Biden is incompetent isn't he?

[TIC]

Well he's not an incompetent grease stain of a Traitor either so there's that

we've lost the plot over last half dozen+ years no doubt. Lost too easily in extremes now if you ask me. No President is your savior.

But when I say turn to God and leave these men alone, people call me an insane Church guy? Turn to God and leave these other gods alone. They can't save you or help you.


I do note, however, that with the removal of prayer from the schools, American kids are more violent, confused, angry and are getting killed on school campuses. The devil has America wound up and it has to get back to Godly principles....

You are getting very preachy since you found god.

I'm telling the truth. Only what I can testify in. I tell you to believe. It works! His name has not been around the centuries because it is/was some scam or it isn't real... HE IS REAL! His word is true. Believe in his son, Jesus Christ and also believe in the Holy Spirit and believe that his messenger Mohammed knew the truth.

how did you prove your belief is real?

It's a belief and I believe he is real. You do not have to subscribe, but for people like me who have been saved and are being saved, we see and experience what we have. I only could tell you what my experience has been and it is all up to you.

but you claimed he is real & i asked how you proved that claim. so are you now conceding that it's only a belief? you can believe whatever you like but when you make claims about something being real then you need to prove that to be true

To me who sees miracles on a daily basis, the people being transformed, lives being turned around and broken hearts mended, only someone other than us can do these things. These things don't happen by magic, but by the Holy Spirit. So you want physical proof and I would say look around you. God is everywhere. Even if you don't want to think it there is something that created this entire planet we are on and just as an ant doesn't know you are a human being, so much more don't we understand the God above and know his presence.

The book asks us to believe. Not see. But believe. Our minds are too small to grasp the magnitude of what God is. We can barely grasp the magnitude of what our spouse/lover is capable of, let alone a higher being.

Just open your mind to belief and be transformed. Read the bible, it is not a bad read if you get past the literal tone of some of the scriptures. lol...

For example, I think we can put this abortion issue to rest because the bible kinda sanctions it. Read the book of Numbers 5: 11-31 and it tells you that the priest induced labour on a woman suspected of infidelity. Kinda blew my mind when I read that, but the Bible is full of truths and gore.

When I read this, my mind ran on some of the things the "old people" from the island would tell you about how they had to give the young girls a thing called "pond bush" to induce labour when they were underage and pregnant. Pond bush is a bush and when you boil it and mix it with water for the most part, you give it to the teenage girl and she would miscarry if she is pregnant. Better than a back alley abortion or a merchant of death in these abortion clinics, to be honest. We are fighting over something God has already spoke about and allowed- this is a dead issue to me now.

Funny thing is why this struck me is because my last law term paper was on abortion and is Roe v Wade the right decision, which I said no it wasn't for legal reasons. But for moral reasons, I see things clearly now. God will never sanction evil and if a woman is unfaithful then evil must be cut out at all costs. He is a rough God when he has to be...and that's what makes him to be feared too. He is not some sissy namby pamby, wimpy God just doing everything we pray for. HE IS GOD!!! And besides him there is no other!

Numbers 5:11-31
New International Version
The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

you have already admitted it is a belief, i'm not interested in your interpretations or stories. religion is just another tool used to control through fear. in regards to abortion, taking an innocent life is never right

[ykdadamaja]

Well he's not an incompetent grease stain of a Traitor either so there's that

we've lost the plot over last half dozen+ years no doubt. Lost too easily in extremes now if you ask me. No President is your savior.

But when I say turn to God and leave these men alone, people call me an insane Church guy? Turn to God and leave these other gods alone. They can't save you or help you.


I do note, however, that with the removal of prayer from the schools, American kids are more violent, confused, angry and are getting killed on school campuses. The devil has America wound up and it has to get back to Godly principles....

You are getting very preachy since you found god.

I'm telling the truth. Only what I can testify in. I tell you to believe. It works! His name has not been around the centuries because it is/was some scam or it isn't real... HE IS REAL! His word is true. Believe in his son, Jesus Christ and also believe in the Holy Spirit and believe that his messenger Mohammed knew the truth.

how did you prove your belief is real?

