AJ is a disgrace to the sport!

[Beanz]

You want a real disgrace to the sport here you go- https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxi...er-boxing-news

I thought Fury was going to fight free for the fans?

He is full of shit and always has been. It is mental the delusions people convince themselves of.

Look at this from frickin Wilder of all people (:

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Wilder is the last person to criticise AJ after all his own mental breakdowns and excuses he has had. Pot calling the kettle black. How short is his memory?

Crazy stuff. Wilder also thinks Usyk has 'stamina problems'. This from the guy whose outfit was so heavy he gassed out on his way to the ring.

Ha!

[Primo Carnera]

"... It's some foreigner who nobody really cares about and that's it. I don't mind chucking a dog a bone, but I don't want to chuck him the whole dog's home. If they want me to fight this unknown quantity and give him an opportunity of legendary status, then they've got to pay for that. They've got a week, it's August 24 today."

What a way to talk about Usyk and bottle job it at the same time.

See, now some people would have it that AJ “is a disgrace to the sport” yet those same people won’t highlight anything about the above statement. Now this guy truly is becoming a disgrace.
I really don’t know where to start, disrespect, borderline racism, delusion, hypocrisy, out of touch with society all wrapped into 1 pathetic specimen.
I hope he stays retired, fucking clown.

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I like AJ. He looks like he trained extremely hard and truly felt he would be victorious so I can see him being frustrated, exhausted, emotional, and then having the additional impact of career ramifications. Losing a tough fight like that in front of millions is hard enough, but add the financial implications and it likely makes you feel a little hopeless and scared. I wish he had handled it better, but I’m sure that today AJ wishes that he had handled it better way more than anyone else.

I would like to see AJ take on a couple of easy fights before moving into a Wilder super fight. Heavyweight is kind of thin right now to me, so not sure how many interesting fights remain for him. I would pay big money to watch him fight Wilder.

Joshua should target Daniel Dubois.

A Dubois fight comes with a cereal packet trinket and if he wins, it gets him in pole position for a title shot.

I am not sure how good Dubois actually is, but he's certainly not a pushover, he can crack and he's British too, so it would do good numbers.

It also has a torch passing element as in Dubois is the young up and comer and Joshua is the old stager trying to get back to the top.

[TitoFan]

"... It's some foreigner who nobody really cares about and that's it. I don't mind chucking a dog a bone, but I don't want to chuck him the whole dog's home. If they want me to fight this unknown quantity and give him an opportunity of legendary status, then they've got to pay for that. They've got a week, it's August 24 today."

What a way to talk about Usyk and bottle job it at the same time.

See, now some people would have it that AJ “is a disgrace to the sport” yet those same people won’t highlight anything about the above statement. Now this guy truly is becoming a disgrace.
I really don’t know where to start, disrespect, borderline racism, delusion, hypocrisy, out of touch with society all wrapped into 1 pathetic specimen.
I hope he stays retired, fucking clown.

Three things I like about Fury (and only three things):

1. He ended Wlad's reign as "Most Boring Heavyweight Boxer in History" (albeit admittedly by beating him in "The Worst and Most Boring Heavyweight Title Fight in History").

2. He stepped up to the mic when Joshua and Wilder were engaged in "The Most Frustratingly Soap-Opera-Like Useless Negotiations for a Heavyweight Title Fight in History."

3. He brought Wilder down from that artificially made perch and down to Earth.


Beyond that, yes... he IS a "fucking clown."

[Dark Lord Al]

"... It's some foreigner who nobody really cares about and that's it. I don't mind chucking a dog a bone, but I don't want to chuck him the whole dog's home. If they want me to fight this unknown quantity and give him an opportunity of legendary status, then they've got to pay for that. They've got a week, it's August 24 today."

What a way to talk about Usyk and bottle job it at the same time.

See, now some people would have it that AJ “is a disgrace to the sport” yet those same people won’t highlight anything about the above statement. Now this guy truly is becoming a disgrace.
I really don’t know where to start, disrespect, borderline racism, delusion, hypocrisy, out of touch with society all wrapped into 1 pathetic specimen.
I hope he stays retired, fucking clown.

Disrespect yes, badmouthing yes, RACISM? Fury is white Usyk is white. They are the same race.

[TitoFan]

Maybe he meant xenophobic.

TBH, I think xenophobia is just as bad as racism.

