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    Default Re: Another example of WBC incompetence/corruption

    So true had it been the other way around,...the WBC would've ripped that belt from McWilliams Arroyo faster than an Israeli swimming down the Suez Canal.

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    Default Re: Another example of WBC incompetence/corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Mauricio Sulaiman is delighted at the amount of huge fights boxing fans have witnessed in 2022.

    The sport is finally bouncing back following the global pandemic and this year alone, boxing has witnessed three undisputed champions crowned as well as seven unifications.

    The trio to win all four major belts in 2022 are Devin Haney, Jermall Charlo and Franchon Crews-Dezurn.

    Fighters to have unified their respective divisions include 'Monster' Naoya Inoue at bantamweight, Errol Spence Jr at welterweight and Artur Beterbiev at light heavyweight.

    Sulaiman - the WBC president, who ranks Canelo as the number one fighter in the world - admits the sport is going through a golden era of incredible fights and events all around the world without realising (it).

    "Well, yeah, we're going through a golden era of boxing without knowing it. If you look at last year was a tremendous year of boxing," Sulaiman exclusively told Planet Sport.

    "If you look at these first six months, what we have seen is unbelievable - 94,000 at Wembley (Fury vs Whyte), Dallas Cowboys Stadium 50,000 (Spence vs Ugas), 40,000 plus in Australia (Haney vs Kambosos Jr).

    "Japan two sellout crowds of over 20,000 with Gennadiy Golovkin (against Ryota Murata) and Inoue (vs Nonito Donaire). Madison Square Garden - an unbelievable fight with Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano.

    "Everything is happening all over the world. The pound-for-pound list is big trouble to (decide). "Out of the 10 (fighters), you are leaving even many fighters out so this is a great time for boxing. "We need promoters we need platforms we need organisations to work and keep it going, not ruin it. We cannot burst that bubble we have to continue building it," Sulaiman added.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...id=msedgntphdr


    Glad Mauricio is so enthusiastic about boxing.

    He says "We need promoters we need platforms we need organisations to work and keep it going, not ruin it."

    What we actually need are reforms that will make boxing more attractive to real fans, not just the casuals.

    We need less artificial, made-up belts (less useless trinkets)... more oversight and accountability on judging... easier pathways for promoters to pit the best against the best (at the right time... not years past the expiration date)... etc, etc.

    The p4p list is not only "big trouble to decide." Nowadays it's worthless. Too much favoritism goes into deciding it.

    p4p was well-intentioned at one point. If you take it at its face value and definition, it's a common denominator type of comparison... where weight is not a differentiator.

    But the way it's used by different publications, it's a joke.
    to be fair it hasn't been a year since el ray & mcwilliams last fought. tyson says he's retired, shouldn't the title be vacated? pound for pound has never been anything meaningful, just a concept. canelo still holding a franchise title at one sixty & having not fought at that weight in over three years is crazy. el gallo hasn't fought in over a year & still holds a franchise title at one fifteen
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    The fact is GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career. Post #87, 5th August 2022
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    Default Re: Another example of WBC incompetence/corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Mauricio Sulaiman is delighted at the amount of huge fights boxing fans have witnessed in 2022.

    The sport is finally bouncing back following the global pandemic and this year alone, boxing has witnessed three undisputed champions crowned as well as seven unifications.

    The trio to win all four major belts in 2022 are Devin Haney, Jermall Charlo and Franchon Crews-Dezurn.

    Fighters to have unified their respective divisions include 'Monster' Naoya Inoue at bantamweight, Errol Spence Jr at welterweight and Artur Beterbiev at light heavyweight.

    Sulaiman - the WBC president, who ranks Canelo as the number one fighter in the world - admits the sport is going through a golden era of incredible fights and events all around the world without realising (it).

    "Well, yeah, we're going through a golden era of boxing without knowing it. If you look at last year was a tremendous year of boxing," Sulaiman exclusively told Planet Sport.

    "If you look at these first six months, what we have seen is unbelievable - 94,000 at Wembley (Fury vs Whyte), Dallas Cowboys Stadium 50,000 (Spence vs Ugas), 40,000 plus in Australia (Haney vs Kambosos Jr).