It's a belief and I believe he is real. You do not have to subscribe, but for people like me who have been saved and are being saved, we see and experience what we have. I only could tell you what my experience has been and it is all up to you.

but you claimed he is real & i asked how you proved that claim. so are you now conceding that it's only a belief? you can believe whatever you like but when you make claims about something being real then you need to prove that to be true

To me who sees miracles on a daily basis, the people being transformed, lives being turned around and broken hearts mended, only someone other than us can do these things. These things don't happen by magic, but by the Holy Spirit. So you want physical proof and I would say look around you. God is everywhere. Even if you don't want to think it there is something that created this entire planet we are on and just as an ant doesn't know you are a human being, so much more don't we understand the God above and know his presence.

The book asks us to believe. Not see. But believe. Our minds are too small to grasp the magnitude of what God is. We can barely grasp the magnitude of what our spouse/lover is capable of, let alone a higher being.

Just open your mind to belief and be transformed. Read the bible, it is not a bad read if you get past the literal tone of some of the scriptures. lol...

For example, I think we can put this abortion issue to rest because the bible kinda sanctions it. Read the book of Numbers 5: 11-31 and it tells you that the priest induced labour on a woman suspected of infidelity. Kinda blew my mind when I read that, but the Bible is full of truths and gore.

When I read this, my mind ran on some of the things the "old people" from the island would tell you about how they had to give the young girls a thing called "pond bush" to induce labour when they were underage and pregnant. Pond bush is a bush and when you boil it and mix it with water for the most part, you give it to the teenage girl and she would miscarry if she is pregnant. Better than a back alley abortion or a merchant of death in these abortion clinics, to be honest. We are fighting over something God has already spoke about and allowed- this is a dead issue to me now.

Funny thing is why this struck me is because my last law term paper was on abortion and is Roe v Wade the right decision, which I said no it wasn't for legal reasons. But for moral reasons, I see things clearly now. God will never sanction evil and if a woman is unfaithful then evil must be cut out at all costs. He is a rough God when he has to be...and that's what makes him to be feared too. He is not some sissy namby pamby, wimpy God just doing everything we pray for. HE IS GOD!!! And besides him there is no other!

Numbers 5:11-31
New International Version
The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

you have already admitted it is a belief, i'm not interested in your interpretations or stories. religion is just another tool used to control through fear. in regards to abortion, taking an innocent life is never right

You can choose to believe what you want to believe. I'm not forcing you or anyone. I just believe what I believe... and it works for me.

Besides, FAITH is not about facts it is about belief. Faith, hope and love are not fact based words- These words are asking us to reach into things we cannot tangibly see or feel. You believe your mother loves you or loved you. That is not a fact or can be proven by you, but you see her actions and you believe she loves/loved you.

Faith is not asking us to prove its existence. Quite the opposite, faith asks us to reach out and believe and hope that by doing one thing or the other it will work out. Put your faith in the father and your hope will be restored because he loves you. He only wants to love you, you know? lol... That's all he wants to do!

[TIC]

Well he's not an incompetent grease stain of a Traitor either so there's that

we've lost the plot over last half dozen+ years no doubt. Lost too easily in extremes now if you ask me. No President is your savior.

But when I say turn to God and leave these men alone, people call me an insane Church guy? Turn to God and leave these other gods alone. They can't save you or help you.


I do note, however, that with the removal of prayer from the schools, American kids are more violent, confused, angry and are getting killed on school campuses. The devil has America wound up and it has to get back to Godly principles....

You are getting very preachy since you found god.

I'm telling the truth. Only what I can testify in. I tell you to believe. It works! His name has not been around the centuries because it is/was some scam or it isn't real... HE IS REAL! His word is true. Believe in his son, Jesus Christ and also believe in the Holy Spirit and believe that his messenger Mohammed knew the truth.

how did you prove your belief is real?

It's a belief and I believe he is real. You do not have to subscribe, but for people like me who have been saved and are being saved, we see and experience what we have. I only could tell you what my experience has been and it is all up to you.

but you claimed he is real & i asked how you proved that claim. so are you now conceding that it's only a belief? you can believe whatever you like but when you make claims about something being real then you need to prove that to be true

To me who sees miracles on a daily basis, the people being transformed, lives being turned around and broken hearts mended, only someone other than us can do these things. These things don't happen by magic, but by the Holy Spirit. So you want physical proof and I would say look around you. God is everywhere. Even if you don't want to think it there is something that created this entire planet we are on and just as an ant doesn't know you are a human being, so much more don't we understand the God above and know his presence.

