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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

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    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.
    the main point was what fight did cheat in. if you want to say he got caught allegedly trying to cheat, i could understand that stance. but i wasn't asking about attempting to cheat. i asked what fight did he cheat in. you said antonio was caught cheating in the shane fight. do you mean attempting to cheat or in the actual fight? because my question was in what fight did he cheat in. meaning once the bell rung & the fight ended he was caught cheating in the actual fight. so what fight did antonio cheat in?
    A burglar can still be charged for burglary even if he did not enter the house he was intending to steal from because he was equipped. Margarita intended to illegally harden his gloves to inflict damage to Mosley. The only reason Shane's team agreed to fight was on the assurance that he had wrapped his gloves fairly after he was caught. Margarito was guilty and suspended for this incident.

    If he did it for this fight how many others did he do it in?
    can there be a fight without the fighters actually fighting? like i said if you want to say that he was caught allegedly trying to cheat i can understand. you say shanes team agreed to fight because there was an assurance that antonio wrapped his gloves fairly. so antonio fought shane with fairly wrapped gloves. so he didn't cheat in the actual fight with shane. so what fight did he cheat in?
    Who cares if it was after the first bell or not? Only you. It does not matter he was found guilty so what more evidence do you need?
    you are missing the point. i understand where you are coming from. attempting to cheat, no problem with your position. but according to you the shane fight was fair. so i'm asking what actual fight, bell rings punches thrown did antonio cheat in?
    If I said the Cotto fight you will say he did not actually get caught. So what is the point of asking which "fight" when you know officially it is none.
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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

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    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.
    the main point was what fight did cheat in. if you want to say he got caught allegedly trying to cheat, i could understand that stance. but i wasn't asking about attempting to cheat. i asked what fight did he cheat in. you said antonio was caught cheating in the shane fight. do you mean attempting to cheat or in the actual fight? because my question was in what fight did he cheat in. meaning once the bell rung & the fight ended he was caught cheating in the actual fight. so what fight did antonio cheat in?
    A burglar can still be charged for burglary even if he did not enter the house he was intending to steal from because he was equipped. Margarita intended to illegally harden his gloves to inflict damage to Mosley. The only reason Shane's team agreed to fight was on the assurance that he had wrapped his gloves fairly after he was caught. Margarito was guilty and suspended for this incident.

    If he did it for this fight how many others did he do it in?
    can there be a fight without the fighters actually fighting? like i said if you want to say that he was caught allegedly trying to cheat i can understand. you say shanes team agreed to fight because there was an assurance that antonio wrapped his gloves fairly. so antonio fought shane with fairly wrapped gloves. so he didn't cheat in the actual fight with shane. so what fight did he cheat in?
    Who cares if it was after the first bell or not? Only you. It does not matter he was found guilty so what more evidence do you need?
    you are missing the point. i understand where you are coming from. attempting to cheat, no problem with your position. but according to you the shane fight was fair. so i'm asking what actual fight, bell rings punches thrown did antonio cheat in?
    If I said the Cotto fight you will say he did not actually get caught. So what is the point of asking which "fight" when you know officially it is none.
    so officially he never cheated in actual combat? if we go by that, is it not worse for someone like shane who admitted to cheating in combat? or others that have been caught using peds after a fight? these cheaters who cheated in combat are allowed in the hall of fame
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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

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    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.
    the main point was what fight did cheat in. if you want to say he got caught allegedly trying to cheat, i could understand that stance. but i wasn't asking about attempting to cheat. i asked what fight did he cheat in. you said antonio was caught cheating in the shane fight. do you mean attempting to cheat or in the actual fight? because my question was in what fight did he cheat in. meaning once the bell rung & the fight ended he was caught cheating in the actual fight. so what fight did antonio cheat in?
    A burglar can still be charged for burglary even if he did not enter the house he was intending to steal from because he was equipped. Margarita intended to illegally harden his gloves to inflict damage to Mosley. The only reason Shane's team agreed to fight was on the assurance that he had wrapped his gloves fairly after he was caught. Margarito was guilty and suspended for this incident.