    "Japan two sellout crowds of over 20,000 with Gennadiy Golovkin (against Ryota Murata) and Inoue (vs Nonito Donaire). Madison Square Garden - an unbelievable fight with Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano.

    "Everything is happening all over the world. The pound-for-pound list is big trouble to (decide). "Out of the 10 (fighters), you are leaving even many fighters out so this is a great time for boxing. "We need promoters we need platforms we need organisations to work and keep it going, not ruin it. We cannot burst that bubble we have to continue building it," Sulaiman added.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...id=msedgntphdr


    Glad Mauricio is so enthusiastic about boxing.

    He says "We need promoters we need platforms we need organisations to work and keep it going, not ruin it."

    What we actually need are reforms that will make boxing more attractive to real fans, not just the casuals.

    We need less artificial, made-up belts (less useless trinkets)... more oversight and accountability on judging... easier pathways for promoters to pit the best against the best (at the right time... not years past the expiration date)... etc, etc.

    The p4p list is not only "big trouble to decide." Nowadays it's worthless. Too much favoritism goes into deciding it.

    p4p was well-intentioned at one point. If you take it at its face value and definition, it's a common denominator type of comparison... where weight is not a differentiator.

    But the way it's used by different publications, it's a joke.
    to be fair it hasn't been a year since el ray & mcwilliams last fought. tyson says he's retired, shouldn't the title be vacated? pound for pound has never been anything meaningful, just a concept. canelo still holding a franchise title at one sixty & having not fought at that weight in over three years is crazy. el gallo hasn't fought in over a year & still holds a franchise title at one fifteen

    He's pulled out three times. Had it been the other way around, McWilliams would've been stripped long ago.

    Tyson retires more often than some people change their shorts. Nobody takes him seriously anymore.

    P4P could be meaningful if people actually used it as it was intended and left blatant favoritism out of it.

    What's a joke are these "Franchise" titles. Just like Tyson's many "retirements", nobody takes them seriously.

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    Default Re: Another example of WBC incompetence/corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Mauricio Sulaiman is delighted at the amount of huge fights boxing fans have witnessed in 2022.

    The sport is finally bouncing back following the global pandemic and this year alone, boxing has witnessed three undisputed champions crowned as well as seven unifications.

    The trio to win all four major belts in 2022 are Devin Haney, Jermall Charlo and Franchon Crews-Dezurn.

    Fighters to have unified their respective divisions include 'Monster' Naoya Inoue at bantamweight, Errol Spence Jr at welterweight and Artur Beterbiev at light heavyweight.

    Sulaiman - the WBC president, who ranks Canelo as the number one fighter in the world - admits the sport is going through a golden era of incredible fights and events all around the world without realising (it).

    "Well, yeah, we're going through a golden era of boxing without knowing it. If you look at last year was a tremendous year of boxing," Sulaiman exclusively told Planet Sport.

    "If you look at these first six months, what we have seen is unbelievable - 94,000 at Wembley (Fury vs Whyte), Dallas Cowboys Stadium 50,000 (Spence vs Ugas), 40,000 plus in Australia (Haney vs Kambosos Jr).

    "Japan two sellout crowds of over 20,000 with Gennadiy Golovkin (against Ryota Murata) and Inoue (vs Nonito Donaire). Madison Square Garden - an unbelievable fight with Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano.

    "Everything is happening all over the world. The pound-for-pound list is big trouble to (decide). "Out of the 10 (fighters), you are leaving even many fighters out so this is a great time for boxing. "We need promoters we need platforms we need organisations to work and keep it going, not ruin it. We cannot burst that bubble we have to continue building it," Sulaiman added.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...id=msedgntphdr


    Glad Mauricio is so enthusiastic about boxing.

    He says "We need promoters we need platforms we need organisations to work and keep it going, not ruin it."

    What we actually need are reforms that will make boxing more attractive to real fans, not just the casuals.

    We need less artificial, made-up belts (less useless trinkets)... more oversight and accountability on judging... easier pathways for promoters to pit the best against the best (at the right time... not years past the expiration date)... etc, etc.