The book asks us to believe. Not see. But believe. Our minds are too small to grasp the magnitude of what God is. We can barely grasp the magnitude of what our spouse/lover is capable of, let alone a higher being.

Just open your mind to belief and be transformed. Read the bible, it is not a bad read if you get past the literal tone of some of the scriptures. lol...

For example, I think we can put this abortion issue to rest because the bible kinda sanctions it. Read the book of Numbers 5: 11-31 and it tells you that the priest induced labour on a woman suspected of infidelity. Kinda blew my mind when I read that, but the Bible is full of truths and gore.

When I read this, my mind ran on some of the things the "old people" from the island would tell you about how they had to give the young girls a thing called "pond bush" to induce labour when they were underage and pregnant. Pond bush is a bush and when you boil it and mix it with water for the most part, you give it to the teenage girl and she would miscarry if she is pregnant. Better than a back alley abortion or a merchant of death in these abortion clinics, to be honest. We are fighting over something God has already spoke about and allowed- this is a dead issue to me now.

Funny thing is why this struck me is because my last law term paper was on abortion and is Roe v Wade the right decision, which I said no it wasn't for legal reasons. But for moral reasons, I see things clearly now. God will never sanction evil and if a woman is unfaithful then evil must be cut out at all costs. He is a rough God when he has to be...and that's what makes him to be feared too. He is not some sissy namby pamby, wimpy God just doing everything we pray for. HE IS GOD!!! And besides him there is no other!

Numbers 5:11-31
New International Version
The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

you have already admitted it is a belief, i'm not interested in your interpretations or stories. religion is just another tool used to control through fear. in regards to abortion, taking an innocent life is never right

You can choose to believe what you want to believe. I'm not forcing you or anyone. I just believe what I believe... and it works for me.

Besides, FAITH is not about facts it is about belief. Faith, hope and love are not fact based words- These words are asking us to reach into things we cannot tangibly see or feel. You believe your mother loves you or loved you. That is not a fact or can be proven by you, but you see her actions and you believe she loves/loved you.

Faith is not asking us to prove its existence. Quite the opposite, faith asks us to reach out and believe and hope that by doing one thing or the other it will work out. Put your faith in the father and your hope will be restored because he loves you. He only wants to love you, you know? lol... That's all he wants to do!

i have no problem with anyone believing anything they like. my problem is when people make claims about something being real in this world & then not being able to prove the claim. you keep believing anything you like ykdadamaja

[ykdadamaja]

Well he's not an incompetent grease stain of a Traitor either so there's that

we've lost the plot over last half dozen+ years no doubt. Lost too easily in extremes now if you ask me. No President is your savior.

But when I say turn to God and leave these men alone, people call me an insane Church guy? Turn to God and leave these other gods alone. They can't save you or help you.


I do note, however, that with the removal of prayer from the schools, American kids are more violent, confused, angry and are getting killed on school campuses. The devil has America wound up and it has to get back to Godly principles....

You are getting very preachy since you found god.

I'm telling the truth. Only what I can testify in. I tell you to believe. It works! His name has not been around the centuries because it is/was some scam or it isn't real... HE IS REAL! His word is true. Believe in his son, Jesus Christ and also believe in the Holy Spirit and believe that his messenger Mohammed knew the truth.

how did you prove your belief is real?

It's a belief and I believe he is real. You do not have to subscribe, but for people like me who have been saved and are being saved, we see and experience what we have. I only could tell you what my experience has been and it is all up to you.

but you claimed he is real & i asked how you proved that claim. so are you now conceding that it's only a belief? you can believe whatever you like but when you make claims about something being real then you need to prove that to be true

To me who sees miracles on a daily basis, the people being transformed, lives being turned around and broken hearts mended, only someone other than us can do these things. These things don't happen by magic, but by the Holy Spirit. So you want physical proof and I would say look around you. God is everywhere. Even if you don't want to think it there is something that created this entire planet we are on and just as an ant doesn't know you are a human being, so much more don't we understand the God above and know his presence.

The book asks us to believe. Not see. But believe. Our minds are too small to grasp the magnitude of what God is. We can barely grasp the magnitude of what our spouse/lover is capable of, let alone a higher being.

