Who’s had the vaccine ? Side effects ?

[Master]

The Oxford-AstraZeneca is taken twice, at least 12 weeks apart to improve its efficacy.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Drug dealers go to jail for their crimes. Pharma goes to the bank for theirs. Sadly I don’t trust either our government agencies or the drug companies to be honest with us at this point, and there is no telling what this experimental gene therapy will actually do in the future years. How can you trust a drug when the people testing the drug are the SAME people making the drug and profiting from it? There's a HUGE conflict of interest. They're not vaccines people, they're genetic modification of the workings of the immune system. Personally know 3 people who had strokes 30 days after getting the vaxxx. Perfectly healthy before that. No thanks. Not for me. The positives they argue are extremely vague while the adverse effects are visible and clear. It's like Clint Eastwood and now the government is saying "Do You Feel Lucky Punk?".... experimental gene therapy is what it is. It does NOT introduce any pathogen to your body, like ALL vaccines have done.

[Beanz]

Drug dealers go to jail for their crimes. Pharma goes to the bank for theirs. Sadly I don’t trust either our government agencies or the drug companies to be honest with us at this point, and there is no telling what this experimental gene therapy will actually do in the future years. How can you trust a drug when the people testing the drug are the SAME people making the drug and profiting from it? There's a HUGE conflict of interest. They're not vaccines people, they're genetic modification of the workings of the immune system. Personally know 3 people who had strokes 30 days after getting the vaxxx. Perfectly healthy before that. No thanks. Not for me. The positives they argue are extremely vague while the adverse effects are visible and clear. It's like Clint Eastwood and now the government is saying "Do You Feel Lucky Punk?".... experimental gene therapy is what it is. It does NOT introduce any pathogen to your body, like ALL vaccines have done.

You personally know 3 people who had strokes 30 days after getting the vaccine? What all at 30 Days? That is a bit long after a shot to be counted as a side effect. Serious side effects like blood clots are really, really rare.

In the UK there are about 38 people who develop clots in every 25 Million vaccinated.

If you are worried about blood clots you are more than 8 times more likely to suffer from them if you get Covid 19 than if you don't get it.

There is literally nothing vague about the positives. This is widely documented and evidenced by massive falls in infection, transmission and serious illness in those who have been vaccinated. You are just making stuff up again when you claim it is some kind of random roulette.
And actually yes it is a vaccine not experimental gene therapy. You are telling lies again when you claim that it does not introduce any pathogen into your body. That is exactly what it does like all vaccines. It uses a fragment instead of a whole or live virus but that protein fragment still trains the body in the same way as a traditional vaccine to fight the virus but in a far safer and more efficient way.

You voted for Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, you are hardly someone who doesn't trust the man . The very opposite.

To die on a hill in some sad anti PC anti vaxx virtue signalling protest would be a terrible waste. Stop living your life in trembling fear and get your shot.

[Primo Carnera]

Drug dealers go to jail for their crimes. Pharma goes to the bank for theirs. Sadly I don’t trust either our government agencies or the drug companies to be honest with us at this point, and there is no telling what this experimental gene therapy will actually do in the future years. How can you trust a drug when the people testing the drug are the SAME people making the drug and profiting from it? There's a HUGE conflict of interest. They're not vaccines people, they're genetic modification of the workings of the immune system. Personally know 3 people who had strokes 30 days after getting the vaxxx. Perfectly healthy before that. No thanks. Not for me. The positives they argue are extremely vague while the adverse effects are visible and clear. It's like Clint Eastwood and now the government is saying "Do You Feel Lucky Punk?".... experimental gene therapy is what it is. It does NOT introduce any pathogen to your body, like ALL vaccines have done.

Mate , if you don’t want the Vaccine, fine. It’s a free World. But if you get Covid, please don’t come on here giving us all a RBR . I think I’d lose the will to live.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Drug dealers go to jail for their crimes. Pharma goes to the bank for theirs. Sadly I don’t trust either our government agencies or the drug companies to be honest with us at this point, and there is no telling what this experimental gene therapy will actually do in the future years. How can you trust a drug when the people testing the drug are the SAME people making the drug and profiting from it? There's a HUGE conflict of interest. They're not vaccines people, they're genetic modification of the workings of the immune system. Personally know 3 people who had strokes 30 days after getting the vaxxx. Perfectly healthy before that. No thanks. Not for me. The positives they argue are extremely vague while the adverse effects are visible and clear. It's like Clint Eastwood and now the government is saying "Do You Feel Lucky Punk?".... experimental gene therapy is what it is. It does NOT introduce any pathogen to your body, like ALL vaccines have done.

