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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    i found youtube's usual nonsense interesting on this video

    I get very little information from YouTube, Facebook, Twitter... or any other social media platform, for that matter.

    THAT'S where my skepticism jumps in... as I often question the motives and intelligence of those spreading those "news."

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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

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    i found youtube's usual nonsense interesting on this video

    I get very little information from YouTube, Facebook, Twitter... or any other social media platform, for that matter.

    THAT'S where my skepticism jumps in... as I often question the motives and intelligence of those spreading those "news."
    Honest question: where DO you get it from then?

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    i found youtube's usual nonsense interesting on this video

    I get very little information from YouTube, Facebook, Twitter... or any other social media platform, for that matter.

    THAT'S where my skepticism jumps in... as I often question the motives and intelligence of those spreading those "news."
    Honest question: where DO you get it from then?

    Well... I realize YouTube is chockfull of educated scholars who perform all the necessary checks when putting out a story... but for my taste, I'd rather stick with unbiased, un-slanted, respected news media. You know... the type that existed before social media.

    Facebook and Twitter... ditto.

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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...mlin-collapse/

    "Covid misinformation spikes in wake of Damar Hamlin’s on-field collapse"



    They must be slipping. This wave should've been almost immediate.

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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Can it be just an NFL football player that suffered a traumatic blow to the chest and went into cardiac arrest?
    Does it honestly matter anymore, as regardless of what medical professionals and actual Doctors rule...it won't matter. That's not the question or determination being fished at or danced around by people yelling "Tha jAb dUnn'it" before it was even known if the poor kid was literally dead or alive once transported last night. If he was vaccinated well that's determination of "cause" enough. Current America. Saw it elsewhere right off by more than a few. God forbid we ask anything crazy like family history, previous injuries. This merry go round never ends.

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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

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    Dunno. Sounds like speculative spam pop up horseshat from exactly the place you'd expect it from. It's like magic

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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

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    Can it be just an NFL football player that suffered a traumatic blow to the chest and went into cardiac arrest?
    it could just be that exactly but could it not also possibly be something else?

    At this point I'll take the story presented as true... until something to the contrary pops up (AND IS SUBSTANTIATED).

    As you know, I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories... nor do I leap at the first hint of one.

    The human suffering of my fellow man gives me no joy... and I normally don't go looking around for conspiracy theories to whet my appetite.

    Priorities.

    Right now the only important thing is that Hamlin fully recovers and goes home to his family.
    it's your right to believe whatever you like. neither of us will ever know the truth because we won't be able to verify the cause ourselves. information will be provided & you & i will take that on board. it won't be us verifying the claims as true. where was the conspiracy theory in my question? i asked if the cause could be possibly something else. where is the leaping in my question? where is the joy in my question? what does the man's health have to do with my reply to your question about possible causes? different topics

    Am I accusing you of any of the above? No... right? So let's just be ourselves and choose to use the information given as we see fit.

    The purpose of this thread was to inform those unfamiliar with the NFL about a tragic event in last night's Monday Night Football game. Nothing more.
    you introduced all of the above in response to my question if other causes could be a possibility. you may not be accusing me but you are distracting from my question that you chose to reply to. the purpose of your thread does not dictate how other members have to reply. yes it was tragic, let's hope the real cause was from nothing nefarious & just an unfortunate incident & let's hope these incidents don't become more prevalent
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

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    i found youtube's usual nonsense interesting on this video

    I get very little information from YouTube, Facebook, Twitter... or any other social media platform, for that matter.

    THAT'S where my skepticism jumps in... as I often question the motives and intelligence of those spreading those "news."
    the screenshot was not about information. youtube likes to play with the numbers
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    well that's determination of "cause" enough.
    only problem i have with this is that is exactly how some danced & yelled that "covid dunn'it" based on a failed pcr test when the cause of death was not known if it was with covid or from covid. whatever it was people were believing convid was

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    God forbid we ask anything crazy like family history, previous injuries. This merry go round never ends.
    yes other possibilities yeh? i can think of several other possibilities of cause the top of my head
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Are we seeing more of these heart attacks now? There have been numerous footballers that have had a attack and had to retire because of heart issues nowadays.
    that's a good question to ask. well done. to me there certainly seems to be a lot of what i would consider young & generally healthy people having health issues in recent times. i have already mention a friend of mine that had a heart attack not that long ago & i personally know three other guys all under forty that have had heart issues recently & several other people who i had previously considered to be in good health, who are now a lot more ill & unhealthier than they have ever been. now the causes of this unhealthiness in supposedly young, healthy people could be numerous but it is something to keep an eye on. from my own experience i will add that my health is probably the best it's ever been

    how have you verified their claims to be true? can you please provide your processes so i can verify them as true for myself? i'm not saying it is not a possibility but i am not just going to believe secondhand information, so i'll wait for the processes you have verified to be true that support your statement of damning evidence, unless you want to admit you are just believing something
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
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    well that's determination of "cause" enough.
    only problem i have with this is that is exactly how some danced & yelled that "covid dunn'it" based on a failed pcr test when the cause of death was not known if it was with covid or from covid. whatever it was people were believing convid was