Just open your mind to belief and be transformed. Read the bible, it is not a bad read if you get past the literal tone of some of the scriptures. lol...

For example, I think we can put this abortion issue to rest because the bible kinda sanctions it. Read the book of Numbers 5: 11-31 and it tells you that the priest induced labour on a woman suspected of infidelity. Kinda blew my mind when I read that, but the Bible is full of truths and gore.

When I read this, my mind ran on some of the things the "old people" from the island would tell you about how they had to give the young girls a thing called "pond bush" to induce labour when they were underage and pregnant. Pond bush is a bush and when you boil it and mix it with water for the most part, you give it to the teenage girl and she would miscarry if she is pregnant. Better than a back alley abortion or a merchant of death in these abortion clinics, to be honest. We are fighting over something God has already spoke about and allowed- this is a dead issue to me now.

Funny thing is why this struck me is because my last law term paper was on abortion and is Roe v Wade the right decision, which I said no it wasn't for legal reasons. But for moral reasons, I see things clearly now. God will never sanction evil and if a woman is unfaithful then evil must be cut out at all costs. He is a rough God when he has to be...and that's what makes him to be feared too. He is not some sissy namby pamby, wimpy God just doing everything we pray for. HE IS GOD!!! And besides him there is no other!

Numbers 5:11-31
New International Version
The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

you have already admitted it is a belief, i'm not interested in your interpretations or stories. religion is just another tool used to control through fear. in regards to abortion, taking an innocent life is never right

You can choose to believe what you want to believe. I'm not forcing you or anyone. I just believe what I believe... and it works for me.

Besides, FAITH is not about facts it is about belief. Faith, hope and love are not fact based words- These words are asking us to reach into things we cannot tangibly see or feel. You believe your mother loves you or loved you. That is not a fact or can be proven by you, but you see her actions and you believe she loves/loved you.

Faith is not asking us to prove its existence. Quite the opposite, faith asks us to reach out and believe and hope that by doing one thing or the other it will work out. Put your faith in the father and your hope will be restored because he loves you. He only wants to love you, you know? lol... That's all he wants to do!

i have no problem with anyone believing anything they like. my problem is when people make claims about something being real in this world & then not being able to prove the claim. you keep believing anything you like ykdadamaja

The Holy Spirit needs to grab a hold of you one day. hahahahaha.... You have never sat in a church and the pastor "spoke to you" as if he knew exactly what was on your mind and knows what happened to you the night or week before. lolol.... When you "hear" it you will never forget the day he reached his hand out to you... Believe me! I'm praying for you to have that unspeakable joy of the revelation when he opens your mind and calls you to him.

[TIC]

Well he's not an incompetent grease stain of a Traitor either so there's that

we've lost the plot over last half dozen+ years no doubt. Lost too easily in extremes now if you ask me. No President is your savior.

But when I say turn to God and leave these men alone, people call me an insane Church guy? Turn to God and leave these other gods alone. They can't save you or help you.


I do note, however, that with the removal of prayer from the schools, American kids are more violent, confused, angry and are getting killed on school campuses. The devil has America wound up and it has to get back to Godly principles....

You are getting very preachy since you found god.

I'm telling the truth. Only what I can testify in. I tell you to believe. It works! His name has not been around the centuries because it is/was some scam or it isn't real... HE IS REAL! His word is true. Believe in his son, Jesus Christ and also believe in the Holy Spirit and believe that his messenger Mohammed knew the truth.

how did you prove your belief is real?

It's a belief and I believe he is real. You do not have to subscribe, but for people like me who have been saved and are being saved, we see and experience what we have. I only could tell you what my experience has been and it is all up to you.

but you claimed he is real & i asked how you proved that claim. so are you now conceding that it's only a belief? you can believe whatever you like but when you make claims about something being real then you need to prove that to be true

To me who sees miracles on a daily basis, the people being transformed, lives being turned around and broken hearts mended, only someone other than us can do these things. These things don't happen by magic, but by the Holy Spirit. So you want physical proof and I would say look around you. God is everywhere. Even if you don't want to think it there is something that created this entire planet we are on and just as an ant doesn't know you are a human being, so much more don't we understand the God above and know his presence.