Mate , if you don’t want the Vaccine, fine. It’s a free World. But if you get Covid, please don’t come on here giving us all a RBR . I think I’d lose the will to live.

How dare you talk shit about my Real Beer Reviews

[NoSavingByTheBell]

COVID vaccines: Tens of thousands of “breakthrough” infections after shots
CDC reports 25,900 COVID-19 infections and 274 deaths in fully vaccinated people

and thats just in the US..... and its only April.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

The variants of the virus have already accumulated mutliple mutations that change its protein structure, and peoples' immune systems are already no longer recognizing them.

One big concern we are all seeing now is that these variants are escaping the immunity that we hope to acquire with immunization, so the antibodies that we have against specific targets are not working as effectively. They are already talking about a 3rd, 4th and 5th booster by September, December and February 2021.

[Primo Carnera]

The variants of the virus have already accumulated mutliple mutations that change its protein structure, and peoples' immune systems are already no longer recognizing them.

One big concern we are all seeing now is that these variants are escaping the immunity that we hope to acquire with immunization, so the antibodies that we have against specific targets are not working as effectively. They are already talking about a 3rd, 4th and 5th booster by September, December and February 2021.

Ok. What do you suggest?

[walrus]

The variants of the virus have already accumulated mutliple mutations that change its protein structure, and peoples' immune systems are already no longer recognizing them.

One big concern we are all seeing now is that these variants are escaping the immunity that we hope to acquire with immunization, so the antibodies that we have against specific targets are not working as effectively. They are already talking about a 3rd, 4th and 5th booster by September, December and February 2021.

Like beanz said you are ruining the forum with this nonsense. Don’t spread fud. I gotta take beanerschnitzels side on this one

[ykdadamaja]

I'm not interested in taking any of them. We have the Oxford/AstraZeneca here in The Bahamas and wider Caribbean through the COVAX facility, and we have all heard about the blood clotting issues.

Everyone started talking shit about the OX/AZ vaccine and started whooping and hollering for the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, until that showed to have blood clotting issues too and America had to take it out of circulation until they did not tests. So scratch that.

Now I am hearing that Israel is finding heart inflammation issues with the Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...shot-1.5401640


So I won't be taking any of that shit right now. I will wear my mask and roll the dice. Plus, I believe I had it before anyways... from the onset of 2020 prior to the lockdowns.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

[Beanz]

COVID vaccines: Tens of thousands of “breakthrough” infections after shots
CDC reports 25,900 COVID-19 infections and 274 deaths in fully vaccinated people

and thats just in the US..... and its only April.

No wonder you loved liars like Clinton and Trump. What a misleading way to misrepresent truth and sensationalize things so that you turn reality on it's head.

It is not even surprising that you would pull that quote from an article and then neglect to also tell us the same studies show that in the 77 Million vaccinated in the US there were only 5,800 cases of breakthrough infections (that’s .0075 percent of vaccinations); 396 resulted in hospitalization, and 74 in death. So not even 0.1 % of Vaccinations.

You are talking about vaccines with 95 and 97% success rates as though they were abject failures or some kind of lucky dip.

It is an incredibly dishonest way to try and convince yourself that you don't need to have the vaccine. You have already admitted it is because you are scared of needles so there is no need to pretend it is because they are some random untested, unproven quack medicine like you and your mates used to buy off Alex Jones for fucks sake.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-heal...tion-explained

[walrus]

COVID vaccines: Tens of thousands of “breakthrough” infections after shots
CDC reports 25,900 COVID-19 infections and 274 deaths in fully vaccinated people

and thats just in the US..... and its only April.

No wonder you loved liars like Clinton and Trump. What a misleading way to misrepresent truth and sensationalize things so that you turn reality on it's head.

It is not even surprising that you would pull that quote from an article and then neglect to also tell us the same studies show that in the 77 Million vaccinated in the US there were only 5,800 cases of breakthrough infections (that’s .0075 percent of vaccinations); 396 resulted in hospitalization, and 74 in death. So not even 0.1 % of Vaccinations.

You are talking about vaccines with 95 and 97% success rates as though they were abject failures or some kind of lucky dip.

It is an incredibly dishonest way to try and convince yourself that you don't need to have the vaccine. You have already admitted it is because you are scared of needles so there is no need to pretend it is because they are some random untested, unproven quack medicine like you and your mates used to buy off Alex Jones for fucks sake.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-heal...tion-explained

Schnitzel has you on the ropes now, he’s about to drop you