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    Default Re: Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Terence Crawford finally gets big fight against world class opponent as deal is struck for Shawn Porter title clash on November 20 at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.

    Terence Crawford will face Shawn Porter in a highly anticipated defence of his WBO welterweight world title on November 20 at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.

    The three-weight champion is widely regarded as one of the top three pound-for-pound fighters in the entire sport today, however he is yet to face a fellow world class fighter in their prime who comes close to his level.

    Crawford is the WBO welterweight champion and has been waiting a long time to face another top fighter


    Following his knockout of Kell Brook last year, it’s been unclear what fight would come next for WBO champion Crawford.

    The American became embroiled in spat with his promoter Bob Arum as both were frustrated over his current situation.

    The vast majority of the big-name fighters at welterweight today are signed with Al Haymon’s PBC, who rarely do business with Arum’s Top Rank.

    The super-fight all boxing fans want to see between Crawford and Errol Spence looks further away than ever for this reason.

    With fighters such as Spence and Porter out of his reach, Crawford has had to settle for facing lesser-known opposition and so been unable to generate big PPV numbers – part of the reason for the spat with his own promoter.

    Last month though, the WBO threw him a lifeline by ordering the bout with Porter.

    It initially looked like no deal would be agreed and the fight would go to purse bids, but now Top Rank’s Carl Moretti has confirmed to Kevin Iole that the sides have struck a deal.

    The bout will take place on November 20 at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.

    https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/9...-shawn-porter/


    And THIS, my fellow boxing fans... is why the big fights don't always happen, regardless of what the public may or may not want.

    I couldn't care less about the intricate business side of boxing. None of us in the real world will ever come close to making the kind of money these elite fighters make. And there's enough to go around to all involved.

    But it's the fans who ultimately pay the bills. So if our opinion doesn't mean diddly squat... there's something ultimately wrong with that.

    So Haymon rarely does business with Arum.

    Do we just leave it at that?? Isn't there some kind of mechanism whereby reasonable arrangements are "encouraged" (I really mean "forced") to make these fights happen??

    In the end, we're always left with the "what ifs." I mean... it's ok to throw around barroom conversations about mythical matchups between fighters of different eras. It's not like we have a time machine or something to make them happen.

    But when elite fighters exist in the same era... it's inexcusable for some big fights not to happen because... (cough)... Haymon won't deal with Arum (or viceversa).

    Yet the patience/tolerance of boxing fans is legendary. Heaven knows we've put up with more than our share of shady decisions, bullshit belts, diva champions, catchweights, cherry-picking, winking at PED violations, yadda yadda yadda.

    What's one more CRAP to put on top of the pile of crap?

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    Default Re: Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter

    shawn gets iced
    Apply shame. Apply fame. The crook and the flail.

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    Default Re: Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter

    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Crawford is now fighting a past it Porter who spends more time podcasting than training?!

    Crawford has ruined the prime years of his career where he should be making massive paydays and cementing his history.

    Like Fury, scared to loose and wasting his talent.

    Hope Josh Taylor can make it happen at 147 and expose some of these clowns!
    Porter past it or not, the dude has never been caught haggling or cherry picking. Just like Crawford, Spence- all 3 only fought once in 2020. Not sure who Sebastian Formella is, but Porter getting credited for landing 300+ seems like he is still in shape.
    I agree. I think Porter could have mellowed a but i've never seen him sandbag. Its unfortunate for all of the training methods I've seen him experiment with, a lot of it doesn't translate to the ring and it becomes the same Bulldozer approach. A shame he doesn't use more head movement or have more pop to his punches. He's got the bulk and the work ethic and good stamina to fight the way he does and make it to the end of a fight. He's also a fight not many want because hes too much work for not enough reward unless he's holding a strap.
    I can't fault Crawford. I mean his own promoter said he can't sell fights, I was like wow, isnt that the promoter's job? And just as with Floyd, Manny given the chance.... walked away from Arum!!! Yippy!!

    But in the process he ended up taking Crawford's fight away -so Bud got sidelined to see Arum's Pac choose Spence...only for Spence to pull out and we got Ugas! LOL!

    I see Arum as more at fault for Crawford not fighting often -then add on the pandemic. Last year was a wash for almost all boxers. And I dont think Bud would have ever caught on fire in USA. Omaha yeah!

    Yeah, most promotions lost money last year. I don't think Arum expected Manny to beat Thurman the way he did. Bud was going to be his next golden goose and then it looked like Manny got a second/ third wind and Arum put all his eggs in the Manny basket and cash out with Manny vs. spence and then it all disintegrated before his very eyes. So I wouldn't be too surprised to see him start showcasing the other fighters, but i think he's rationing all his fighters now and probably gets up every morning checks his bankbook, grumbles "covid bast@rds..." kicks his wife's dog before going to his desk and inches things along in his master plan where Teo, Bud, Valdez, Loma etc meet in his catch weight heaven and he can run the table..
    I too hope Josh Taylor will get his day. But it wont be the fault of Bud, SPence or Porter if he doesn't. They are all live dogs.

    I think Porter will do his usual and try to grind down Bud and I know sometimes too much is made of Bud's ability to switch up his stance, But I think there's opportunity there to send Porter to the third level of check hook hell.. Due to the size disparity I do worry about Bud getting an hand/wrist injury or cut stopping it but I really think Porter isn't going to prepare for this fight the way he should. "ortho, southpaw.. wont make a difference as long as he's going backward... and i'm going forward" It's always the bull that thinks the Matador is the one that's so close to dying on every pass.
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    Default Re: Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter

    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Crawford is now fighting a past it Porter who spends more time podcasting than training?!