The book asks us to believe. Not see. But believe. Our minds are too small to grasp the magnitude of what God is. We can barely grasp the magnitude of what our spouse/lover is capable of, let alone a higher being.

Just open your mind to belief and be transformed. Read the bible, it is not a bad read if you get past the literal tone of some of the scriptures. lol...

For example, I think we can put this abortion issue to rest because the bible kinda sanctions it. Read the book of Numbers 5: 11-31 and it tells you that the priest induced labour on a woman suspected of infidelity. Kinda blew my mind when I read that, but the Bible is full of truths and gore.

When I read this, my mind ran on some of the things the "old people" from the island would tell you about how they had to give the young girls a thing called "pond bush" to induce labour when they were underage and pregnant. Pond bush is a bush and when you boil it and mix it with water for the most part, you give it to the teenage girl and she would miscarry if she is pregnant. Better than a back alley abortion or a merchant of death in these abortion clinics, to be honest. We are fighting over something God has already spoke about and allowed- this is a dead issue to me now.

Funny thing is why this struck me is because my last law term paper was on abortion and is Roe v Wade the right decision, which I said no it wasn't for legal reasons. But for moral reasons, I see things clearly now. God will never sanction evil and if a woman is unfaithful then evil must be cut out at all costs. He is a rough God when he has to be...and that's what makes him to be feared too. He is not some sissy namby pamby, wimpy God just doing everything we pray for. HE IS GOD!!! And besides him there is no other!

Numbers 5:11-31
New International Version
The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

you have already admitted it is a belief, i'm not interested in your interpretations or stories. religion is just another tool used to control through fear. in regards to abortion, taking an innocent life is never right

You can choose to believe what you want to believe. I'm not forcing you or anyone. I just believe what I believe... and it works for me.

Besides, FAITH is not about facts it is about belief. Faith, hope and love are not fact based words- These words are asking us to reach into things we cannot tangibly see or feel. You believe your mother loves you or loved you. That is not a fact or can be proven by you, but you see her actions and you believe she loves/loved you.

Faith is not asking us to prove its existence. Quite the opposite, faith asks us to reach out and believe and hope that by doing one thing or the other it will work out. Put your faith in the father and your hope will be restored because he loves you. He only wants to love you, you know? lol... That's all he wants to do!

i have no problem with anyone believing anything they like. my problem is when people make claims about something being real in this world & then not being able to prove the claim. you keep believing anything you like ykdadamaja

The Holy Spirit needs to grab a hold of you one day. hahahahaha.... You have never sat in a church and the pastor "spoke to you" as if he knew exactly what was on your mind and knows what happened to you the night or week before. lolol.... When you "hear" it you will never forget the day he reached his hand out to you... Believe me! I'm praying for you to have that unspeakable joy of the revelation when he opens your mind and calls you to him.

you enjoy your stories & keep believing. if you can prove your claim is real i will be right here ready & waiting

[ykdadamaja]

Well he's not an incompetent grease stain of a Traitor either so there's that

we've lost the plot over last half dozen+ years no doubt. Lost too easily in extremes now if you ask me. No President is your savior.

But when I say turn to God and leave these men alone, people call me an insane Church guy? Turn to God and leave these other gods alone. They can't save you or help you.


I do note, however, that with the removal of prayer from the schools, American kids are more violent, confused, angry and are getting killed on school campuses. The devil has America wound up and it has to get back to Godly principles....

You are getting very preachy since you found god.

I'm telling the truth. Only what I can testify in. I tell you to believe. It works! His name has not been around the centuries because it is/was some scam or it isn't real... HE IS REAL! His word is true. Believe in his son, Jesus Christ and also believe in the Holy Spirit and believe that his messenger Mohammed knew the truth.

how did you prove your belief is real?

It's a belief and I believe he is real. You do not have to subscribe, but for people like me who have been saved and are being saved, we see and experience what we have. I only could tell you what my experience has been and it is all up to you.

but you claimed he is real & i asked how you proved that claim. so are you now conceding that it's only a belief? you can believe whatever you like but when you make claims about something being real then you need to prove that to be true

To me who sees miracles on a daily basis, the people being transformed, lives being turned around and broken hearts mended, only someone other than us can do these things. These things don't happen by magic, but by the Holy Spirit. So you want physical proof and I would say look around you. God is everywhere. Even if you don't want to think it there is something that created this entire planet we are on and just as an ant doesn't know you are a human being, so much more don't we understand the God above and know his presence.

