these water particles from being ingested will reduce the risk of being infected. REDUCE not PREVENT, as these particles will eventually penetrate most masks, can reach the eyes anyway, or can actually survive on the mask itself for some time.

    So, I don't believe that wearing a mask will prevent infection, but it's likely to reduce the risk somewhat.

    Actually, its more about other people than what I think anyway. If other people would feel more relaxed if I was wearing a mask in a shop, then I will wear one. That's just politeness and a bit of concern for others, isn't it?
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    Orlando Health confirms state COVID-19 report has errors
    https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/or...ort-has-errors
    The Florida Department of Health released its daily coronavirus testing report showing a statewide positivity rate of 11 percent, but FOX 35 News quickly noticed some shocking positivity rates.

    Countless labs report 100 percent positivity, which means every single person tested was positive.




    OH NO Brockton....OH NO!!!!!!! Whoever could have foreseen this?!?!?! WHO Keep wearing that mask bruh LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Wearing masks in shops will become compulsory in the U.K. Next week.

    As far as I understand, and I'm quite happy to be corrected with some real science, viruses (being living organisms) require water to survive.

    The most common way that airborne viruses spread is within water droplets or aerosols expelled by infected people or animals. Not all, of course, because a very small sized virus can also survive for a short while on its own and not floating in water - presumably it could penetrate a mask more easily too. That is a smaller risk as the virus dies much more quickly.

    A mask which prevents most of these water particles from being ingested will reduce the risk of being infected. REDUCE not PREVENT, as these particles will eventually penetrate most masks, can reach the eyes anyway, or can actually survive on the mask itself for some time.

    So, I don't believe that wearing a mask will prevent infection, but it's likely to reduce the risk somewhat.

    Actually, its more about other people than what I think anyway. If other people would feel more relaxed if I was wearing a mask in a shop, then I will wear one. That's just politeness and a bit of concern for others, isn't it?
    Yes, you wearing a mask is really for the protection of others and provides reassurance for them. If they did the same, and it will be mandatory in shops from next week, then everyone will feel safer.

    Glad the government have eventually agreed this as voluntary responsibility has not worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Wearing masks in shops will become compulsory in the U.K. Next week.

    As far as I understand, and I'm quite happy to be corrected with some real science, viruses (being living organisms) require water to survive.

    The most common way that airborne viruses spread is within water droplets or aerosols expelled by infected people or animals. Not all, of course, because a very small sized virus can also survive for a short while on its own and not floating in water - presumably it could penetrate a mask more easily too. That is a smaller risk as the virus dies much more quickly.

    A mask which prevents most of these water particles from being ingested will reduce the risk of being infected. REDUCE not PREVENT, as these particles will eventually penetrate most masks, can reach the eyes anyway, or can actually survive on the mask itself for some time.

    So, I don't believe that wearing a mask will prevent infection, but it's likely to reduce the risk somewhat.

    Actually, its more about other people than what I think anyway. If other people would feel more relaxed if I was wearing a mask in a shop, then I will wear one. That's just politeness and a bit of concern for others, isn't it?
    Yes, you wearing a mask is really for the protection of others and provides reassurance for them. If they did the same, and it will be mandatory in shops from next week, then everyone will feel safer.

    Glad the government have eventually agreed this as voluntary responsibility has not worked.
    So it's about feelings and perception?
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Wearing masks in shops will become compulsory in the U.K. Next week.

    As far as I understand, and I'm quite happy to be corrected with some real science, viruses (being living organisms) require water to survive.

    The most common way that airborne viruses spread is within water droplets or aerosols expelled by infected people or animals. Not all, of course, because a very small sized virus can also survive for a short while on its own and not floating in water - presumably it could penetrate a mask more easily too. That is a smaller risk as the virus dies much more quickly.

    A mask which prevents most of these water particles from being ingested will reduce the risk of being infected. REDUCE not PREVENT, as these particles will eventually penetrate most masks, can reach the eyes anyway, or can actually survive on the mask itself for some time.

    So, I don't believe that wearing a mask will prevent infection, but it's likely to reduce the risk somewhat.

    Actually, its more about other people than what I think anyway. If other people would feel more relaxed if I was wearing a mask in a shop, then I will wear one. That's just politeness and a bit of concern for others, isn't it?
    Yes, you wearing a mask is really for the protection of others and provides reassurance for them. If they did the same, and it will be mandatory in shops from next week, then everyone will feel safer.

