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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    If your using the names they're announced as I'm ring, imagine if Apollo Creed made the list... they'd run out of room pretty quick.

    3. Apollo the Dancing destroyer, the king of sti......

    There is the obvious problem of him being a dead fictional character of course.
    what i mean is like say jesse rodriguez, instead of his real name jesse franco. i would list him as jesse rodriguez, as that what they announce in the ring
    I was just joking, I just thought of rocky four then and Apollo's massive list of names. I'd have no problem with big Wang going on a list as Srisket Sor Rungvisai even though that's like a supermarket sponsor's name :S.

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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    If your using the names they're announced as I'm ring, imagine if Apollo Creed made the list... they'd run out of room pretty quick.

    3. Apollo the Dancing destroyer, the king of sti......

    There is the obvious problem of him being a dead fictional character of course.
    what i mean is like say jesse rodriguez, instead of his real name jesse franco. i would list him as jesse rodriguez, as that what they announce in the ring
    I was just joking, I just thought of rocky four then and Apollo's massive list of names. I'd have no problem with big Wang going on a list as Srisket Sor Rungvisai even though that's like a supermarket sponsor's name :S.
    no issue, i knew what you meant. i was just trying to better explain what i was meaning
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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    NAOYA INOUE has moved to the top of Ring Magazine's latest pound-for-pound rankings.

    The Japanese knockout specialist took just two rounds to blast out Nonito Donaire in their unification bantamweight rematch this week.


    And that has been enough to see 29-year-old take top spot in the latest rankings that were released this week.

    Canelo Alvarez had been in top spot for several months, but he has now been bumped off in the Ring Magazine's P4P top ten boxers.

    The Mexican ace, 31, was outpointed by Russia's WBA light-heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol last month.

    It was just the second defeat of his 61-fight career, with his previous loss coming at the hands of Floyd Mayweather in 2013.

    Prior to Canelo's shock defeat, he was sitting pretty at the top of the Ring's P4P list.

    But he has now plummeted down in the rankings, while there is still no room for Tyson Fury after he signed off his career with a brutal knockout victory over Dillian Whyte last month.

    The Ring Magazine still counts Fury as their top heavyweight and champion, though they have omitted him from their updated list.

    And there is also no room for Anthony Joshua either - although that could all change if he wins his rematch with No.2 Oleksandr Usyk.

    The Ukrainian took the heavyweight titles from AJ last September, and that also took him top of the P4P list.

    But now Inoue’s latest victory, which unified the bantamweight division, propelled him above Usyk into pole position.

    And, with Fury and Joshua’s omission, that means there is now only one British boxer left in the top ten.

    Unbeaten star Josh Taylor retains his place, although he has dropped from sixth to ninth.

    The 19-0 Scot is not to blame for the terrible scorecards that gifted him an undeserved win over Jack Catterall back in February but his air of invincibility has definitely suffered a dent.

    Prior to that bout Taylor was one of British boxing’s biggest success stories, racing to undisputed 10st glory by taking on all of the best in his way and beating them convincingly.

    He is definitely not the first big star to dodge a costly bullet thanks to some skew-whiff scoring, and his reputation has taken a big hit.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18853...ound-rankings/
    Get beterbiev up there, what a monster... Although bivol has a chance against him.. hopefully that happens soon

    I'll look up his nickname so the sun can list him under that.
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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    NAOYA INOUE has moved to the top of Ring Magazine's latest pound-for-pound rankings.

    The Japanese knockout specialist took just two rounds to blast out Nonito Donaire in their unification bantamweight rematch this week.


    And that has been enough to see 29-year-old take top spot in the latest rankings that were released this week.

    Canelo Alvarez had been in top spot for several months, but he has now been bumped off in the Ring Magazine's P4P top ten boxers.

    The Mexican ace, 31, was outpointed by Russia's WBA light-heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol last month.

    It was just the second defeat of his 61-fight career, with his previous loss coming at the hands of Floyd Mayweather in 2013.

    Prior to Canelo's shock defeat, he was sitting pretty at the top of the Ring's P4P list.

    But he has now plummeted down in the rankings, while there is still no room for Tyson Fury after he signed off his career with a brutal knockout victory over Dillian Whyte last month.

    The Ring Magazine still counts Fury as their top heavyweight and champion, though they have omitted him from their updated list.

    And there is also no room for Anthony Joshua either - although that could all change if he wins his rematch with No.2 Oleksandr Usyk.

    The Ukrainian took the heavyweight titles from AJ last September, and that also took him top of the P4P list.

    But now Inoue’s latest victory, which unified the bantamweight division, propelled him above Usyk into pole position.

    And, with Fury and Joshua’s omission, that means there is now only one British boxer left in the top ten.

    Unbeaten star Josh Taylor retains his place, although he has dropped from sixth to ninth.

    The 19-0 Scot is not to blame for the terrible scorecards that gifted him an undeserved win over Jack Catterall back in February but his air of invincibility has definitely suffered a dent.