    If he did it for this fight how many others did he do it in?
    can there be a fight without the fighters actually fighting? like i said if you want to say that he was caught allegedly trying to cheat i can understand. you say shanes team agreed to fight because there was an assurance that antonio wrapped his gloves fairly. so antonio fought shane with fairly wrapped gloves. so he didn't cheat in the actual fight with shane. so what fight did he cheat in?
    Who cares if it was after the first bell or not? Only you. It does not matter he was found guilty so what more evidence do you need?
    you are missing the point. i understand where you are coming from. attempting to cheat, no problem with your position. but according to you the shane fight was fair. so i'm asking what actual fight, bell rings punches thrown did antonio cheat in?


    No. It is you who are missing the point, playing word games to justify the fact that you fully support a known cheater. That again, is your prerogative.

    But spare us your "merry-go-round" games like you do with the COVID issue.

    I realize that, playground style, you always need to have the last word... so you'll surely have some retort prepared that in essence doesn't prove a damn thing, other than the fact that you willingly overlook the FACTS of what happened and happily support a known cheater.

    Again... none of this surprises me.

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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

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    Semantics Tic. You are good at that to avoid the main point.
    the main point was what fight did cheat in. if you want to say he got caught allegedly trying to cheat, i could understand that stance. but i wasn't asking about attempting to cheat. i asked what fight did he cheat in. you said antonio was caught cheating in the shane fight. do you mean attempting to cheat or in the actual fight? because my question was in what fight did he cheat in. meaning once the bell rung & the fight ended he was caught cheating in the actual fight. so what fight did antonio cheat in?
    A burglar can still be charged for burglary even if he did not enter the house he was intending to steal from because he was equipped. Margarita intended to illegally harden his gloves to inflict damage to Mosley. The only reason Shane's team agreed to fight was on the assurance that he had wrapped his gloves fairly after he was caught. Margarito was guilty and suspended for this incident.

    If he did it for this fight how many others did he do it in?
    can there be a fight without the fighters actually fighting? like i said if you want to say that he was caught allegedly trying to cheat i can understand. you say shanes team agreed to fight because there was an assurance that antonio wrapped his gloves fairly. so antonio fought shane with fairly wrapped gloves. so he didn't cheat in the actual fight with shane. so what fight did he cheat in?
    Who cares if it was after the first bell or not? Only you. It does not matter he was found guilty so what more evidence do you need?
    you are missing the point. i understand where you are coming from. attempting to cheat, no problem with your position. but according to you the shane fight was fair. so i'm asking what actual fight, bell rings punches thrown did antonio cheat in?


    No. It is you who are missing the point, playing word games to justify the fact that you fully support a known cheater. That again, is your prerogative.

    But spare us your "merry-go-round" games like you do with the COVID issue.

    I realize that, playground style, you always need to have the last word... so you'll surely have some retort prepared that in essence doesn't prove a damn thing, other than the fact that you willingly overlook the FACTS of what happened and happily support a known cheater.

    Again... none of this surprises me.
    all you have to do is prove what fight, actual combat antonio cheated in. it has been admitted in this very thread that it is officially none. i am not supporting anyone as i have already said. if you want to say that antonio was caught trying to cheat i have no issue with your opinion. it is not the point i am making. i am asking what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it has been admitted in this thread that the shane fight was fair. so what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? let's see if you can bring yourself to be honest
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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

    I think you're all being a bit harsh on old tlc here, in Court he'd win with this argument...

    Saying that though I fully believe that Margarito was up to no good and my belief is that he's a dodgy cheat...


    Also can we get back to posting gender swapped boxers....for academic purposes of course :S... What would Katie Taylor or David Haye look like as a man?

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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

    All Tic had to say was he sees no difference between someone like Margarito and Mosely. Both cheated rather than go his usual convoluted way to make his point.
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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

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    All Tic had to say was he sees no difference between someone like Margarito and Mosely. Both cheated rather than go his usual convoluted way to make his point.


    I think we all know that.

    It boils down to our definition of "cheater". Our definition is someone who cheats or is caught attempting to cheat. Either way he's a cheater. If tic wants to have his own definition, that's fine.