    Glad the government have eventually agreed this as voluntary responsibility has not worked.
    So it's about feelings and perception?
    No, it is about protection and safety first.
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    Well, to be honest, for me it is about perception.

    Whilst I think a mask will somewhat reduce risk of Covid transmission, I don't think it is as effective as sanitisation and genuine social distancing.

    So I do think quite a lot is about helping other people feel safe. Clearly, the government want shops to open to try and rescue our economy ... and if masks make people feel safer and somewhat reduce their risk doing their shopping then that's fine by me.

    So, I will wear a mask without complaint .... knowing it's not about me, it's about other people. I don't find it a huge deal to wear a mask really.
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    It's also highly recommended for bank robberies.

    You can pop into a corner shop on your way to or from a bank robbery and not even have to remember to take your mask off.

    Win/win all around
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    No, it is about protection and safety first.
    If that's the case then you're going to need/want more than a cloth mask or a surgical mask. You'll want/need at least an N95 and then you'll also need eye protection and you'll probably also want gloves. Just being real with you my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Wearing masks in shops will become compulsory in the U.K. Next week.

    As far as I understand, and I'm quite happy to be corrected with some real science, viruses (being living organisms) require water to survive.

    The most common way that airborne viruses spread is within water droplets or aerosols expelled by infected people or animals. Not all, of course, because a very small sized virus can also survive for a short while on its own and not floating in water - presumably it could penetrate a mask more easily too. That is a smaller risk as the virus dies much more quickly.

    A mask which prevents most of these water particles from being ingested will reduce the risk of being infected. REDUCE not PREVENT, as these particles will eventually penetrate most masks, can reach the eyes anyway, or can actually survive on the mask itself for some time.

    So, I don't believe that wearing a mask will prevent infection, but it's likely to reduce the risk somewhat.

    Actually, its more about other people than what I think anyway. If other people would feel more relaxed if I was wearing a mask in a shop, then I will wear one. That's just politeness and a bit of concern for others, isn't it?
    I agree masks REDUCE not PREVENT. But I am still miffed at how neither Republicans nor Democrats seem to gauge just where does testing fits in. We can wear masks until 2023, but it wont change the fact that there is a supposed virus that can hide itself on a healthy person? Healthy people are now transmitters? I wonder for how long. It was quite a while for the 1st case to result in a death- Jan 5th? and it took how long for someone weak enough to succumb, how many other healthy people contracted it. And took it with them- like a lady I saw one day on a bus, when I was a teenager; she opened her purse to pay I was behind her and out scurried a roach...looking for a ride to infect someone else domain, but I digress!

    The few times I have had the flu (3 or 4) I knew within a day or two. At best, I'd catch a cold. At worst, those few times I came down with it- i knew it within days. 3 days, worst flu for me lasted over a week.

    I do wonder if science has documented that a person can be asymptomatic with the flu?

    Has anyone ever been a carrier of the flu for 2 weeks-without knowing? Then those they came across for that duration -whose immune system couldn't fight it off, then became recipients of said flu?
    That is what stumps me on those who claimed it is just like the flu.
    Two different opinions coming from the White House. When I saw Dr. Fauci being asked a question and the POTUS interrupted him and said - He already answered the question. I turned the channel. IMO Ron Paul was right in 2016. Trump wants to be the boss, but true constitutionalist say the People are the boss.
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    Soooooooooo..... masks dont do shit. OK.. Got it.


    Still waiting for someone on THAT trainwreck of a perspective to tell us all, pray do tell, why THE COUNTRY that poo-poos masks more than ANY other comparably-populated country on Earth HAS MILLIONS AND MILLIONS MORE INFECTIONS AND DEATHS than anywhere else that DOES wear masks diligently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Wearing masks in shops will become compulsory in the U.K. Next week.

    As far as I understand, and I'm quite happy to be corrected with some real science, viruses (being living organisms) require water to survive.

    The most common way that airborne viruses spread is within water droplets or aerosols expelled by infected people or animals. Not all, of course, because a very small sized virus can also survive for a short while on its own and not floating in water - presumably it could penetrate a mask more easily too. That is a smaller risk as the virus dies much more quickly.

    A mask which prevents most of these water particles from being ingested will reduce the risk of being infected. REDUCE not PREVENT, as these particles will eventually penetrate most masks, can reach the eyes anyway, or can actually survive on the mask itself for some time.