The book asks us to believe. Not see. But believe. Our minds are too small to grasp the magnitude of what God is. We can barely grasp the magnitude of what our spouse/lover is capable of, let alone a higher being.

Just open your mind to belief and be transformed. Read the bible, it is not a bad read if you get past the literal tone of some of the scriptures. lol...

For example, I think we can put this abortion issue to rest because the bible kinda sanctions it. Read the book of Numbers 5: 11-31 and it tells you that the priest induced labour on a woman suspected of infidelity. Kinda blew my mind when I read that, but the Bible is full of truths and gore.

When I read this, my mind ran on some of the things the "old people" from the island would tell you about how they had to give the young girls a thing called "pond bush" to induce labour when they were underage and pregnant. Pond bush is a bush and when you boil it and mix it with water for the most part, you give it to the teenage girl and she would miscarry if she is pregnant. Better than a back alley abortion or a merchant of death in these abortion clinics, to be honest. We are fighting over something God has already spoke about and allowed- this is a dead issue to me now.

Funny thing is why this struck me is because my last law term paper was on abortion and is Roe v Wade the right decision, which I said no it wasn't for legal reasons. But for moral reasons, I see things clearly now. God will never sanction evil and if a woman is unfaithful then evil must be cut out at all costs. He is a rough God when he has to be...and that's what makes him to be feared too. He is not some sissy namby pamby, wimpy God just doing everything we pray for. HE IS GOD!!! And besides him there is no other!

Numbers 5:11-31
New International Version
The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

you have already admitted it is a belief, i'm not interested in your interpretations or stories. religion is just another tool used to control through fear. in regards to abortion, taking an innocent life is never right

You can choose to believe what you want to believe. I'm not forcing you or anyone. I just believe what I believe... and it works for me.

Besides, FAITH is not about facts it is about belief. Faith, hope and love are not fact based words- These words are asking us to reach into things we cannot tangibly see or feel. You believe your mother loves you or loved you. That is not a fact or can be proven by you, but you see her actions and you believe she loves/loved you.

Faith is not asking us to prove its existence. Quite the opposite, faith asks us to reach out and believe and hope that by doing one thing or the other it will work out. Put your faith in the father and your hope will be restored because he loves you. He only wants to love you, you know? lol... That's all he wants to do!

i have no problem with anyone believing anything they like. my problem is when people make claims about something being real in this world & then not being able to prove the claim. you keep believing anything you like ykdadamaja

The Holy Spirit needs to grab a hold of you one day. hahahahaha.... You have never sat in a church and the pastor "spoke to you" as if he knew exactly what was on your mind and knows what happened to you the night or week before. lolol.... When you "hear" it you will never forget the day he reached his hand out to you... Believe me! I'm praying for you to have that unspeakable joy of the revelation when he opens your mind and calls you to him.

you enjoy your stories & keep believing. if you can prove your claim is real i will be right here ready & waiting

You fool. lol.... When was the last time you went inside a church and listened to the message? Maybe that's what you need to do. Forget about the things you call fairy tales and listen to the word/message. Since you don't believe it won't hurt you... I can see you genuinely have no malice, you just lack faith and the ability to believe what you can't see or feel.

[TIC]

last time in a church was as a young child about five or six. why do you think i need to do that? morally i already think i am ahead of you as i don't condone the killing of innocent lives. listening to someone else's beliefs without them being able to prove them true would hurt me. it means i'd just have to believe & trust what someone else is telling me is true, instead of them proving it true. why would i have malice towards you for your beliefs? that would be unreasonable. i only have an issue with you claiming that he is real & then not being able to prove that, then clearly stating it's only a belief & still trying to force your belief on others as being real. if you are going to continue this way then i am going to have to push you for proof because i am not interested in your beliefs, only what you can prove to be true

[ykdadamaja]

last time in a church was as a young child about five or six. why do you think i need to do that? morally i already think i am ahead of you as i don't condone the killing of innocent lives. listening to someone else's beliefs without them being able to prove them true would hurt me. it means i'd just have to believe & trust what someone else is telling me is true, instead of them proving it true. why would i have malice towards you for your beliefs? that would be unreasonable. i only have an issue with you claiming that he is real & then not being able to prove that, then clearly stating it's only a belief & still trying to force your belief on others as being real. if you are going to continue this way then i am going to have to push you for proof because i am not interested in your beliefs, only what you can prove to be true

You are so smart and wise.