[Master]

I like AJ. He looks like he trained extremely hard and truly felt he would be victorious so I can see him being frustrated, exhausted, emotional, and then having the additional impact of career ramifications. Losing a tough fight like that in front of millions is hard enough, but add the financial implications and it likely makes you feel a little hopeless and scared. I wish he had handled it better, but I’m sure that today AJ wishes that he had handled it better way more than anyone else.

I would like to see AJ take on a couple of easy fights before moving into a Wilder super fight. Heavyweight is kind of thin right now to me, so not sure how many interesting fights remain for him. I would pay big money to watch him fight Wilder.

Joshua should target Daniel Dubois.

A Dubois fight comes with a cereal packet trinket and if he wins, it gets him in pole position for a title shot.

I am not sure how good Dubois actually is, but he's certainly not a pushover, he can crack and he's British too, so it would do good numbers.

It also has a torch passing element as in Dubois is the young up and comer and Joshua is the old stager trying to get back to the top.

Triple D can still be dangerous for a gun shy AJ. Better stick with Chisora first or even Hughie Fury.

[east end bob]

I love how you lot have gone graveyard silent on Anthony Joshua's disgraceful behaviour. Very championship like for him. Tyson Fury was never wrong on these Dosser's and posers.

The difference between AJ and Fury is that Fury knows he ain't shit but tries to be a bit better every day, it's a fight through Christ who saves. AJ tried to hide he ain't shit but when the pressure is on him, he bitches out like the little bitch he is!

Shit, even Wilder took his ass kicking from Fury like a man.

AJ is pretty much finished. 3 losses of his last 4 fights is it? But its not just the losses, as any fighter can rebound, but he doesn't have that killer instinct needed. His body shots were very effective, but he just doesn't go for the fucking kill. That KO by Andy really spooked him, he will not let it all hang out and go for a knockout due to that. But a huge huge guy like AJ should really capitalize on his strength and monster size. He fights like a cat now. Not aggressive enough except for that 9th round where he really did shine --- briefly. I don't know how marketable he is now. He is tarnished. He is boring and NOW, he has proven a childish, mentally unstable juvenile. For a moment it looked he would "pull a Tyson" there, I thought when he reversed course from heading to the dressing room that he was going back in to bite Usyk's ear or something. Did you hear what he first said to Usyk when he returned to the ring? He said something like "Boxing takes skills, man, boxing takes skills, you need skills to win, I have skills, so how did you beat me? How did you beat me?" What a cry baby/arrogant or whatever. Then when on the microphone he tried to spin it and say CHAMP CHAMP CHAMP, but it was too late.

It was an ok fight. For me Usyk won 9/3. Anthony Joshua is rather static and found Usyk's movement and footwork too much. I felt that Robert Garcia played it wrong by telling AJ that he was winning, clearly he wasn't. The antics at the end are a result of Joshua being built up to be something that he is not. I blame the egocentric Eddie Hearn whose father Barry had it spot on at 8/4 Usyk. He also said that he would be embarassed if Joshua got the decision. It doesn't make Joshua a bad fighter, he just isn't elite.

[Primo Carnera]

"... It's some foreigner who nobody really cares about and that's it. I don't mind chucking a dog a bone, but I don't want to chuck him the whole dog's home. If they want me to fight this unknown quantity and give him an opportunity of legendary status, then they've got to pay for that. They've got a week, it's August 24 today."

What a way to talk about Usyk and bottle job it at the same time.

See, now some people would have it that AJ “is a disgrace to the sport” yet those same people won’t highlight anything about the above statement. Now this guy truly is becoming a disgrace.
I really don’t know where to start, disrespect, borderline racism, delusion, hypocrisy, out of touch with society all wrapped into 1 pathetic specimen.
I hope he stays retired, fucking clown.

[I][B]Disrespect yes, badmouthing yes, RACISM? Fury is white Usyk is white. They are the same race.

Now you can copy and paste a ton of different dictionary meanings saying Race is solely about colour and I will dispute it.
1. Joe Marler heavily criticised for racism because he called his traveller welsh opponent “Gypsy boy” yet they’re both white!

“It found Marler had used “unsporting and discriminatory language towards Lee” and he had, by his actions, “breached World Rugby Regulation 20 (which covers statements that are unsporting, insulting and/or discriminatory by reason of race or ethnic origin) and the code of conduct and brought the game into disrepute”.


