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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Have it right.

    He won a close UD against an aged opponent (albeit in shape) who has a lot of miles on the clock.

    Chisora can punch of course but he isn’t a huge hitter.

    Usyk doesn’t have anything for Wilder, Joshua, Fury or even White who is a better version of Chisora.

    I’m not impressed by his debut in HW.. he’d have had to boss this fight for me to be convinced he can do anything up at this weight.
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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
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    Well surely usyk has won that... But I don't know, chisora really had him in trouble early on, he was not enjoying it all, complaining to the ref and using a lot of energy to get away... He also likes to do bugger all for the first few rounds and chisora had him firing back early on. Usyk doesn't look to have the power to keep these big tough gits off him and he's 33 when will his legs start to go? He really needed them here. This was against a fellow who's is good but has lost 8 times previously and is 37 in two months...maybe usyk will find it easier v taller guys who won't be able to attack the body quite so easily and there will be good heavyweights who will match up style wise better but I think usyk isn't becoming a real champ at heavyweight, great career for him though.
    I think Chisora is the worst style match up for Usyk. A HW with a ton of heart that is very aggressive. Someone like Whyte would probably trouble Usyk a lot also. I actually think that he would have an easier time with AJ because he won’t come forward
    You are probably correct although surely the opposition will have watched this and seen a pretty good game plan of how to beat usyk.

    I hope usyk does go on to be the champ though.

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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Usyk would make wilder look very bad, I think we're getting carried away now

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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
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    Well surely usyk has won that... But I don't know, chisora really had him in trouble early on, he was not enjoying it all, complaining to the ref and using a lot of energy to get away... He also likes to do bugger all for the first few rounds and chisora had him firing back early on. Usyk doesn't look to have the power to keep these big tough gits off him and he's 33 when will his legs start to go? He really needed them here. This was against a fellow who's is good but has lost 8 times previously and is 37 in two months...maybe usyk will find it easier v taller guys who won't be able to attack the body quite so easily and there will be good heavyweights who will match up style wise better but I think usyk isn't becoming a real champ at heavyweight, great career for him though.
    I think Chisora is the worst style match up for Usyk. A HW with a ton of heart that is very aggressive. Someone like Whyte would probably trouble Usyk a lot also. I actually think that he would have an easier time with AJ because he won’t come forward
    Usyk may not have a huge punch but those jarring sharp combos can work well on that physical and mental tightness one fight removed from the roof collapsing. Chisora much more relaxed and 'excepting' the fact he was going to get touched up. Usyk better invest in some sit ups though he was definitely bothered.

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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    A good fight for Usyk to shake some rust.
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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Guys who fight like Chisora's tend to trouble Usyk.
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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Usyk would make wilder look very bad, I think we're getting carried away now
    Agreed. People forget that Wilder weighs as much as Usyk and Usyk is 100 times the boxer that Wilder is

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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    I think this was the best version of chisora. I think usyk can do ok versus Joshua and whyte . wilder puts him out at some point and fury outboxed him

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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Usyk is better and harder to hit than Andy Ruiz, so he could have some success against Joshua who has a weak chin.
    He outpoints Wilder all day.
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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    It was an alright fight I guess. Decent effort from Chisora but went entirely to script. He managed to bang to the body pretty well in spots but his lack of mobility and speed cost him as we all expected it to. I saw anchored cruise ships off the coast of Torquay last week moving faster. Usyk did what Usyk does and turned the heat up as the fight wore on. He won't have had to come through quite as physical a test as he did early doors before but he came through it and put together some beautiful work in the second half.

    The immediate reaction is well if Chisora can give him a run for his money, AJ Fury Wilder and Whyte will turn him over. Fury and AJ I'd go along with. Too big, too strong, far better mobility than Chisora, far faster, better punch variety. Wilder. Same old same old. Gets out boxed but might just land the atomic windmill.

    Whyte I'm not so sure about. He and Chisora over the course of two fights are separated by one massive hit. If they fought tomorrow they'd probably have the same fight all over again and punch one another to a standstill. The younger and fresher version of Chisora line is getting tired now. Yes he's younger but the miles are racking up. He hasn't had a relatively easy night since Lucas Browne. I see a Usyk Whyte fight going the same way as this one.
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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    I am a big fan of Usyk but it's a big but he is not big enough or punch hard enough for the likes of AJ or Fury.!
    A brilliant boxer indeed but against the bigger monster HWs he will struggle Chisora is not the same level as AJ and Fury.
    Usyk maybe needs to think about fighting back at Cruiser or the new Super Cruiser division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    I am a big fan of Usyk but it's a big but he is not big enough or punch hard enough for the likes of AJ or Fury.!
    A brilliant boxer indeed but against the bigger monster HWs he will struggle Chisora is not the same level as AJ and Fury.
    Usyk maybe needs to think about fighting back at Cruiser or the new Super Cruiser division.
    There is far more money to be earned at this heavyweight division than anywhere else. No way will Usyk go down in weight now. He really needs more fights and test to get used to the bigger fighters. I bet he is hoping AJ bins the WBO title to allow him to do that.
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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

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    Usyk would make wilder look very bad, I think we're getting carried away now
    Agreed. People forget that Wilder weighs as much as Usyk and Usyk is 100 times the boxer that Wilder is
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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Usyk is such a good boxer. Technically excellent, intelligent fighter, really good stamina and engine but what sets him apart is his footwork.

    The Chisora fight was the absolute perfect heavyweight warm up/taster fight for him.

    Trouble is, I am not convinced he hits hard enough to frighten or get the respect of the big boys, who will feel they can pile in there without much fear of a big repercussion.
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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs Derek Chisora - 31/10/20 - Sky Sports PPV

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    Have it right.

    He won a close UD against an aged opponent (albeit in shape) who has a lot of miles on the clock.

    Chisora can punch of course but he isn’t a huge hitter.

    Usyk doesn’t have anything for Wilder, Joshua, Fury or even White who is a better version of Chisora.

    I’m not impressed by his debut in HW.. he’d have had to boss this fight for me to be convinced he can do anything up at this weight.
    Yea. He is just not powerful enough for the big boys. Chinning Bellew is one thing, but chinning even David Price is a whole other thing... lolol...
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