    Prior to that bout Taylor was one of British boxing’s biggest success stories, racing to undisputed 10st glory by taking on all of the best in his way and beating them convincingly.

    He is definitely not the first big star to dodge a costly bullet thanks to some skew-whiff scoring, and his reputation has taken a big hit.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18853...ound-rankings/
    Get beterbiev up there, what a monster... Although bivol has a chance against him.. hopefully that happens soon

    I agree. Where would you insert Beterbiev? I'd put him anywhere from 3rd to 5th.

    (And I'd just call him Artur).

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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    NAOYA INOUE has moved to the top of Ring Magazine's latest pound-for-pound rankings.

    The Japanese knockout specialist took just two rounds to blast out Nonito Donaire in their unification bantamweight rematch this week.


    And that has been enough to see 29-year-old take top spot in the latest rankings that were released this week.

    Canelo Alvarez had been in top spot for several months, but he has now been bumped off in the Ring Magazine's P4P top ten boxers.

    The Mexican ace, 31, was outpointed by Russia's WBA light-heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol last month.

    It was just the second defeat of his 61-fight career, with his previous loss coming at the hands of Floyd Mayweather in 2013.

    Prior to Canelo's shock defeat, he was sitting pretty at the top of the Ring's P4P list.

    But he has now plummeted down in the rankings, while there is still no room for Tyson Fury after he signed off his career with a brutal knockout victory over Dillian Whyte last month.

    The Ring Magazine still counts Fury as their top heavyweight and champion, though they have omitted him from their updated list.

    And there is also no room for Anthony Joshua either - although that could all change if he wins his rematch with No.2 Oleksandr Usyk.

    The Ukrainian took the heavyweight titles from AJ last September, and that also took him top of the P4P list.

    But now Inoue’s latest victory, which unified the bantamweight division, propelled him above Usyk into pole position.

    And, with Fury and Joshua’s omission, that means there is now only one British boxer left in the top ten.

    Unbeaten star Josh Taylor retains his place, although he has dropped from sixth to ninth.

    The 19-0 Scot is not to blame for the terrible scorecards that gifted him an undeserved win over Jack Catterall back in February but his air of invincibility has definitely suffered a dent.

    Prior to that bout Taylor was one of British boxing’s biggest success stories, racing to undisputed 10st glory by taking on all of the best in his way and beating them convincingly.

    He is definitely not the first big star to dodge a costly bullet thanks to some skew-whiff scoring, and his reputation has taken a big hit.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18853...ound-rankings/
    Get beterbiev up there, what a monster... Although bivol has a chance against him.. hopefully that happens soon

    I agree. Where would you insert Beterbiev? I'd put him anywhere from 3rd to 5th.

    (And I'd just call him Artur).
    I'd put him around 5 i think, the guy is an offensive Monster and he's beating the opposition and taking the belts, although i think you could claim bivol should be ahead for beating Alvarez in such Fashion... For me the top 3 or 4 is set (Inoue, usyk,Crawford/Spence depending on your opinion)... After that the order doesn't matter too much, to me at least.

    Just get bivol v beterbiev done and then the winner is potentially 3rd on my list, depending on how Crawford and Spence do.

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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    NAOYA INOUE has moved to the top of Ring Magazine's latest pound-for-pound rankings.

    The Japanese knockout specialist took just two rounds to blast out Nonito Donaire in their unification bantamweight rematch this week.


    And that has been enough to see 29-year-old take top spot in the latest rankings that were released this week.

    Canelo Alvarez had been in top spot for several months, but he has now been bumped off in the Ring Magazine's P4P top ten boxers.

    The Mexican ace, 31, was outpointed by Russia's WBA light-heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol last month.

    It was just the second defeat of his 61-fight career, with his previous loss coming at the hands of Floyd Mayweather in 2013.

    Prior to Canelo's shock defeat, he was sitting pretty at the top of the Ring's P4P list.

    But he has now plummeted down in the rankings, while there is still no room for Tyson Fury after he signed off his career with a brutal knockout victory over Dillian Whyte last month.

    The Ring Magazine still counts Fury as their top heavyweight and champion, though they have omitted him from their updated list.

    And there is also no room for Anthony Joshua either - although that could all change if he wins his rematch with No.2 Oleksandr Usyk.

    The Ukrainian took the heavyweight titles from AJ last September, and that also took him top of the P4P list.

    But now Inoue’s latest victory, which unified the bantamweight division, propelled him above Usyk into pole position.

    And, with Fury and Joshua’s omission, that means there is now only one British boxer left in the top ten.

    Unbeaten star Josh Taylor retains his place, although he has dropped from sixth to ninth.

    The 19-0 Scot is not to blame for the terrible scorecards that gifted him an undeserved win over Jack Catterall back in February but his air of invincibility has definitely suffered a dent.

    Prior to that bout Taylor was one of British boxing’s biggest success stories, racing to undisputed 10st glory by taking on all of the best in his way and beating them convincingly.