    What none of us will do is go down that rabbit hole of "proof" we've seen a nauseating number of times before (see: COVID).

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    All Tic had to say was he sees no difference between someone like Margarito and Mosely. Both cheated rather than go his usual convoluted way to make his point.
    i asked what fight antonio cheated in. you should have asked if you were unsure by what i meant by fight. for me a fight is the combat that takes place between the ropes
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    All Tic had to say was he sees no difference between someone like Margarito and Mosely. Both cheated rather than go his usual convoluted way to make his point.


    I think we all know that.

    It boils down to our definition of "cheater". Our definition is someone who cheats or is caught attempting to cheat. Either way he's a cheater. If tic wants to have his own definition, that's fine.

    What none of us will do is go down that rabbit hole of "proof" we've seen a nauseating number of times before (see: COVID).
    i asked what fight antonio cheated in. you made an assumption on what i meant by fight. that is your error. my question was not about the definition of a cheater. it was about what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it has been admitted in this thread that it is none. can you bring yourself to admit that & be honest?
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

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    All Tic had to say was he sees no difference between someone like Margarito and Mosely. Both cheated rather than go his usual convoluted way to make his point.


    I think we all know that.

    It boils down to our definition of "cheater". Our definition is someone who cheats or is caught attempting to cheat. Either way he's a cheater. If tic wants to have his own definition, that's fine.

    What none of us will do is go down that rabbit hole of "proof" we've seen a nauseating number of times before (see: COVID).
    i asked what fight antonio cheated in. you made an assumption on what i meant by fight. that is your error. my question was not about the definition of a cheater. it was about what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it has been admitted in this thread that it is none. can you bring yourself to admit that & be honest?


    NO... IT... HASN'T

    Everyone else believes he must have cheated in other fights, if he was caught trying to cheat in the Mosley fight. You choose to believe he never cheated. Your opinion is not any better than anybody else's.

    Capiche?

    End of story. Good night.

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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

    BTW... everything from here on out will be a meme, or a cut/paste from previous posts.

    I can't be bothered to respond to your insistence on having the last word with your semantic games.

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    All Tic had to say was he sees no difference between someone like Margarito and Mosely. Both cheated rather than go his usual convoluted way to make his point.


    I think we all know that.

    It boils down to our definition of "cheater". Our definition is someone who cheats or is caught attempting to cheat. Either way he's a cheater. If tic wants to have his own definition, that's fine.

    What none of us will do is go down that rabbit hole of "proof" we've seen a nauseating number of times before (see: COVID).
    i asked what fight antonio cheated in. you made an assumption on what i meant by fight. that is your error. my question was not about the definition of a cheater. it was about what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in. it has been admitted in this thread that it is none. can you bring yourself to admit that & be honest?


    NO... IT... HASN'T

    Everyone else believes he must have cheated in other fights, if he was caught trying to cheat in the Mosley fight. You choose to believe he never cheated. Your opinion is not any better than anybody else's.

    Capiche?

    End of story. Good night.
    it was admitted in post number thirty one of this thread. what everyone believes is irrelevant to my question. you even admit in this post that he was caught trying to cheat. my question was what fight, actual combat did antonio cheat in? you can believe & have any opinion you want. that is not proof though. the fact that you can't bring yourself to admit the truth & be honest speak volumes
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    BTW... everything from here on out will be a meme, or a cut/paste from previous posts.

    I can't be bothered to respond to your insistence on having the last word with your semantic games.
    this is the reaction by someone who's beliefs are challenged & they are unable to proves that belief is true
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    BTW... everything from here on out will be a meme, or a cut/paste from previous posts.

    I can't be bothered to respond to your insistence on having the last word with your semantic games.
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    BTW... everything from here on out will be a meme, or a cut/paste from previous posts.

    I can't be bothered to respond to your insistence on having the last word with your semantic games.
    this is the reaction by someone who's beliefs are challenged & they are unable to proves that belief is true
    fyi

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    BTW... everything from here on out will be a meme, or a cut/paste from previous posts.

    I can't be bothered to respond to your insistence on having the last word with your semantic games.

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    Default Re: Margarito plans to sue for admittance into HOF

    denialism
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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