2. Hispanic and Mexican people always talk about “la razza” - the race. Their own people.
3. What would you call the constant baiting of Germans every single time England draw them in a World Cup, with Sun headlines of a German Manager with a German helmet on and a headline of “for you Fritz, ze war is over!”
4. So a black guy can taunt and Indian guy, (or Vice versa) calling each other P**I or N***er and it’s not racist because they’re the same colour.
I could go on.
Basically Al, and I’m not having a dig at you personally , but if most people think like this, and it is highly possible that they do, racism is never going to go away.
RACE ISN’T JUST ABOUT THE COLOUR OF YOUR SKIN.
Nothing personal mate.

[Dark Lord Al]

"... It's some foreigner who nobody really cares about and that's it. I don't mind chucking a dog a bone, but I don't want to chuck him the whole dog's home. If they want me to fight this unknown quantity and give him an opportunity of legendary status, then they've got to pay for that. They've got a week, it's August 24 today."

What a way to talk about Usyk and bottle job it at the same time.

See, now some people would have it that AJ “is a disgrace to the sport” yet those same people won’t highlight anything about the above statement. Now this guy truly is becoming a disgrace.
I really don’t know where to start, disrespect, borderline racism, delusion, hypocrisy, out of touch with society all wrapped into 1 pathetic specimen.
I hope he stays retired, fucking clown.

[I][B]Disrespect yes, badmouthing yes, RACISM? Fury is white Usyk is white. They are the same race.

Now you can copy and paste a ton of different dictionary meanings saying Race is solely about colour and I will dispute it.
1. Joe Marler heavily criticised for racism because he called his traveller welsh opponent “Gypsy boy” yet they’re both white!

“It found Marler had used “unsporting and discriminatory language towards Lee” and he had, by his actions, “breached World Rugby Regulation 20 (which covers statements that are unsporting, insulting and/or discriminatory by reason of race or ethnic origin) and the code of conduct and brought the game into disrepute”.


2. Hispanic and Mexican people always talk about “la razza” - the race. Their own people.
3. What would you call the constant baiting of Germans every single time England draw them in a World Cup, with Sun headlines of a German Manager with a German helmet on and a headline of “for you Fritz, ze war is over!”
4. So a black guy can taunt and Indian guy, (or Vice versa) calling each other P**I or N***er and it’s not racist because they’re the same colour.
I could go on.
Basically Al, and I’m not having a dig at you personally , but if most people think like this, and it is highly possible that they do, racism is never going to go away.
RACE ISN’T JUST ABOUT THE COLOUR OF YOUR SKIN.
Nothing personal mate.

I am afraid race is about race, a white male cannot be racist towards another white male. He may dislike him personally or may not like the location the other white male lives.
It in my opinion it is not racist based on the fact it isn't racist.
Also, for the record a black African male is not the same race as an Indian male, even though they both have darker skin than a Caucasian.
So, if a black male called an Indian male derogatory words, it would be racist, based also on the fact they are not the same race.

[Primo Carnera]

I like AJ. He looks like he trained extremely hard and truly felt he would be victorious so I can see him being frustrated, exhausted, emotional, and then having the additional impact of career ramifications. Losing a tough fight like that in front of millions is hard enough, but add the financial implications and it likely makes you feel a little hopeless and scared. I wish he had handled it better, but I’m sure that today AJ wishes that he had handled it better way more than anyone else.

I would like to see AJ take on a couple of easy fights before moving into a Wilder super fight. Heavyweight is kind of thin right now to me, so not sure how many interesting fights remain for him. I would pay big money to watch him fight Wilder.

Joshua should target Daniel Dubois.

A Dubois fight comes with a cereal packet trinket and if he wins, it gets him in pole position for a title shot.

I am not sure how good Dubois actually is, but he's certainly not a pushover, he can crack and he's British too, so it would do good numbers.

It also has a torch passing element as in Dubois is the young up and comer and Joshua is the old stager trying to get back to the top.

Triple D can still be dangerous for a gun shy AJ. Better stick with Chisora first or even Hughie Fury.

I can’t believe what I’m reading here. Is this the same Dubois that made Joe Joyce look like the reincarnation of Larry Holmes constantly jabbing Dubois’ head off!
The lack of respect for Joshua here is startling! This country really knows how to turn it’s back on it’s heroes. Dear oh dear.

