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    Default If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    Title is self-explanatory.

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    Default Re: If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    I was borderline Top 10 or Top 15. But in the end, I'm hard pressed to find 10 other boxers I'd put ahead of him.

    Success at different weight classes. Nobody did it like Pac. Starting at fly and winning all the way up to welter. Hats off to him.

    Another thing is his durability. He's been around a good long time, and still more than just competitive.

    Finally, class of opposition. He's fought and beaten a Who's Who in boxing.

    No...... Top 10 for me.

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    Default Re: If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    when I think of Willie Pep or Henry Armstrong, even guys like Sandy Sadler, I'm talking about featherweight here but in Henry Armstrong's case lightweight as well.... Guys like Tony Canzoneri and Roberto Duran at lightweight.... And lets not forget Sweet pea Whitaker.... And sugar Ray Leonard.... Now moving to welterweight you got SRR, Floyd...


    I don't think Pacquiao beats any of those guys and I also don't think he could beat Aaron Pryor.

    But considering all the weight classes he moved up through, I would rate him in the top 15 but not in the top 10

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    Default Re: If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    I would rank him higher than Floyd Mayweather.
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    Default Re: If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I would rank him higher than Floyd Mayweather.
    Yep. Which says all we need to know about you.
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    Default Re: If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    I would rank him higher than Floyd Mayweather.
    Yep. Which says all we need to know about you.
    Nothing like letting people have their own opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I would rank him higher than Floyd Mayweather.
    Yep. Which says all we need to know about you.
    Nothing like letting people have their own opinions.
    Why? Did I stop him having his opinion did I ? So all of a sudden, you’ve become the self appointed caped crusader of free speech! Fucks sake, I’ve heard it all now. Smfh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I would rank him higher than Floyd Mayweather.
    Yep. Which says all we need to know about you.
    Nothing like letting people have their own opinions.
    Why? Did I stop him having his opinion did I ? So all of a sudden, you’ve become the self appointed caped crusader of free speech! Fucks sake, I’ve heard it all now. Smfh.
    You havent heard anything, actually. Or seen. Or thought. etc.

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    Default Re: If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I would rank him higher than Floyd Mayweather.
    Yep. Which says all we need to know about you.
    Nothing like letting people have their own opinions.
    Why? Did I stop him having his opinion did I ? So all of a sudden, you’ve become the self appointed caped crusader of free speech! Fucks sake, I’ve heard it all now. Smfh.
    You havent heard anything, actually. Or seen. Or thought. etc.
    I heard it when I read it back to myself in disbelief.
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    Default Re: If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I would rank him higher than Floyd Mayweather.
    Yep. Which says all we need to know about you.
    Nothing like letting people have their own opinions.
    Why? Did I stop him having his opinion did I ? So all of a sudden, you’ve become the self appointed caped crusader of free speech! Fucks sake, I’ve heard it all now. Smfh.
    You havent heard anything, actually. Or seen. Or thought. etc.
    I heard it when I read it back to myself in disbelief.
    You read to yourself? I mean, you read?

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    Default Re: If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I would rank him higher than Floyd Mayweather.
    Yep. Which says all we need to know about you.
    Nothing like letting people have their own opinions.
    Why? Did I stop him having his opinion did I ? So all of a sudden, you’ve become the self appointed caped crusader of free speech! Fucks sake, I’ve heard it all now. Smfh.
    You havent heard anything, actually. Or seen. Or thought. etc.
    I heard it when I read it back to myself in disbelief.
    You read to yourself? I mean, you read?
    Well I can read you like a book , my Little pedigree chum.
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    Default Re: If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I would rank him higher than Floyd Mayweather.
    Yep. Which says all we need to know about you.
    Nothing like letting people have their own opinions.
    Why? Did I stop him having his opinion did I ? So all of a sudden, you’ve become the self appointed caped crusader of free speech! Fucks sake, I’ve heard it all now. Smfh.
    You havent heard anything, actually. Or seen. Or thought. etc.
    I heard it when I read it back to myself in disbelief.
    You read to yourself? I mean, you read?
    Well I can read you like a book , my Little pedigree chum.
    Ha! Self-delusion is surely not a crime, so do keep going.

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    Default Re: If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    I voted below TOP 20.

    I think it is a matter of looking at a record he broke (winning in 8 divisions) as the reason he is rated so high. My 1st question would be; how did that become the standard record for achieving ATG status? Records are broken in every major sport, but that isn't the (or at least my) criteria for greatness.

    It is a disservice for me to rank him above fighters who never saw more than 8 weight classes. Previous to the 1970s, none had that option. None.


    How am I to rank any fighter who won (1) title in 8 weight classes -say over one who only won in (4) weight classes but unified in all (4) weight classes? Before Pac's era those guys not only had to fight against corrupt sanctioning, & the mob, but with less than what? 3 Boxing organizations or less.
    But Pac got to fight in an era of the WBC, WBA, IBF...& his era made WBO a worthy title, let alone to add on IBO, Ring, Linear, to the generic USBA, NABF. DIAMOND Belts.
    And of all those available titles he fought for multiple belts in 2001, 2004, 2005, 2009 & 2015 (3) titles.
    The only time he came close to cleaning out a division was his win over Cotto in 2009, where one of those titles was a Diamond belt. I still can't get over how he moved up to LW, took on David Diaz and not Juan Diaz the other champ. Or Casamayor who was the Lineal champ. ALL TIME GREATS don't leave stones unturned, belts unclaimed, reputations unchecked, myths unexposed.

    Boxing fans I loved watching Pac. I bought his PPV's more than Mayweather's, but aint no way I can rate ANY boxer as an all time great that didn't unify -at least the one division they fought in either their youth or prime.
    If I compile a Top 20 ATG's- their positions may change from time to time, but what is a constant is they all unified the belts in their best weight class, not set records.
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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    Default Re: If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    A side meth.





    Last edited by ruthless rocco; 09-15-2020 at 06:09 AM.

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    Default Re: If Pacquiao retired today, where would you rank him all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    A side meth.





    I'm just glad it's all over. IMO both sides disgraced themselves. Pac's team can be held accountable for walking away from Floyd's request of how he wanted it done, but at the same time Floyd watched Bradley do 36 rounds, JMM 40+ rounds. Even Vargas & Broner stepped in & didn't get hurt, yet Floyd chose to make it seem like the cards was so stacked against him.

    A shame Arum's team didn't comply & then counter offer: We will do ALL TEST & you will agree to fight outside Vegas where that hand injection shit ceased aka turn the tables. But both sides played the fans- knowing Floyd would fight his safety first style regardless.
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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