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    God forbid we ask anything crazy like family history, previous injuries. This merry go round never ends.
    yes other possibilities yeh? i can think of several other possibilities of cause the top of my head

    how have you verified their claims to be false? can you please provide your processes so i can verify them as false for myself? i'm not saying it is not a possibility but i am not just going to believe secondhand information, so i'll wait for the processes you have verified to be false that support your statement of damning evidence, unless you want to admit you are just believing something
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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

    What's everyone opinion of this:.

    https://academic.oup.com/ehjcr/artic...tab054/6154461

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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

    https://www.npr.org/2023/01/04/11468...r-resuscitated

    "Damar Hamlin had to be resuscitated a second time, his uncle says"



    "After suffering a cardiac arrest midgame on Monday, Buffalo Bills safety Damar Hamlin remains in critical condition, sedated and on a ventilator, according to an update from his uncle.

    The 24-year-old is being treated in the intensive care unit at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center after a seemingly routine tackle caused his heart to stop beating. First responders administered CPR on the field to resuscitate Hamlin in front of his distraught teammates and millions of fans.

    Early Wednesday morning, his uncle, Dorrian Glenn, told reporters in several televised interviews that doctors restarted Hamlin's heart for a second time when he got to the hospital.

    "I'm just glad he's still alive and able to fight," Glenn told CNN. "I just want to show my gratitude to the medical staff that were on hand. If it were not for them, my nephew probably wouldn't even be here."

    Hamlin is now on a ventilator, lying facedown on a hospital bed to keep pressure off his damaged lungs, Glenn said. Doctors are aiming to get him breathing on his own, but will continue "taking it day by day."

    Overall, his uncle said, it appears that Hamlin's health is "trending upwards in a positive way."

    Glenn traveled 300 miles to be with the second-year NFL player and his immediate family early Tuesday morning, he told CBS. He'd been watching the game at home in Pittsburgh when his nephew collapsed on-field.

    "I'm not a crier, but I've never cried so hard in my life," Glenn said of watching those uncertain moments unfold on a screen. "Just to know my nephew basically died on the field and they brought him back to life. It's just heart-breaking. To see all those grown men crying and the emotion ... man, it really was a gut punch."

    Glenn added that he believed in "the power of prayer" and was thankful for the support that millions of people have shown Hamlin.

    Late Tuesday night, all 32 NFL teams changed their social media profile pictures to show Hamlin's #3 jersey with the text "Pray for Damar."

    The NFL said Tuesday that the tragic Bills-Bengals game, which was postponed with six minutes left in the first quarter, will not be resumed this week. The organization has yet to decide whether to continue the match-up later on."




    So basically Hamlin is still in critical condition, but overall his status is slowly trending upward.

    That is the only thing that matters at this point. Wild conjectures about the cause are pointless and frankly only damaging at this point. But that doesn't stop people from doing it.

    The NFL has its hands full right now, as it desperately tries to balance the sensitivity of Hamlin's injuries with the remainder of the season and the looming playoffs.

    I'd hate to be in those front offices (NFL) during these times. They're bound to get criticized no matter what they decide.

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    Default Re: NFL player Damar Hamlin collapses during game; suffers cardiac arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    i found youtube's usual nonsense interesting on this video

    I get very little information from YouTube, Facebook, Twitter... or any other social media platform, for that matter.

    THAT'S where my skepticism jumps in... as I often question the motives and intelligence of those spreading those "news."
    Honest question: where DO you get it from then?

    Well... I realize YouTube is chockfull of educated scholars who perform all the necessary checks when putting out a story... but for my taste, I'd rather stick with unbiased, un-slanted, respected news media. You know... the type that existed before social media.
    you mean like the alleged operation mockingbird cia infiltrated media?
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TIC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Are we seeing more of these heart attacks now? There have been numerous footballers that have had a attack and had to retire because of heart issues nowadays.
    that's a good question to ask. well done. to me there certainly seems to be a lot of what i would consider young & generally healthy people having health issues in recent times. i have already mention a friend of mine that had a heart attack not that long ago & i personally know three other guys all under forty that have had heart issues recently & several other people who i had previously considered to be in good health, who are now a lot more ill & unhealthier than they have ever been. now the causes of this unhealthiness in supposedly young, healthy people could be numerous but it is something to keep an eye on. from my own experience i will add that my health is probably the best it's ever been

    how have you verified their claims to be true? can you please provide your processes so i can verify them as true for myself? i'm not saying it is not a possibility but i am not just going to believe secondhand information, so i'll wait for the processes you have verified to be true that support your statement of damning evidence, unless you want to admit you are just believing something
    you still don't understand burden of proof larry
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