[Master]

I like AJ. He looks like he trained extremely hard and truly felt he would be victorious so I can see him being frustrated, exhausted, emotional, and then having the additional impact of career ramifications. Losing a tough fight like that in front of millions is hard enough, but add the financial implications and it likely makes you feel a little hopeless and scared. I wish he had handled it better, but I’m sure that today AJ wishes that he had handled it better way more than anyone else.

I would like to see AJ take on a couple of easy fights before moving into a Wilder super fight. Heavyweight is kind of thin right now to me, so not sure how many interesting fights remain for him. I would pay big money to watch him fight Wilder.

Joshua should target Daniel Dubois.

A Dubois fight comes with a cereal packet trinket and if he wins, it gets him in pole position for a title shot.

I am not sure how good Dubois actually is, but he's certainly not a pushover, he can crack and he's British too, so it would do good numbers.

It also has a torch passing element as in Dubois is the young up and comer and Joshua is the old stager trying to get back to the top.

Triple D can still be dangerous for a gun shy AJ. Better stick with Chisora first or even Hughie Fury.

I can’t believe what I’m reading here. Is this the same Dubois that made Joe Joyce look like the reincarnation of Larry Holmes constantly jabbing Dubois’ head off!
The lack of respect for Joshua here is startling! This country really knows how to turn it’s back on it’s heroes. Dear oh dear.

I was trying to be in Eddie's head and his take on the opponent.

[Primo Carnera]

"... It's some foreigner who nobody really cares about and that's it. I don't mind chucking a dog a bone, but I don't want to chuck him the whole dog's home. If they want me to fight this unknown quantity and give him an opportunity of legendary status, then they've got to pay for that. They've got a week, it's August 24 today."

What a way to talk about Usyk and bottle job it at the same time.

See, now some people would have it that AJ “is a disgrace to the sport” yet those same people won’t highlight anything about the above statement. Now this guy truly is becoming a disgrace.
I really don’t know where to start, disrespect, borderline racism, delusion, hypocrisy, out of touch with society all wrapped into 1 pathetic specimen.
I hope he stays retired, fucking clown.

[I][B]Disrespect yes, badmouthing yes, RACISM? Fury is white Usyk is white. They are the same race.

Now you can copy and paste a ton of different dictionary meanings saying Race is solely about colour and I will dispute it.
1. Joe Marler heavily criticised for racism because he called his traveller welsh opponent “Gypsy boy” yet they’re both white!

“It found Marler had used “unsporting and discriminatory language towards Lee” and he had, by his actions, “breached World Rugby Regulation 20 (which covers statements that are unsporting, insulting and/or discriminatory by reason of race or ethnic origin) and the code of conduct and brought the game into disrepute”.


2. Hispanic and Mexican people always talk about “la razza” - the race. Their own people.
3. What would you call the constant baiting of Germans every single time England draw them in a World Cup, with Sun headlines of a German Manager with a German helmet on and a headline of “for you Fritz, ze war is over!”
4. So a black guy can taunt and Indian guy, (or Vice versa) calling each other P**I or N***er and it’s not racist because they’re the same colour.
I could go on.
Basically Al, and I’m not having a dig at you personally , but if most people think like this, and it is highly possible that they do, racism is never going to go away.
RACE ISN’T JUST ABOUT THE COLOUR OF YOUR SKIN.
Nothing personal mate.

I am afraid race is about race, a white male cannot be racist towards another white male. He may dislike him personally or may not like the location the other white male lives.
It in my opinion it is not racist based on the fact it isn't racist.
Also, for the record a black African male is not the same race as an Indian male, even though they both have darker skin than a Caucasian.
So, if a black male called an Indian male derogatory words, it would be racist, based also on the fact they are not the same race.

But your original point was that Fury and Usyk are both the same colour , so they are both the same race.
Gonna have to agree to disagree because in my opinion, Race isn’t just about colour.
And I think that white people can definitely show racism to other White People.
If you called me a dago , wop, itie, would that not be racist ? If it’s not racist what is it?

[Beanz]

"... It's some foreigner who nobody really cares about and that's it. I don't mind chucking a dog a bone, but I don't want to chuck him the whole dog's home. If they want me to fight this unknown quantity and give him an opportunity of legendary status, then they've got to pay for that. They've got a week, it's August 24 today."