[zoley]

Biden is the incompetent isn't he? is thread title

[ykdadamaja]

Biden is the incompetent isn't he? is thread title

He sure is. But like so many other threads we get away from what we came to talk about.

[TIC]

last time in a church was as a young child about five or six. why do you think i need to do that? morally i already think i am ahead of you as i don't condone the killing of innocent lives. listening to someone else's beliefs without them being able to prove them true would hurt me. it means i'd just have to believe & trust what someone else is telling me is true, instead of them proving it true. why would i have malice towards you for your beliefs? that would be unreasonable. i only have an issue with you claiming that he is real & then not being able to prove that, then clearly stating it's only a belief & still trying to force your belief on others as being real. if you are going to continue this way then i am going to have to push you for proof because i am not interested in your beliefs, only what you can prove to be true

You are so smart and wise.

i'll be here when you want to talk about reality & not beliefs

[TIC]

Biden is the incompetent isn't he? is thread title

no the title of the thread is Biden is incompetent isn't he?

[Kirkland Laing]

Let's admit it, Joe Biden is incomptent compared to Donald Trump. I mean, shit got worse in America.

The media kept on harping on about stupid shit like Stormy Daniels and Russia-hoax and they fucked around and got what they wanted, Trump out and Biden in and now they don't like what they are getting?

Lackadaisical leadership that is asleep at the wheel.... For fucks sake, Biden let a whole fucking war happen in Russia and the Ukraine, the latter he was supposed to be helping? I think I told this board some time back that when Biden won there will be a "War" in the Ukraine and the US would "have" to go in to sort it out. In the meantime, Ukrainians are dying and the world is in chaos.

Don't let me get started on high inflation and high oil prices. Trump never did us this.

Admit it, shut your shit about Trump. He was not incompetent like this Biden is. Biden is gonna fuck around and get us all killed.

How is Joe Biden responsible for Russia invading Ukraine? How is Biden responsible for inflation exactly? Inflation in the world's top 38 economies is averaging 8.8%, in America it's currently 8.3%. Is Biden responsible for the inflation in all these economies? How so exactly? Similarly oil prices. How is Biden responsible for the price of oil? How would a competent American president have prevented inflation and the increase in the oil price?

[Kirkland Laing]

Well he's not an incompetent grease stain of a Traitor either so there's that

we've lost the plot over last half dozen+ years no doubt. Lost too easily in extremes now if you ask me. No President is your savior.

But when I say turn to God and leave these men alone, people call me an insane Church guy? Turn to God and leave these other gods alone. They can't save you or help you.


I do note, however, that with the removal of prayer from the schools, American kids are more violent, confused, angry and are getting killed on school campuses. The devil has America wound up and it has to get back to Godly principles....

b3Uuv-which-orle-does-religion-play-in-your-life-.jpg

In all of the countries on this chart apart from America there have been zero (0) school shootings in the last ten years. Add on every EU country not on the list, nearly thirty, and the number is still zero in the last ten years. None of these forty odd countries have school prayers. In America, a significantly more religious country than these other forty odd countries, there have been nine hundred and fifty school shootings in the last ten years.

Maybe religion has nothing to do with it and it's something else?

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1529910935225258001

[Kirkland Laing]

Well he's not an incompetent grease stain of a Traitor either so there's that

we've lost the plot over last half dozen+ years no doubt. Lost too easily in extremes now if you ask me. No President is your savior.

A couple of things that have got my attention recently:

https://twitter.com/arpitrage/status...12154003476481

This is the fault of every single entity involved from public bodies to business to contractors to unions. Parts of the US economy are becoming significant problems.

Secondly:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/gunman-k...e-next-report/

The system of government is coming apart too. This is the most immediate problem. And the biggest terrorists are currently working to legally turn the country from a democracy into a soft autocracy where only one party can govern. I honestly don't know what Biden or anybody else in the non fascist party/side can do about it either. It seems to have an unstoppable momentum. It's not much better elsewhere either. France and Italy look set to actually elect fascist-y governments sooner rather than later. Getting closer every election.