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    Default How good was Deontay Wilder?

    Deontay Wilder won the WBC title against Stiverne 2015 and made 10 defences and was champion for just over 5 years which is the 12th longest reign. His knockout rate is 97% and 70% as champion. He was over 6 foot 6 inches weighs normally 220lb.

    Wilder became champion after beating Stiverne and defended it against Eric Molina, Duhaupas, Szpillca, Arreola, Washington, Stiverne, Ortiz, Fury (draw), Breazeale, and Ortiz before losing the title against Fury twice.

    Wilder was losing the fight against Ortiz, was wobbled numerous times and has poor boxing skills for a world champion.

    How would Wilder do against the old, recent and present fighters?

    Ali
    Joe Louis
    Rocky
    Sonny Liston
    Joe Frazier
    George Foreman
    Larry Holmes

    Lennox Lewis
    Wlad
    Vitali
    Holyfield
    Mike Tyson
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    AJ
    Usyk
    Whyte
    Joyce
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    Default Re: How good was Deontay Wilder?

    Limited skills but one of the hardest hitters we've ever seen.

    He'd be a danger to most on that list as long as he was in there.

    In this era he was Fury's toughest opponent because of that power
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    Default Re: How good was Deontay Wilder?

    Possibly the biggest moron of all time!

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    Default Re: How good was Deontay Wilder?

    You not heard of Amir Khan ?
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    Default Re: How good was Deontay Wilder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    You not heard of Amir Khan ?
    P4P Top 5 at least!!!!!

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    Default Re: How good was Deontay Wilder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Deontay Wilder won the WBC title against Stiverne 2015 and made 10 defences and was champion for just over 5 years which is the 12th longest reign. His knockout rate is 97% and 70% as champion. He was over 6 foot 6 inches weighs normally 220lb.

    Wilder became champion after beating Stiverne and defended it against Eric Molina, Duhaupas, Szpillca, Arreola, Washington, Stiverne, Ortiz, Fury (draw), Breazeale, and Ortiz before losing the title against Fury twice.

    Wilder was losing the fight against Ortiz, was wobbled numerous times and has poor boxing skills for a world champion.

    How would Wilder do against the old, recent and present fighters?

    Ali
    Joe Louis
    Rocky
    Sonny Liston
    Joe Frazier
    George Foreman
    Larry Holmes

    Lennox Lewis
    Wlad
    Vitali
    Holyfield
    Mike Tyson
    Bowe

    AJ
    Usyk
    Whyte
    Joyce
    He loses to every single one, with the exception of Joyce and possibly Whyte.
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    Default Re: How good was Deontay Wilder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Deontay Wilder won the WBC title against Stiverne 2015 and made 10 defences and was champion for just over 5 years which is the 12th longest reign. His knockout rate is 97% and 70% as champion. He was over 6 foot 6 inches weighs normally 220lb.

    Wilder became champion after beating Stiverne and defended it against Eric Molina, Duhaupas, Szpillca, Arreola, Washington, Stiverne, Ortiz, Fury (draw), Breazeale, and Ortiz before losing the title against Fury twice.

    Wilder was losing the fight against Ortiz, was wobbled numerous times and has poor boxing skills for a world champion.

    How would Wilder do against the old, recent and present fighters?

    Ali
    Joe Louis
    Rocky
    Sonny Liston
    Joe Frazier
    George Foreman
    Larry Holmes

    Lennox Lewis
    Wlad
    Vitali
    Holyfield
    Mike Tyson
    Bowe

    AJ
    Usyk
    Whyte
    Joyce
    He loses to every single one, with the exception of Joyce and possibly Whyte.


    Nah.

    He also beats Rocky (size difference) and Liston (ponderous and a good target for Wilder).

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    Default Re: How good was Deontay Wilder?

    Was struck me, was like did he retire?


    I truly think that almost all of us would have stated similar if this was Joe Louis. Again- he called his reign -bum of the month tour.
    I truly think that almost all of us would have stated similar if this was Rocky M. his reign was marred with the AARPP card holder tour. One old dude after another.


    Mike Tyson made a statement about Ray Robinson I never heard before. He stated Sugar had dozens of fights, where he was losing the fight but his 1-hitter quitter brought him back...How could we not have clowned him if he were fighting today?

    Ray Robinsin a great? Please he had got out boxed by A, B, C, D, one punch saved him, had to fight that short white dude 5 times? please he aint P4P.


    Fastforward today-- Wilder comes from behind again-and again.

    We're in this day so we see how he struggled & against whom he struggled with.
    10, 20 years from today? This is what they will know:
    10 defences and was champion for just over 5 years which is the 12th longest reign. His knockout rate is 97%


    Watching him reeltime- he was IMO an overachiever. A late bloomer in the sport. Considered the least of the Olympians & somehow came out with a medal.
    Somehow he won & put down one of the 2 best of his era 4x. A weak boxer did that!


    Historically? he's what Master wrote: 10 defences and was champion for just over 5 years which is the 12th longest reign. His knockout rate is 97%

    That's pretty good!
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    Default Re: How good was Deontay Wilder?

    Reminds me of a heavyweight gumbo of maybe a Briggs-Ruddock-Stewart. Said it back when he was flailing away on Telemundo undercards Wilder is the walking example of how much manufacturing, some punch and stacking numbers plays a part in a road to the top. Especially when it comes to kos. As with all records you can dig into not how many ko's you have but who are you knocking out? Just saying there on literal 175 guys off 6 yr retirements on there and at least 4 Macy day floats. Guy has more record padding than a mattress factory. But one thing I was clownishly wrong about was the man's courage and true confidence. For all the flaws and the cringe 'wrastlin type rantings and lack of fundamental boxing ability, Wilder walks the walk when the chips are down. And that you cannot manufacture or pretend. Does he reign and run row on names above no not for me. I don't put much stock in size or weight given his own smallish frame on stilts. But I have no doubt he would genuinely try to take their heads clean off before he fell. He and Joyce would actually be a really good fight.

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    Default Re: How good was Deontay Wilder?

    I started the thread because Wilder’s best days are behind him and do not see him become a champion again.

    Joe Louis destroyed the majority of his opponents during his reign and did not struggle or get wobbled as Wilder did.

    The 10 defences, being champion for just over 5 years which is the 12th longest reign and having a 97% knockout rate is more to do with the lack of depth at the division than how good Wilder is.

    I feel he would have got beaten by all on the list except maybe Rocky. Liston breaks him down with his jab and knocks him out.

    I do not see him become a champion in the 1970’s or 1990’s.
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