What a way to talk about Usyk and bottle job it at the same time.

See, now some people would have it that AJ “is a disgrace to the sport” yet those same people won’t highlight anything about the above statement. Now this guy truly is becoming a disgrace.
I really don’t know where to start, disrespect, borderline racism, delusion, hypocrisy, out of touch with society all wrapped into 1 pathetic specimen.
I hope he stays retired, fucking clown.

[I][B]Disrespect yes, badmouthing yes, RACISM? Fury is white Usyk is white. They are the same race.

Now you can copy and paste a ton of different dictionary meanings saying Race is solely about colour and I will dispute it.
1. Joe Marler heavily criticised for racism because he called his traveller welsh opponent “Gypsy boy” yet they’re both white!

“It found Marler had used “unsporting and discriminatory language towards Lee” and he had, by his actions, “breached World Rugby Regulation 20 (which covers statements that are unsporting, insulting and/or discriminatory by reason of race or ethnic origin) and the code of conduct and brought the game into disrepute”.


2. Hispanic and Mexican people always talk about “la razza” - the race. Their own people.
3. What would you call the constant baiting of Germans every single time England draw them in a World Cup, with Sun headlines of a German Manager with a German helmet on and a headline of “for you Fritz, ze war is over!”
4. So a black guy can taunt and Indian guy, (or Vice versa) calling each other P**I or N***er and it’s not racist because they’re the same colour.
I could go on.
Basically Al, and I’m not having a dig at you personally , but if most people think like this, and it is highly possible that they do, racism is never going to go away.
RACE ISN’T JUST ABOUT THE COLOUR OF YOUR SKIN.
Nothing personal mate.

I am afraid race is about race, a white male cannot be racist towards another white male. He may dislike him personally or may not like the location the other white male lives.
It in my opinion it is not racist based on the fact it isn't racist.
Also, for the record a black African male is not the same race as an Indian male, even though they both have darker skin than a Caucasian.
So, if a black male called an Indian male derogatory words, it would be racist, based also on the fact they are not the same race.

But your original point was that Fury and Usyk are both the same colour , so they are both the same race.
Gonna have to agree to disagree because in my opinion, Race isn’t just about colour.
And I think that white people can definitely show racism to other White People.
If you called me a dago , wop, itie, would that not be racist ? If it’s not racist what is it?

The idea of races is an entirely social construct. We all share 99.9% of our genes and are to all intents and purposes if anything 'mixed race'. Xenophobia is just as daft. Imagine thinking that the random accidnet of where you were born meant you thought you were superior to someone born somewhere else.

The idea of such a thing as casucasian has long been disproven. Just ignorance.

[ykdadamaja]

I love how you lot have gone graveyard silent on Anthony Joshua's disgraceful behaviour. Very championship like for him. Tyson Fury was never wrong on these Dosser's and posers.

The difference between AJ and Fury is that Fury knows he ain't shit but tries to be a bit better every day, it's a fight through Christ who saves. AJ tried to hide he ain't shit but when the pressure is on him, he bitches out like the little bitch he is!

Shit, even Wilder took his ass kicking from Fury like a man.

Why is Joshua held to a higher standard than any other fighter ?

Look at how the media heavily criticize Lewis Hamilton, but other Formula 1 drivers can act like a complete mess.

People may wonder why I'm not just blatantly coming out and saying things bluntly. I don't think I need to. Everyone know's why AJ's getting sh*t for his behaviour in the ring straight after the fight........ but I'm not gonna go there.

I have seen on social media people stating that Joshua's mask slipped. Again this proves that he is held to a higher standard.

I actually agree with you on this. Don’t get me wrong, 2 wrongs don’t make a right and AJ’s behaviour was wrong.
But Fury can come out with all sorts of shit in and out of the ring and nobody criticises him.
I’m not saying it’s racist, because Chisora also churns out shit and gets a pass.
However, if you’re answer to that was “yeah but Chisora gets a pass because he’s nobody.” I wouldn’t argue the point.
And I really don’t want to light the touch paper, but it’s almost like guys like AJ, Hamilton and Mayweather are accepted by the masses until they get too successful. And that is the worst type of racism if that is the case.

There is a difference between talking shit before a fight, which Fury does. There is also another thing to whine after a fight as if you were entitled to win and then shit on the guy that kicked your ass.