gotta say despite probably deserving 1 or 2 points deducted for fouls by the ref, Trump still won that debate, I scored it 117-112 (115-112 with 2 points deducted for interrupting like a 2 year old until you wanted to smack him)
I see Biden wanting it as a legacy. To say he was in the lineage of World leaders.
On the Obama-peace prize- The world, not Democrats alone saw him as saving the planet from the previous administration that put the earth's top nations & the Middle East in a war against an ideology, terrorism. They saw it as a change from a country that saturated world markets with CDOs, ruining stock markets, placing America at the brink of a great depression- they bought his slogan; Change you can believe in.
The audacity to Hope
"Obama's victory is ... evidence that Bush's policies have failed. Americans have no option but to change their policies to save themselves from the quagmire Bush has created for them."
Gholam Ali Haddad-Adel Iran.
Obama's "extraordinary journey to the White House will inspire people not only in your country but also around the world"."
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.
José Manuel Barroso, Nicolas Sarkozy, Gordon Brown to name a few offered either words of hope, praise and or unity to work with the incoming prez.. How fucked up of a bang-up job did Dubya II did that brought such hopes for the new president? I think I know! He F'd up so bad... that the incoming Democrat was offered a Novel Peace Prize for what he had yet to accomplish. That doesn't reflect IMO that he wasn't deserving (AS MUCH) as it reflects of what the committee that issues the prize thought about change of administration from Washington D.C.'s Oval Office. Thank the Lord!! Republicans are out!!
However I understand his dilemma: If he doesn't continue the war on terror, then he is labeled weak on terror. (just revisit conservative media 2007- up to the election.) Hell, revisit the threads here in 2007!!
But once he takes over leadership and shows how to rain down bombs, missiles drones & taking out the man responsible for 9/11, well now he is a murderer.
Again, the run up to 2008 he was called weak on terror, true? What does that mean then?
So doing the math:
If a Democrat gets elected, they will be weak on the war on terror. BUT! If they prove otherwise, then it means they are hawkish.
But when Republicans kill the enemy that means they are patriotic & keeping America safe. Just look at how proud they were to kill an Iranian in Iraq, that was justice at its finest.
This thread was my question for Obama.
Why would he want this position when he witnessed as a Senator the divisive nature of the American legislative branch that was so polarized, the new minority Republican House/Senate in 2006 - broke their own record for most filibusters in American history. These clowns were so divisive, so anti-bipartisan, that when Obama tried to approve of Republican backed bills....they did a 180 & voted against...their own legislation. G-Damn, thats pitiful!
So a Kenyan negro with a name that rhymes with Osama could solve such a debacle?
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...y-trump-214498
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen...structure-plan
Senate GOP Blocks Obama's $60 Billion Infrastructure Plan
They offered no alternative- look at that FOX link- see how they are smiling.
10 ideas Republicans loved until Barack Obama became President
https://www.eclectablog.com/2013/08/...president.html
“A lot of us woke up every morning thinking about how to kick Obama, who could say the harshest thing about Obama on the air,”
If Biden wins, he will NOT receive what Bush Jr. did for the incoming Democrat: A Pledge for a peaceful transition. But he will get everything else President Obama got: obstruction to death. Filibustered to death. Denied a record number of judicial picks. No up or down votes.
'"The campaign is over and we move forward as one nation."
"There are some things that will not change. The United States will remain vigilant in meeting its most important responsibility; protecting the American people. AND THE WORLD CAN BE CERTAIN THIS COMMITTMENT WILL REMAIN STEADFAST UNDER OUR NEXT COMMANDER IN CHIEF"
--President George Bush Jr, outgoing speech."
In other words, I saw President Obama in a no-win situation, just as with V.P Biden- if we wins.
Had Obama NOT dropped drones. Not oversaw the decision to take out Bin laden. What would republicans have said? Libya wasn't loved by conservatives. Yet as soon as Obama followed his masters (whoever runs USA), well he just gave reign to crooked Hillary who didn't support the war on terror because she loves her country. She did it because she is hawkish. I expect the same if Biden wins.
Biden wins? Every Donnie Darko supporter with their head up his arse that remained silent for (4) years on this hilarious out of control debt, will YELL: You're SPENDING us over a fiscal cliff on day one.
Sleepy Joe becomes Prez, on Day One- You better stop covid!! "cause it wasn't Don's responsibility. & we never said it was a hoax, that's fake news telling you that. Our people are dying of Covid. DO SOMETHING DAMN DEMOCRAT!
We know we said Russia was cool...under Donnie, but not U! So ya just gonna let Putin run all over America?
So what Jung Un popped test missiles off one after another. Jeez, get a grip. Didnt Donnie tell you! Kim Jung Won't 'Break His Promise'
https://time.com/5583275/trump-kim-j...-weapons-test/
And stop whining, yeah yeah, Fannie Mae & Freddie did a deal with Kushner for $500-$800 million dollars
https://www.newsmax.com/finance/stre.../23/id/904004/
So whatya gonna do 'bout your crony son & his 50k job..cronyism at its worst!
If he wins, I predict he will be the 1st prez to die on the job of a heart attack. Not because of his elderly condition, but that coupled with the hatefest his detractors will bring the ultimate hate-lefty scorched earth policy.
Last edited by SlimTrae; 10-01-2020 at 10:11 AM.
All's lost! Everything's going to shit!
And I concur with the general consensus. That was the most sickening debate I've ever witnessed. I refused to watch it all, just pathetic for the world to see these are our 2 best options.
Nothing short of humiliating.
All's lost! Everything's going to shit!
Why didn't Trump condemn the Proud Boys?
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
My answer is no reason to. None of his supporters find racism in whites. its black people. Disagree? Search on your site here sir an see what you get when the word racist pops up.
They are celebrating today over Donnie Darko's "Who are they" question. His voters don't give a damn they replied, Standing Down and Standing by Sir
And the mainstream media didnt deride the manchild sitting in office; THEY DERIDED BOTH. Called it the worst debate in the history of this nation.
A hot mess, inside a dumpster fire, inside a trainwreck.
states one of many liberal news cast
All's lost! Everything's going to shit!
Every major media outlet was disappointed.
But wanna know what FOX headlines are telling their viewers this morning?
https://www.foxnews.com/
Headline #1.
Biden used ‘illusion of reasonableness’ at debate: Tucker
Headline #2
Former first lady suggests Trump’s debate performance was deliberate
(yeah ask her, cause this implies she and she alone thinks that....
Headline #3
Accused Kenosha shooter plans to sue Biden, campaign for libel
headline #4
LIVE UPDATES: 2020 presidential election heats up after first debate
(again mainstream media called it a disgrace a dumpster fire, but if one prefers FOX, well it was a heated debate nothing more).
Their top video pick
Why won't Joe Biden answer court-packing questions?
That's why people who support him see things the way they do. They see what they want to see. And I would expect from some to point out the one 1/2 breed mulatto looking dude as a reason to say, they can't be racists. Like they mind him shooting at his own people, probably laughing at his ass behind his back with the marching order....now if he shoot one of ours...
Last edited by SlimTrae; 10-01-2020 at 11:31 AM.
All's lost! Everything's going to shit!
When I see the Pboys lone half-colored token in front, I think of the Sergeant from A Soldier's Story
There's a few in every generation that hate their own, tolerate those not theirs. Willing to kill their own. For a chance to live with those who don't want to live with them
All's lost! Everything's going to shit!
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