    The p4p list is not only "big trouble to decide." Nowadays it's worthless. Too much favoritism goes into deciding it.

    p4p was well-intentioned at one point. If you take it at its face value and definition, it's a common denominator type of comparison... where weight is not a differentiator.

    But the way it's used by different publications, it's a joke.
    to be fair it hasn't been a year since el ray & mcwilliams last fought. tyson says he's retired, shouldn't the title be vacated? pound for pound has never been anything meaningful, just a concept. canelo still holding a franchise title at one sixty & having not fought at that weight in over three years is crazy. el gallo hasn't fought in over a year & still holds a franchise title at one fifteen

    He's pulled out three times. Had it been the other way around, McWilliams would've been stripped long ago.

    Tyson retires more often than some people change their shorts. Nobody takes him seriously anymore.

    P4P could be meaningful if people actually used it as it was intended and left blatant favoritism out of it.

    What's a joke are these "Franchise" titles. Just like Tyson's many "retirements", nobody takes them seriously.
    el rey may have pulled out three times & it is disappointing but it is still within a year of their last fight. i'm not sure i agree that mcwilliams would have been stripped if it had been the other way around. gary russell jr was allowed almost two years before his last defense. tyson can talk all the shit he wants but the sanctioning bodies should be enforcing things. tyson only fought in april so i'm good but if that's my sanctioning body i'm confirming if you are retired or not. if you are retired then the belt is vacant, if you are not then i'd have a mandatory in place. trouble is they still have deontay at number one. pound for pound can never be meaningful because it is mythical & subjective, only a concept, not a reality. franchise titles are as much of a joke as wba regular titles
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    The fact is GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career. Post #87, 5th August 2022
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    GGG weighed 163 for the Rolls fight. Post #91, 6th August 2022

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    Default Re: Another example of WBC incompetence/corruption

    I'm more interested on how Part-time Thurman gets elevated to #1 with just 1 win over the last three and a half years. Guess that Crawford v Spence is going to have to wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    I'm more interested on how Part-time Thurman gets elevated to #1 with just 1 win over the last three and a half years. Guess that Crawford v Spence is going to have to wait
    didn't eimantas step aside to allow errol v yordenis? he should be first in line. danny garcia jumped to five at one fifty four in the wbc without having fought there
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Another example of WBC incompetence/corruption

    If Jake Paul beats Rahman he will be ranked to face Makabu for WBC title according to Mauricio Sulaiman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    If Jake Paul beats Rahman he will be ranked to face Makabu for WBC title according to Mauricio Sulaiman.
    that's a good one
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: Another example of WBC incompetence/corruption

    Didn't know if it was possible for a sanctioning body gaggle to sink so low in credibility within a few days. Literally guaranteeing and selling rank social media style.

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    sergio maravilla martinez at number five middleweight for wba is pretty bad
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    If Jake Paul beats Rahman he will be ranked to face Makabu for WBC title according to Mauricio Sulaiman.

    Nothing surprises me from the World's Biggest Crock, headed by the Sulaiman Family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    If Jake Paul beats Rahman he will be ranked to face Makabu for WBC title according to Mauricio Sulaiman.

    Nothing surprises me from the World's Biggest Crock, headed by the Sulaiman Family.
    We Be Crooks sounds better.
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    Default Re: Another example of WBC incompetence/corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    If Jake Paul beats Rahman he will be ranked to face Makabu for WBC title according to Mauricio Sulaiman.

    Nothing surprises me from the World's Biggest Crock, headed by the Sulaiman Family.
    We Be Crooks sounds better.

    True that.

    I also feel We Blow Canelo is super descriptive.

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    Default Re: Another example of WBC incompetence/corruption

    i heard the wbc are axing the franchise title
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    The fact is GGG has fought at 160 for his entire career. Post #87, 5th August 2022
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    Default Re: Another example of WBC incompetence/corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    i heard the wbc are axing the franchise title

    One would hope they'd see the error of their ways and correct them. Good on them if they do.

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