How would you like the HWs to play out now?

[Master]

I think Joe Joyce smashes all but Fury and Usyk. Everyone else is avoiding him.

Seriously?

Joyce would destroy Wilder, overwhelm Whyte, stop Ruiz, too big for Parker and Chisora is nothing to him.

[TitoFan]

I think Joe Joyce smashes all but Fury and Usyk. Everyone else is avoiding him.

Seriously?

Joyce would destroy Wilder, overwhelm Whyte, stop Ruiz, too big for Parker and Chisora is nothing to him.

Haven't seen a full fight of Joyce, but I've seen enough. He's easy to hit with either hand... and doesn't exactly have blazing hand speed himself.

A fully recovered and focused Wilder crushes him. Fury would toy with him. The rest I'm not too sure about.

[Master]

I think Joe Joyce smashes all but Fury and Usyk. Everyone else is avoiding him.

Seriously?

Joyce would destroy Wilder, overwhelm Whyte, stop Ruiz, too big for Parker and Chisora is nothing to him.

Haven't seen a full fight of Joyce, but I've seen enough. He's easy to hit with either hand... and doesn't exactly have blazing hand speed himself.

A fully recovered and focused Wilder crushes him. Fury would toy with him. The rest I'm not too sure about.

Joyce chin is solid and Wilder will never recover from the losses to Fury. Cannot see Wilder keep Joyce off him but think Joyce will not get the chance to show how good he is. He is left in limbo at the moment.

[Primo Carnera]

I think Joe Joyce smashes all but Fury and Usyk. Everyone else is avoiding him.

Seriously?

Joyce would destroy Wilder, overwhelm Whyte, stop Ruiz, too big for Parker and Chisora is nothing to him.

I think a hell of a lot is being made of his win against a totally overrated Dubois. I have to admit, he was better than I thought. He must have serious power to cause the damage he did to Dubois just with pawing jabs. But it is a good jab, he does have good stamina, but there’s no getting away from the fact he is a plodder.
He could beat Wilder, most could, I don’t see Ruiz as a top HW till he gets in some shape, Parker would probably beat him on points, and Chisora is not a top HW.
But he could lose to any of Bakole, Ajagba, Sanchez, Wallin, Makhmudov or Gassiev. Maybe even Tony Yoka. Why not?

[Mark TKO]

An undisputed match up is what we the fans deserve.

And that's exactly why boxing won't allow us to get it.

[Master]

Tyson Fury identifies Joe Joyce as big threat in heavyweight division


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Tyson Fury has tipped Joe Joyce to be a future heavyweight world champion, according to promotor Frank Warren.

Joyce is undefeated in 13 fights and could be in line for a title shot as the WBO’s mandatory challenger. Champion Oleksandr Usyk is set to defend his belts in a rematch against Anthony Joshua early next year which would force Joyce to have to wait for his opportunity.

The 36-year-old is coming off a knockout win over the previously unbeaten British heavyweight Daniel Dubois and a stoppage of veteran Carlos Takam in July, and WBC champion Fury has identified the ‘Juggernaut’ as a future threat in the division.

“Tyson said that he’s the best one out there,” promoter Warren told Sky Sports. “That’s what Tyson’s opinion was.

“Can he go all the way? Yes he can. He’s got good ticker, a big heart. He’s strong, he walks forwards, he is the ‘Juggernaut’.

“Him and Usyk would be a great fight. He could hurt Usyk, he's a big man. Could he beat Usyk? Yes. He fancies it and I fancy it.”

Fury is yet to announce his next fight following his knockout victory over heavyweight rival Deontay Wilder last weekend.

The WBC champion could face challenger Dillian Whyte if the London fighter beats Otto Wallin later this month, but the ‘Gypsy King’ has hinted at retirement after questioning the “need” to fight following his title defence in Las Vegas.

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[TitoFan]

…but the ‘Gypsy King’ has hinted at retirement after questioning the “need” to fight following his title defence in Las Vegas.

Of course he has. I said as much before the Tyson-Wilder fight... and I wouldn't expect anything different.

Who's more likely to fight Whyte after a win... Fury or Wilder?

I'd say Wilder. Fury's too unstable with his actions and his career. He's liable to just retire and go into either acting or wrestling. You also never know about his emotional state. For that alone, I think a Wilder victory would be better for the division, short-term. It would keep things moving.... titles being united... etc.

Either way... I'm looking forward to Saturday night.

Of course he's got no "need."

He can retire any time he wants.

But if he truly wants to be considered an ATG... I'm afraid he's going to need more than a trilogy with Wilder and a sh*tty victory over "Timid Wlad" on his resume.

[Master]

Fury does play the retirement card too much. He does need to beat more than Wlad and Wilder to be considered the best of this generation. I think he will do it and become the undisputed champion.

[Master]

Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury may not be for undisputed - even with Oleksandr Usyk rematch win

The winner of Joshua's rematch with Usyk looks set to face Fury late next year, but may be forced to vacate the WBA strap with Robert Helenius looking to enforce his status as mandatory challenger for the 'super' belt.

Any potential showdown next year between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua may be a belt down with the WBA set to call Robert Helenius as mandatory challenger.

For the pair to meet Joshua must first progress beyond an uphill task against Oleksandr Usyk in their rematch early next year.

And Fury could be subject to a mandatory challenge from Dillian Whyte with the WBC set to rule on his interim champion status.

But any potential all-British fight between Fury and Joshua could be hindered further with Helenius next in the queue to receive his mandatory shot.

The Finnish heavyweight plans to act on his status according to his promoter Markus Sundman after he earned his title in an eliminator victory.

Sundman told Sky Sports : "Right now we are focused on the WBA mandatory position. Usyk should really be Robert's next bout.

"Robert fought a WBA elimination bout in March 2020 against Adam Kownacki, and he placed a stamp on that victory in the rematch on October 9.

"In the end, of course we have respect for [president] Gilberto [Mendoza] and the WBA, and we think that ultimately they will do the correct thing and formally order Robert as the next mandatory.

"We will do what is necessary to assure Robert's rightful position as Usyk's next WBA mandatory. The WBA mandatory is due next, and that must be Robert."

Joshua will need a much improved performance to stand a chance against Usyk who was oozing with class in a punch-perfect display last month.

Although the Briton currently faces a search for a new trainer in America and has drawn up a three-trainer shortlist for the resounding task.

Joshua has been backed by Lawrence Okolie to employ Fury's style during his rematch with Wilder to try and regain his unified world titles next year.

"He was in there with a world class fighter, a generational talent," Okolie told the Daily Mail. "It’s not just a case of you doing this and that happens.

"There’s another person in there trying to prevent that and knock you out. There’s stuff AJ can do to try and change the way the fight looks and feels, and I think he will.

"But in terms of his performance, he tried his best and it wasn’t good enough on the day. You have to just say Usyk was great that night and AJ has to work on certain things to beat that style.

"As you saw with Fury and Wilder, Wilder is an exceptional fighter, an exceptional puncher. But Fury decided, you know what, I’m 277-pounds and I’m going to let you know it. He pushed him back, he rallied through the hard rounds, ground him down and got the stoppage. I believe AJ can do something similar."

Fury is fresh off the back of an astonishing victory over Deontay Wilder and climbed off the canvas twice in a historic trilogy battle.

But he has hinted at retirement despite facing the prospect of a domestic return against Joshua's Matchroom stablemate Whyte.

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