    Crawford has ruined the prime years of his career where he should be making massive paydays and cementing his history.

    Like Fury, scared to loose and wasting his talent.

    Hope Josh Taylor can make it happen at 147 and expose some of these clowns!
    Porter past it or not, the dude has never been caught haggling or cherry picking. Just like Crawford, Spence- all 3 only fought once in 2020. Not sure who Sebastian Formella is, but Porter getting credited for landing 300+ seems like he is still in shape.
    I agree. I think Porter could have mellowed a but i've never seen him sandbag. Its unfortunate for all of the training methods I've seen him experiment with, a lot of it doesn't translate to the ring and it becomes the same Bulldozer approach. A shame he doesn't use more head movement or have more pop to his punches. He's got the bulk and the work ethic and good stamina to fight the way he does and make it to the end of a fight. He's also a fight not many want because hes too much work for not enough reward unless he's holding a strap.
    I can't fault Crawford. I mean his own promoter said he can't sell fights, I was like wow, isnt that the promoter's job? And just as with Floyd, Manny given the chance.... walked away from Arum!!! Yippy!!

    But in the process he ended up taking Crawford's fight away -so Bud got sidelined to see Arum's Pac choose Spence...only for Spence to pull out and we got Ugas! LOL!

    I see Arum as more at fault for Crawford not fighting often -then add on the pandemic. Last year was a wash for almost all boxers. And I dont think Bud would have ever caught on fire in USA. Omaha yeah!

    Yeah, most promotions lost money last year. I don't think Arum expected Manny to beat Thurman the way he did. Bud was going to be his next golden goose and then it looked like Manny got a second/ third wind and Arum put all his eggs in the Manny basket and cash out with Manny vs. spence and then it all disintegrated before his very eyes. So I wouldn't be too surprised to see him start showcasing the other fighters, but i think he's rationing all his fighters now and probably gets up every morning checks his bankbook, grumbles "covid bast@rds..." kicks his wife's dog before going to his desk and inches things along in his master plan where Teo, Bud, Valdez, Loma etc meet in his catch weight heaven and he can run the table..
    I too hope Josh Taylor will get his day. But it wont be the fault of Bud, SPence or Porter if he doesn't. They are all live dogs.

    I think Porter will do his usual and try to grind down Bud and I know sometimes too much is made of Bud's ability to switch up his stance, But I think there's opportunity there to send Porter to the third level of check hook hell.. Due to the size disparity I do worry about Bud getting an hand/wrist injury or cut stopping it but I really think Porter isn't going to prepare for this fight the way he should. "ortho, southpaw.. wont make a difference as long as he's going backward... and i'm going forward" It's always the bull that thinks the Matador is the one that's so close to dying on every pass.


    Perfect analogy.

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    Default Re: Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter

    So it’s Danny Garcia after this one is it Crawford?

    Wasted Talent.

    Hope this post car accident, damaged retina Spence smokes everyone in this weight class.

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    Default Re: Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter

    Terence Crawford has the 'craziest reaction time'

    Terence Crawford's all-American clash with Shawn Porter is a '50-50 fight', according to Timothy Bradley Jr.

    'Bud', 34, will defend his WBO welterweight title against the Ohio native in Las Vegas next month on November 20.

    The former two-time champ's chances of upsetting the pound-for-pound king have been written off by many, but Bradley insists it won't be a one-sided affair.

    The former 147lbs king told FightHype.com: “When you’re fighting a guy like Terence ‘Bud’ Crawford, there’s not one thing that you can say that’s how you get over the hump.

    "I think Shawn Porter, mentally, is one of the toughest guys.

    "His mentality, I love it, he reminds me of mine — he just wants to fight the best in the world — so I respect that and I respect him.

    “Crawford, he gets a chance to show if he’s special, like truly, truly special.

    "Shawn Porter’s given everybody in the division hell — everybody. He either lose by split decision, close when he fought against Errol Spence.

    "So this is a measuring stick, I think, that Crawford needs. We need to see what he can do against a guy like Shawn Porter. But I like the fight a lot. I think it’s a 50/50 fight."

    Fan favourite Porter hasn't fought since his solid performance against former IBO welterweight champ Sebastian Formella in August of last year.

    And Bradley reckons the ex-two-time-champ will give his former sparring partner a good run for his money if he fights the way he did against the German.

    He added: “Damn right it’s a 50/50 fight.

    "This is Shawn Porter we’re talking about, with a granite chin, a guy that’s cerebral, a guy that’s knows how to think inside the ring.

    "He can change rhythms off and on. Terence Crawford is a rhythm type of fighter. Once he gets going he starts tapping on you, tapping you, tapping you — it’s almost similar to [Emanuel] Navarrette — once he starts tapping you, getting his jab going, then the combinations are flying.

    "And I understand that so the fact that Shawn Porter, I know he knows how to change rhythms, he knows how to make adjustments inside the ring, he can box you at times, he can swarm you at times.

    “One of the areas maybe he needs to be careful with is his lunging, because Terence Crawford has the craziest reaction time when it comes to intercepting offense coming his way.

    “Many people think he stops Shawn Porter, I want to see that. I don’t know, Shawn Porter’s a different beast.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...cid=entnewsntp
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    Default Re: Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter

    If Crawford KTFO's Porter... I might even forgive the fact he's been holding up the works in welterweight for some time now.

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