    So, I don't believe that wearing a mask will prevent infection, but it's likely to reduce the risk somewhat.

    Actually, its more about other people than what I think anyway. If other people would feel more relaxed if I was wearing a mask in a shop, then I will wear one. That's just politeness and a bit of concern for others, isn't it?
    Yes, you wearing a mask is really for the protection of others and provides reassurance for them. If they did the same, and it will be mandatory in shops from next week, then everyone will feel safer.

    Glad the government have eventually agreed this as voluntary responsibility has not worked.
    So it's about feelings and perception?
    No, it is about protection and safety first.
    if it was about safety & protection then masks would be mandatory everywhere & there would be no exemptions. the uk would make mask wearing mandatory immediately, not in ten days time. only the retarded cannot see the bullshit in this & seem to ignore that masks don't cover eyes
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
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    No, it is about protection and safety first.
    If that's the case then you're going to need/want more than a cloth mask or a surgical mask. You'll want/need at least an N95 and then you'll also need eye protection and you'll probably also want gloves. Just being real with you my friend.
    & a n95 mask wouldn't stop someone already infected from breathing the virus out into the air
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Soooooooooo..... masks dont do shit. OK.. Got it.


    Still waiting for someone on THAT trainwreck of a perspective to tell us all, pray do tell, why THE COUNTRY that poo-poos masks more than ANY other comparably-populated country on Earth HAS MILLIONS AND MILLIONS MORE INFECTIONS AND DEATHS than anywhere else that DOES wear masks diligently.
    because it's all a fabricated plan. new york & hong kong are comparable, shall we compare them to see the bullshit?
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    there would be no division over mask wearing or social distancing if the official story was true. everybody would know there was a real threat & they would all do it voluntarily to protect themselves. this is an artificially created non-crisis. so there is push back
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    Well I think Fauci is pretty clear in what he's saying. The term "quarantine fatigue" is a good one and accurately describes what probably is driving a lot of people to go out and do things they weren't doing two months ago. If you combine that with the natural tendencies of some people to chafe under authority, or look at everything as "they're trying to deny me of my rights"...... then it's probably a perfect storm brewing and probably why other pandemics in the past have had second waves. Because people are people and every era has had those who buck authority or just get tired of being cooped up. We'll see how it all pans out, but it doesn't look good.
    Many different variables but off the top I think it really does reveal just how selfish we are. Basically it was what, 2 months of some uncomfortable and yes costly limitations for many depending on location. It became 100 percent politicized. We're an impatient tunnel vision society demanding instant gratification. I cringe when I hear the simplicity of wearing a mask inside of a store equated to 'violating my rights'. Our 'rights' are trampled every day on a far graver scale. We've become truly out of touch.
    do you believe masks work? it's the boiling frog analogy. a little bit at a time so you don't notice until it's to late
    Bringing back the classics eh. At the very least they help minimize the risk of something we as a Country have completely botched the response to and were a reality in my profession long before Covid became a political football. Next person going to the Dentist be sure to tell the staff to go bareback while they breathe down your gullet for hours of work. I don't really like wearing pants when I shop but dems da rules.
    your lateral movement is better than lomas. so minimize not prevent? a dentists mask wouldn't prevent them inhaling the virus yeh?
    Next time you have work done or a surgical procedure of any type preformed tell the half dozen strangers in the room no masks required because you're bullet proof and all.
    shall i go slower for ya? where is surgery performed? a surgical mask wouldn't prevent them inhaling the virus yeh?
    If ye go any slower you'd be going backwards Ta dum tish. Speaking in general everyday life. Forget Covid. I get that the tag duo of the anti masking Bushwackers is forming up here but I'm just saying next time you get something done simply ask that everyone go mask free. You don't believe it's real. I get it. It's ok.
    trying to keep it at a pace suitable for the slightly retarded. so forget covid now? do you wear a mask for the flu or for tuberculosis? of course you don't. i'm just asking if a surgical mask would prevent them inhaling the virus you believe in? you brought up the dentist yeh. you talk about the simplicity of wearing a mask inside of a store, then talk about a dentists surgical mask & operating room. hows that filtration on a surgical mask work again?
    Ah come on Tickles no need to start throwing someones disability in their face, my point is this if you could stop eating the crayons long enough....you believe masks to be ineffective and in general useless from reducing exposure to spread illness correct? An item of control correct?

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