    He is definitely not the first big star to dodge a costly bullet thanks to some skew-whiff scoring, and his reputation has taken a big hit.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18853...ound-rankings/
    Get beterbiev up there, what a monster... Although bivol has a chance against him.. hopefully that happens soon

    I agree. Where would you insert Beterbiev? I'd put him anywhere from 3rd to 5th.

    (And I'd just call him Artur).
    I'd put him around 5 i think, the guy is an offensive Monster and he's beating the opposition and taking the belts, although i think you could claim bivol should be ahead for beating Alvarez in such Fashion... For me the top 3 or 4 is set (Inoue, usyk,Crawford/Spence depending on your opinion)... After that the order doesn't matter too much, to me at least.

    Just get bivol v beterbiev done and then the winner is potentially 3rd on my list, depending on how Crawford and Spence do.

    To me, the Beterbiev-Bivol winner, (if done in dominating fashion), could potentially vault over the likes of Usyk, Crawford, and Spence... and end up second behind Inoue.

    (I'm not taking that little guy out of first anytime in the near future).

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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Yeah i could agree with that, i think there's not really a wrong answer for who would be top or top 3 if the bivol/beterbiev and Crawford/Spence fights happen soon.
    Although after saying that i don't think I'd ever have beterbiev top, his defense just does look good enough for the top spot in my opinion.

    I'm just loving Inoue and usyk right now though.

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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
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    I think p4p has become a festering cyst for so many fighters and fans. Really feels like it's cheapened and lost a great deal of any substance and big picture thinking. But of course we knew that when the Ring put Broner at #5 . It's always been subjective but within less than a 1 month span it's a literal flavor of the month now. From 4-30 to 5-22 and then immediately see soooo many insisting Bivol, Stevenson and Charlo just waltz right on to it thus 3 other dropped right off.

    They're going to need a bigger list.
    you got it. just a bit of fun for me. all the talk around dmitry, shakur & charlo but no love for artur
    artur now feeling the love
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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    For some people, bantamweight destroyer and current WBA/IBF/WBC champion Naoya Inoue is already the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world today. “The Monster” says he needs to unify the bantamweight division and then move up and rule at super-bantamweight to achieve the distinction. Inoue, who ruined Nonito Donaire inside a couple of rounds in their return fight, adding the WBC belt to the WBA and IBF titles he already held, now wants the sole strap that’s left, this the WBO title which is currently the property of Britain’s Paul Butler.

    Speaking with the media in his homeland of Japan today, Inoue, 23-0(20) said he wants to fight Butler next and then make the move up to 122 pounds. Another Inoue’s goals is to retire unbeaten, this at the age of 35.

    “People were saying that me becoming the number one pound-for-pound fighter all depended on what happened in the [second] Donaire fight, and things worked out as well as I could have imagined,” Inoue said. “From here on in, I want to give performances worthy of the number one pound-for-pound fighter. In order to do that, I need to unify the bantamweight titles and then take on the super-bantamweight division. If it (the Butler fight) happens by the end of this year, I don’t care whether it happens in Japan, the US or Britain. It really doesn’t matter to me. I want the fight wherever it is. I always try to knock out my opponent and I think that’s been recognised.”

    There is zero doubt about it: Inoue’s “Monster” punching power has been recognised by all. Some fans moaned and groaned when Ring Magazine placed the 29 year old at the top of their pound-for-pound rankings, while others agreed and do agree. But it’s great that Inoue himself feels he needs to do more in order to be fully recognised as the best of the best. Inoue is still ambitious and, as “easy” an assignment as a fight with Butler, 34-2(19), may be in the opinion of many, Inoue taking on the best at 122 will be something to see.

    Can Inoue rule the world at a fourth weight class? If so, will everyone agree Inoue is the pound-for-pound best on the planet? Inoue says he hopes to be fully content by the time he turns 35.

    “I’d like to think that when I turn 35, I will be able to look back and think I was happy that I became a boxer,” he said.

    We fans sure are happy Inoue became a boxer. If you don’t agree that Inoue is the pound-for-pound best right now, you have to agree he is one of the most consistently exciting fighters operating today. Has Inoue ever been in a dull fight? Is such a thing even possible? Paul Butler faces a daunting task indeed.

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    Default Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?

    Those fans who... "moaned and groaned when Ring Magazine placed the 29 year old at the top of their pound-for-pound rankings"... probably don't grasp the concept of p4p rankings.

    Just cause a fighter occupies a lighter weight division, and isn't a PPV staple... doesn't mean he can't be deserving.

    Granted, p4p rankings and $4 will buy you a cup of coffee at Starbucks... but they're still there for a reason.

    Inoue fights all comers.... owns impressive victories over world champions.... will fight anywhere.... there is very little (none) drama attached to the pre-fights... etc, etc, etc.

    It's refreshing to see fighters like this occupy the top of p4p rankings.

    As it SHOULD be!!

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